Spoiler delete fail

slikirish · April 2nd, 2010, 07:36 PM

Ok so it wasn't fail on my end. I went and got the nylon plugs, color matched duplicolor, clear silicone, ect. Painted the plugs and they looked pretty good. Went outside and pulled the spoiler off and this is what i find. WTF?

The bottom hole in the second pic also looks a little elongated. I'm not sure what to make of this but I'm not happy.
Needless to say the spoiler went back on.

93HatchsBFF · April 2nd, 2010, 07:40 PM

mine had scuff marks from my spoiler when i took it off so i painted it black and put black cobras on my DARK green stang looks good

ajm · April 2nd, 2010, 07:46 PM

Its normal....Especially if its been repainted. I see/used to see this shit day to day on various "lower end" cars..not sure if it has to do with the adhesive, paint, or paint process used. Havent seem to notice it much with the bwm's though

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01MGGT · April 2nd, 2010, 07:52 PM

At least you could cover that back up. I had stupid body side moldings on my car and removing them removed parts of the paint. Touched it up for now but now my doors need repainted

AngryVanilla · April 2nd, 2010, 08:32 PM

Yeah thats what mine looked like when i tried to take my wing off... Really disappointing cause i was hoping i could just plug the holes...

Jaygt · April 2nd, 2010, 08:45 PM

Time for a saleen wing and that sucks sorry

ajm · April 2nd, 2010, 08:48 PM

Better than finding out its a bondo buggy/mud buggy though so no worries. Just leave the damn spoiler on anyways. Removing it wont make you any faster, and the average person you see on the street wont even notice the difference.

HRV6STANG · April 2nd, 2010, 08:51 PM

Bondo and Paint..

ajm · April 2nd, 2010, 08:52 PM

^

youve gotta be shitting me right?

The places where the paint peeled up will feather out just fine. Needs nothing more than feathered out, and some primer. As for the holes slapping some "bondo" in them wont do jack shit but crack out and/or leave you rings where the holes were not long down the road.

HRV6STANG · April 2nd, 2010, 08:54 PM

I t will fill in the holes wont it??

ajm · April 2nd, 2010, 08:55 PM

Absolutely not.

1. there is no backing to the holes
2. you wont get filler flush with something else thats flush and flexible....even if there was a backing...given the decklid flexes if you spread your filler, block it, then press on the decklid itll crack out right around the hole

HRV6STANG · April 2nd, 2010, 08:55 PM

Oh..wel my shop teacher who has a degree lied...

ajm · April 2nd, 2010, 08:58 PM

Good for him...A degree in what? Teaching hs shop class? Sounds like a joke. School for this business = a joke only upside to going to one of the big name schools which I wont mention is getting I-CAR certifications out the ass (i-car platnium requires 10 points and 2 points a year after that iirc)...youll come outta school with 40+ icar points at least vs paying $400+ per I-CAR class if you were in a shop, or the shop footing that bill.....but once again that dont mean jack shit of if you dont know what youre doing.

There is a way to fill the holes but "filling them with bondo" is far from the process of doing so.

BakerFX4 · April 2nd, 2010, 08:59 PM

yeah your teacher with a degree is dumb because you cant just throw bodo in that big ass hole and hope it stays. It will flex and the trunk will be slammed. There will be shrinkage and there will be rings if nothing else!! Your teacher with a degree is teaching more people his wrong shit. I have seen these "school taught bodymen" and they dont know SHIT! My dad has had about 5 of the "certificate having/degree having" bodymen and they were they biggest waste of time.

BakerFX4 · April 2nd, 2010, 09:01 PM

my biggest advice to you would be take the money you are paying for a school and actually pay a REAL bodyman at a shop to have him let you work beside him and learn real life stuff in a real life body shop.

HRV6STANG · April 2nd, 2010, 09:13 PM

I'm in HS not an Institute or college...Free Education..

BakerFX4 · April 2nd, 2010, 09:37 PM

oh... well then if you have a teacher that is teaching body work in high school then trust me... Dont take anything he says serious! lol. Tell him to call me or ajm if he is really interested in fixing anything.

ajm · April 2nd, 2010, 09:38 PM

Thats exactly your problem....As said above "A degree in what? Teaching hs shop class? Sounds like a joke." This guy prolly hasnt even stepped foot in a hack shop for the matter of a few weeks more less a real production shop.

Nothing against the guy...but a simple hs shop class teacher shouldnt be telling you to fill through and through holes with filler. More less flush holes on flexible material. Unless you consider high spots to make it wont show the crack rings straight? Let me guess...he tells you to hit it with 1500 before filler and 3000 trizact on an interface pad before putty right?

HRV6STANG · April 2nd, 2010, 09:41 PM

Lolz^ I am also in VoTech but not for Autobody...For Automotive and those guys now what ther doing

ajm · April 2nd, 2010, 09:45 PM

ok

thats why the told you doing what suggested was ok....did the automotive guys teach you how to calculate valve overlap as well?

April 2nd, 2010, 07:36 PM	#1
slikirish Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 5spd Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wooster, OH Posts: 2,679 iTrader: 0 reviews	Spoiler delete fail Ok so it wasn't fail on my end. I went and got the nylon plugs, color matched duplicolor, clear silicone, ect. Painted the plugs and they looked pretty good. Went outside and pulled the spoiler off and this is what i find. WTF? The bottom hole in the second pic also looks a little elongated. I'm not sure what to make of this but I'm not happy. Needless to say the spoiler went back on. __________________ Mods in Garage

April 2nd, 2010, 07:40 PM	#2
93HatchsBFF Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 LX 12.60 at 109mph Join Date: May 2008 Location: Obamastan, AZ Posts: 1,254 iTrader: 0 reviews	mine had scuff marks from my spoiler when i took it off so i painted it black and put black cobras on my DARK green stang looks good __________________ 1989 LX mustang, 5speed, 108,xxx miles, Mac Longtubes, BBK midpipe, Paxton Novi 1000 6psi, Crappy FMU with 19lb injectors, 373 gears soon to come 30lb injectors, Blow through MAF, intercooler and tune

April 2nd, 2010, 07:52 PM	#4
01MGGT Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alamogordo NM Holloman AFB Posts: 1,200 iTrader: 0 reviews	At least you could cover that back up. I had stupid body side moldings on my car and removing them removed parts of the paint. Touched it up for now but now my doors need repainted __________________ 375hp 380tq Vortech v1 7.5 psi CMS stg1 Cams 75mm TB/Plenum Flows O/R X AFM MrFreeze Meth Steeda Springs Sniper vids http://www.youtube.com/user/01mggt Mineral Grey Club member #14 Military Crew E-4 Predator Crew Chief Holloman

April 2nd, 2010, 08:32 PM	#5
AngryVanilla Regular Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Katy/Houston, TX Posts: 106 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yeah thats what mine looked like when i tried to take my wing off... Really disappointing cause i was hoping i could just plug the holes... __________________ 2004 Mustang GT 5sp <---- Red Headed Slut Mods: See Garage

April 2nd, 2010, 08:51 PM	#8
HRV6STANG Hardcore Enthusiast 01 V6/95 Chevy 1500 Tang...IDK/Rado...........Slow as a Turtle Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Behind Obama Posts: 1,912 iTrader: 0 reviews	Bondo and Paint.. __________________ Co-Owner Hooker Trade industry FX4 CREW Crew Member #4 Say Bye to McMustang5.0 http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...mcmustang.html

April 2nd, 2010, 07:46 PM	#3
ajm Banned Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 7,966 iTrader: 4 reviews	Its normal....Especially if its been repainted. I see/used to see this shit day to day on various "lower end" cars..not sure if it has to do with the adhesive, paint, or paint process used. Havent seem to notice it much with the bwm's though .

April 2nd, 2010, 08:45 PM	#6
Jaygt Regular 2002 mustang gt Na Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tolland ct Posts: 81 iTrader: 0 reviews	Time for a saleen wing and that sucks sorry

April 2nd, 2010, 08:48 PM	#7
ajm Banned Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 7,966 iTrader: 4 reviews	Better than finding out its a bondo buggy/mud buggy though so no worries. Just leave the damn spoiler on anyways. Removing it wont make you any faster, and the average person you see on the street wont even notice the difference.

April 2nd, 2010, 08:52 PM	#9
ajm Banned Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 7,966 iTrader: 4 reviews	^ youve gotta be shitting me right? The places where the paint peeled up will feather out just fine. Needs nothing more than feathered out, and some primer. As for the holes slapping some "bondo" in them wont do jack shit but crack out and/or leave you rings where the holes were not long down the road.

April 2nd, 2010, 08:54 PM	#10
HRV6STANG Hardcore Enthusiast 01 V6/95 Chevy 1500 Tang...IDK/Rado...........Slow as a Turtle Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Behind Obama Posts: 1,912 iTrader: 0 reviews	I t will fill in the holes wont it?? __________________ Co-Owner Hooker Trade industry FX4 CREW Crew Member #4 Say Bye to McMustang5.0 http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...mcmustang.html

April 2nd, 2010, 08:55 PM	#11
ajm Banned Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 7,966 iTrader: 4 reviews	Absolutely not. 1. there is no backing to the holes 2. you wont get filler flush with something else thats flush and flexible....even if there was a backing...given the decklid flexes if you spread your filler, block it, then press on the decklid itll crack out right around the hole

April 2nd, 2010, 08:58 PM	#13
ajm Banned Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 7,966 iTrader: 4 reviews	Good for him...A degree in what? Teaching hs shop class? Sounds like a joke. School for this business = a joke only upside to going to one of the big name schools which I wont mention is getting I-CAR certifications out the ass (i-car platnium requires 10 points and 2 points a year after that iirc)...youll come outta school with 40+ icar points at least vs paying $400+ per I-CAR class if you were in a shop, or the shop footing that bill.....but once again that dont mean jack shit of if you dont know what youre doing. There is a way to fill the holes but "filling them with bondo" is far from the process of doing so. Last edited by ajm; April 2nd, 2010 at 09:09 PM.

April 2nd, 2010, 08:59 PM	#14
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,250 iTrader: 14 reviews	yeah your teacher with a degree is dumb because you cant just throw bodo in that big ass hole and hope it stays. It will flex and the trunk will be slammed. There will be shrinkage and there will be rings if nothing else!! Your teacher with a degree is teaching more people his wrong shit. I have seen these "school taught bodymen" and they dont know SHIT! My dad has had about 5 of the "certificate having/degree having" bodymen and they were they biggest waste of time. __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

April 2nd, 2010, 09:01 PM	#15
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,250 iTrader: 14 reviews	my biggest advice to you would be take the money you are paying for a school and actually pay a REAL bodyman at a shop to have him let you work beside him and learn real life stuff in a real life body shop. __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

April 2nd, 2010, 09:13 PM	#16
HRV6STANG Hardcore Enthusiast 01 V6/95 Chevy 1500 Tang...IDK/Rado...........Slow as a Turtle Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Behind Obama Posts: 1,912 iTrader: 0 reviews	I'm in HS not an Institute or college...Free Education.. __________________ Co-Owner Hooker Trade industry FX4 CREW Crew Member #4 Say Bye to McMustang5.0 http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...mcmustang.html

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April 2nd, 2010, 09:37 PM	#17
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,250 iTrader: 14 reviews	oh... well then if you have a teacher that is teaching body work in high school then trust me... Dont take anything he says serious! lol. Tell him to call me or ajm if he is really interested in fixing anything. __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

April 2nd, 2010, 09:38 PM	#18
ajm Banned Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 7,966 iTrader: 4 reviews	Thats exactly your problem....As said above "A degree in what? Teaching hs shop class? Sounds like a joke." This guy prolly hasnt even stepped foot in a hack shop for the matter of a few weeks more less a real production shop. Nothing against the guy...but a simple hs shop class teacher shouldnt be telling you to fill through and through holes with filler. More less flush holes on flexible material. Unless you consider high spots to make it wont show the crack rings straight? Let me guess...he tells you to hit it with 1500 before filler and 3000 trizact on an interface pad before putty right? Last edited by ajm; April 2nd, 2010 at 09:44 PM.

April 2nd, 2010, 09:41 PM	#19
HRV6STANG Hardcore Enthusiast 01 V6/95 Chevy 1500 Tang...IDK/Rado...........Slow as a Turtle Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Behind Obama Posts: 1,912 iTrader: 0 reviews	Lolz^ I am also in VoTech but not for Autobody...For Automotive and those guys now what ther doing __________________ Co-Owner Hooker Trade industry FX4 CREW Crew Member #4 Say Bye to McMustang5.0 http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...mcmustang.html

April 2nd, 2010, 09:45 PM	#20
ajm Banned Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 7,966 iTrader: 4 reviews	ok thats why the told you doing what suggested was ok....did the automotive guys teach you how to calculate valve overlap as well?

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