block question(s)

deadbeat · March 31st, 2010, 11:53 PM

Hi im new here. i have a 99 gt and turns out i have a rod knock. i was origanally going to buy a forged shortblock but have recently been deciding against spending that much money when i dont plan on doing too many mods to this car its more of a daily driver. So im thinking about taking the block out of a wrecked car with low miles. has anyone ever done this? are all the 4.6 2v blocks interchangable? thanks for any help

2001gt · April 1st, 2010, 01:13 AM

i havent done it but i know for the most part that all the blocks are interchangable the only difference in the 4.6 2v years are the heads. they had non pi heads and pi head (pi pefromance improved heads) i think it start in 99 with the pi heads but everything else should swap over.

deadbeat · April 1st, 2010, 03:50 AM

Yeah i knew that. so i can basically take it from any 4.6 and just put my heads on it and everything else?

JerseyTrueBlue · April 1st, 2010, 03:53 AM

You have a windsor block in your 99, late 01-04 are romeo blocks, not much difference besides the fact of the windsor being a bit tougher, having a 8 bolt flywheel, and 13 bolt valve covers. The romeo has an 6 bolt flywheel and 11 bolt valve cover I believe. Where are you located? I have a romeo block I could let you have and I'll sell the top end for the infamous "PI" swap lol.

JerseyTrueBlue · April 1st, 2010, 03:54 AM

Yeah, I'm pretty sure everything is interchangable.

2001gt · April 1st, 2010, 06:21 AM

the only thing is to make sure you get the right valve covers for the heads you use i would go with a romeo block you can find parts easier b/c they made more of them and i believe the romeo black has more iron in the block

deadbeat · April 1st, 2010, 01:42 PM

I plan on using my heads. i thought they started the pi package in 1999?

JerseyTrueBlue · April 4th, 2010, 03:20 PM

They did that's what I was saying lol

ReverendDexter · April 4th, 2010, 03:27 PM

There's a company advertising brand new aluminator blocks in GRM for $650. Seemed like a freakin' STEAL to me.

liljojo4711 · April 4th, 2010, 03:32 PM

will heads off a windsor block bolt up to romeo blocks

MyCarPwns84 · April 6th, 2010, 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by JerseyTrueBlue

You have a windsor block in your 99, late 01-04 are romeo blocks, not much difference besides the fact of the windsor being a bit tougher, having a 8 bolt flywheel, and 13 bolt valve covers. The romeo has an 6 bolt flywheel and 11 bolt valve cover I believe.

I have an 2002 GT and according to my VIN it's a windsor block.

casper gt · April 6th, 2010, 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by MyCarPwns84

I have an 2002 GT and according to my VIN it's a windsor block.

the VIN doesn't say which block it is, just that is a 4.6

HRV6STANG · April 6th, 2010, 12:37 AM

^ Yea dude...

MyCarPwns84 · April 6th, 2010, 01:07 AM

oh well, for some reason I read something about 8position in vin and engine. Oh yeah found it was looking for replacement flywheel and clutch as mine is going. In the footnotes on FRPP site it reads

"4.6L engines may have 6 or 8 bolts to attach to the crankshaft. Check the engine code before ordering. Romeo built engines have 6 bolts and Windsor built engines have 8 bolts. All Cobra engines have 8 bolts. The 8th character in the VIN is (X) for Windsor engine plant or (W) for Romeo engine plant.

M-6375-G46

casper gt · April 6th, 2010, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by MyCarPwns84

oh well, for some reason I read something about 8position in vin and engine. Oh yeah found it was looking for replacement flywheel and clutch as mine is going. In the footnotes on FRPP site it reads

"4.6L engines may have 6 or 8 bolts to attach to the crankshaft. Check the engine code before ordering. Romeo built engines have 6 bolts and Windsor built engines have 8 bolts. All Cobra engines have 8 bolts. The 8th character in the VIN is (X) for Windsor engine plant or (W) for Romeo engine plant.

M-6375-G46

pretty easy to figure out, who many bolts did you end up having & whats the vin.

MyCarPwns84 · April 6th, 2010, 01:27 AM

haven't ordered parts yet, not sure on how many bolts on crank.

World Manufacturer Identifier - 1st, 2nd, 3rd Positions
VIN Code: 1FA
Assembly Country: UNITED STATES
Make: Ford
Body Style: Coupe

Restraint System Type (Passenger Cars) or Brake Type and GVWR Class (Trucks and Vans) - 4th Position
VIN Code: F
Brake System: STANDARD
GVWR Class:

Line,Series Body Type - 5th, 6th, 7th Positions
VIN Code: P42
Vehicle Line: Mustang
Series: GT
Vehicle Type: Passenger Car

Engine Type - 8th Position
VIN Code: X
Engine: 4.6 L
Cylinders: 8
Fuel: Gasoline

Model Year - 10th Position
VIN Code: 2
Model Year: 2002

Assembly Plant - 11th Position
VIN Code: F
Assembly Plant: DEARBORN, MICHIGAN

Production Sequence Number - 12th - 17th
VIN Code: 184156
Prod Sequence Number 184156

Additional Information
Wheel Axles Wheelbase 202.6

suprajay79 · April 6th, 2010, 01:29 AM

I'm almost 100% certain that all 2002s came with Romeos, along with six-bolt flywheels.

MyCarPwns84 · April 6th, 2010, 01:43 AM

I don't know how my vin shows an X engine type but made in Michigan. I know Romeos were made in Michigan, as opposed to Windsors in Ontario. I'll check the cam covers tomorrow during the day and see if it's 11 or 14bolts.

MyCarPwns84 · April 6th, 2010, 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by suprajay79

I'm almost 100% certain that all 2002s came with Romeos, along with six-bolt flywheels.

I would hope this is the case and that the FRPP site is wrong about the W and X engine types. But now I'm not sure what I have as far as engine type.

casper gt · April 6th, 2010, 01:49 AM

Originally Posted by MyCarPwns84

I don't know how my vin shows an X engine type but made in Michigan. I know Romeos were made in Michigan, as opposed to Windsors in Ontario. I'll check the cam covers tomorrow during the day and see if it's 11 or 14bolts.

that'll be the easiest.

March 31st, 2010, 11:53 PM	#1
deadbeat Newbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 reviews	block question(s) Hi im new here. i have a 99 gt and turns out i have a rod knock. i was origanally going to buy a forged shortblock but have recently been deciding against spending that much money when i dont plan on doing too many mods to this car its more of a daily driver. So im thinking about taking the block out of a wrecked car with low miles. has anyone ever done this? are all the 4.6 2v blocks interchangable? thanks for any help

April 1st, 2010, 03:53 AM	#4
JerseyTrueBlue Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,857 iTrader: 3 reviews	You have a windsor block in your 99, late 01-04 are romeo blocks, not much difference besides the fact of the windsor being a bit tougher, having a 8 bolt flywheel, and 13 bolt valve covers. The romeo has an 6 bolt flywheel and 11 bolt valve cover I believe. Where are you located? I have a romeo block I could let you have and I'll sell the top end for the infamous "PI" swap lol. __________________ True Blue Crew Member #2 315's Crew Member (Dat azz) 255/298 Founder of the please leave my signature alone, I want it to say what I put there and don't appreciate you deleting it club

April 1st, 2010, 03:54 AM	#5
JerseyTrueBlue Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,857 iTrader: 3 reviews	Yeah, I'm pretty sure everything is interchangable. __________________ True Blue Crew Member #2 315's Crew Member (Dat azz) 255/298 Founder of the please leave my signature alone, I want it to say what I put there and don't appreciate you deleting it club

April 4th, 2010, 03:20 PM	#8
JerseyTrueBlue Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,857 iTrader: 3 reviews	They did that's what I was saying lol __________________ True Blue Crew Member #2 315's Crew Member (Dat azz) 255/298 Founder of the please leave my signature alone, I want it to say what I put there and don't appreciate you deleting it club

April 4th, 2010, 03:27 PM	#9
ReverendDexter Priest of the Car Gods Clapped-out '90 GT 'vert ~5.5 seconds off TTOD :( Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 13,808 iTrader: 0 reviews	There's a company advertising brand new aluminator blocks in GRM for $650. Seemed like a freakin' STEAL to me. __________________ O o /¯/______________________ \|BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! \_\

April 1st, 2010, 01:13 AM	#2
2001gt Regular 2001 mustang gt Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: gulfport, ms Posts: 102 iTrader: 0 reviews	i havent done it but i know for the most part that all the blocks are interchangable the only difference in the 4.6 2v years are the heads. they had non pi heads and pi head (pi pefromance improved heads) i think it start in 99 with the pi heads but everything else should swap over.

April 1st, 2010, 03:50 AM	#3
deadbeat Newbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yeah i knew that. so i can basically take it from any 4.6 and just put my heads on it and everything else?

April 1st, 2010, 06:21 AM	#6
2001gt Regular 2001 mustang gt Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: gulfport, ms Posts: 102 iTrader: 0 reviews	the only thing is to make sure you get the right valve covers for the heads you use i would go with a romeo block you can find parts easier b/c they made more of them and i believe the romeo black has more iron in the block

April 1st, 2010, 01:42 PM	#7
deadbeat Newbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 reviews	I plan on using my heads. i thought they started the pi package in 1999?

April 6th, 2010, 12:37 AM	#13
HRV6STANG Hardcore Enthusiast 01 V6/95 Chevy 1500 Tang...IDK/Rado...........Slow as a Turtle Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Behind Obama Posts: 1,912 iTrader: 0 reviews	^ Yea dude... __________________ Co-Owner Hooker Trade industry FX4 CREW Crew Member #4 Say Bye to McMustang5.0 http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...mcmustang.html

April 6th, 2010, 01:07 AM	#14
MyCarPwns84 Regular 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SC Posts: 142 iTrader: 0 reviews	oh well, for some reason I read something about 8position in vin and engine. Oh yeah found it was looking for replacement flywheel and clutch as mine is going. In the footnotes on FRPP site it reads "4.6L engines may have 6 or 8 bolts to attach to the crankshaft. Check the engine code before ordering. Romeo built engines have 6 bolts and Windsor built engines have 8 bolts. All Cobra engines have 8 bolts. The 8th character in the VIN is (X) for Windsor engine plant or (W) for Romeo engine plant. M-6375-G46 __________________ Check out the My Garage for updated list of my current parts. OEF 2010-2011 Afghanistan Veteran Last edited by MyCarPwns84; April 6th, 2010 at 01:09 AM. Reason: adding link to FRPP Site

April 6th, 2010, 01:27 AM	#16
MyCarPwns84 Regular 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SC Posts: 142 iTrader: 0 reviews	haven't ordered parts yet, not sure on how many bolts on crank. World Manufacturer Identifier - 1st, 2nd, 3rd Positions VIN Code: 1FA Assembly Country: UNITED STATES Make: Ford Body Style: Coupe Restraint System Type (Passenger Cars) or Brake Type and GVWR Class (Trucks and Vans) - 4th Position VIN Code: F Brake System: STANDARD GVWR Class: Line,Series Body Type - 5th, 6th, 7th Positions VIN Code: P42 Vehicle Line: Mustang Series: GT Vehicle Type: Passenger Car Engine Type - 8th Position VIN Code: X Engine: 4.6 L Cylinders: 8 Fuel: Gasoline Model Year - 10th Position VIN Code: 2 Model Year: 2002 Assembly Plant - 11th Position VIN Code: F Assembly Plant: DEARBORN, MICHIGAN Production Sequence Number - 12th - 17th VIN Code: 184156 Prod Sequence Number 184156 Additional Information Wheel Axles Wheelbase 202.6 __________________ Check out the My Garage for updated list of my current parts. OEF 2010-2011 Afghanistan Veteran Last edited by MyCarPwns84; April 6th, 2010 at 01:50 AM.

April 6th, 2010, 01:43 AM	#18
MyCarPwns84 Regular 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SC Posts: 142 iTrader: 0 reviews	I don't know how my vin shows an X engine type but made in Michigan. I know Romeos were made in Michigan, as opposed to Windsors in Ontario. I'll check the cam covers tomorrow during the day and see if it's 11 or 14bolts. __________________ Check out the My Garage for updated list of my current parts. OEF 2010-2011 Afghanistan Veteran

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