Mods..lowering or chassis stiffening first?

jranaudo · April 5th, 2010, 02:30 PM

So I am setting out on making my mustang a road racer and have a list of mods in mind. I want to split it up into stages due to costs. Which one will give me the most benefit first?

fyi. I have a 2004 mach 1 with 25k miles.

Option #1 - lowering

Spings
Struts & Shocks
Spring Isolators
Caster & Camber Plates
Swaybar Bushings
Swaybar Endlinks

Option #2 - chassis ridgity & advanced suspenion parts

Full Length subframe connectors
strut tower brace
panhard bar
Upper and lower rear control arms
Optional: K member brace
Optional: front control arm bushings

Ryguy33 · April 5th, 2010, 02:36 PM

option 1 will. but u really dont need to replace your ios's with onyl 25k miles on your car.

jake1191 · April 5th, 2010, 02:37 PM

I would lower the car before chassis stiffening because you will feel much more of a difference than with chassis stiffening. Plus if you lower the car is loses some weight or it stays the same vs. adding weight with parts that wont make a ton of noticeable difference.

Ryguy33 · April 5th, 2010, 02:38 PM

on your option 1 i would take out the iso's and sway bar components and put subframes in there

Scott2001GT · April 5th, 2010, 02:42 PM

wait until Jazzer, TGR, or Mod97 get in here

jranaudo · April 5th, 2010, 03:03 PM

uh oh. on the spring iso's I just figured since we are in their might as well do them. Only issue with swapping sway bar with SFC's is price I suppose.

joker636 · April 5th, 2010, 03:06 PM

jazzer is the all know suspension mod guy he is the one to talk to for sure

ForestGRN_Ghost · April 5th, 2010, 03:19 PM

- springs
-shocks, stuts
-FLSFC
-LCA

my .02

goren813 · April 5th, 2010, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by ForestGRN_Ghost

- springs
-shocks, stuts
-FLSFC
-LCA
+C/C Plates

my .02

There ya go. The sway bars and endlinks really you won't want to mess with unless you think the car over or under steers right now. Take some time to figure out how you want the car to respond differently if at all. I'd look into the list above, LCA's being last of that list.

ForestGRN_Ghost · April 5th, 2010, 03:24 PM

i forgot to add cc plates in there

03_StangGuy · April 5th, 2010, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by ForestGRN_Ghost

- springs
-shocks, stuts
-FLSFC
-LCA

+C/C PLATES

my .02

Im them! At 25k, you bushings are still good. no need to replace them. Spend the money where you notice it right now.

Scott2001GT · April 5th, 2010, 03:31 PM

i think Full Length Subframes first..then go from there

ReverendDexter · April 5th, 2010, 03:54 PM

Option #1 plus SFCs, minus the swaybar crap

Jazzer The Cat · April 5th, 2010, 04:48 PM

^ agreed

Jazzer

PS. I would bail on the ISO's as well.

mell0 · April 5th, 2010, 05:03 PM

yep, i would also have to agree with these guys. i just re did my suspension (springs, shocks, struts, LCAs, CC plates and it's downright amazing. I'm having some FLSFCs welded in in may to finish it off.

PowerShiftz02GT · April 5th, 2010, 06:12 PM

Option 1. You'll get performance and looks.

.............

I have a Strut tower brace for sale if you want it in the classifieds. 60.00 shipped. Let me know if interested.

joker636 · April 5th, 2010, 06:19 PM

how do you know the dif. between flsfc and not flsfc?

jranaudo · April 5th, 2010, 08:55 PM

Thanks guys! Just gotta price it out now. I'll probably change my wheels and tires for my second stage. woohoo! can't wait!

ReverendDexter · April 5th, 2010, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by joker636

how do you know the dif. between flsfc and not flsfc?

Length, lol.

Full length go all the way from the torque box in the rear to where the subframe curves up in front

Honestly, I'm not even sure if anyone sells anything besides full-length anymore as there's no real point to it.

joker636 · April 5th, 2010, 09:58 PM

i have the full length ones then lol thanks again.

April 5th, 2010, 02:37 PM	#3
jake1191 Regular 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Effort, PA Posts: 401 iTrader: 1 reviews	I would lower the car before chassis stiffening because you will feel much more of a difference than with chassis stiffening. Plus if you lower the car is loses some weight or it stays the same vs. adding weight with parts that wont make a ton of noticeable difference. __________________ Did you know there's over 435,000 tobacca an' alcohol related deaths last year? You know how many people marijuana killed? One. One dumbass who tried to hackysack a tarantula... -Rusty, from Squidbillies

April 5th, 2010, 02:38 PM	#4
Ryguy33 Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang Gt 3 seconds......flat Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: L.A. , California Posts: 1,916 iTrader: 1 reviews	on your option 1 i would take out the iso's and sway bar components and put subframes in there __________________ Mods = stuff to make me take corner faster

April 5th, 2010, 02:42 PM	#5
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	wait until Jazzer, TGR, or Mod97 get in here __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

April 5th, 2010, 03:06 PM	#7
joker636 Regular 95 Mustang GT 8.90 1/8thmile Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: all over Posts: 156 iTrader: 0 reviews	jazzer is the all know suspension mod guy he is the one to talk to for sure __________________ HEADMAN XPIPE MSD DIST. COIL PACK COLD AIRINTAKE SFC'S SHORTTHROW. STOCK EVERYTHING ELSE THE TRUTH

April 5th, 2010, 03:19 PM	#8
ForestGRN_Ghost Enthusiast 99 mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: spokane Posts: 992 iTrader: 0 reviews	- springs -shocks, stuts -FLSFC -LCA my .02 __________________

April 5th, 2010, 02:30 PM	#1
jranaudo Newbie Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 20 iTrader: 0 reviews	Mods..lowering or chassis stiffening first? So I am setting out on making my mustang a road racer and have a list of mods in mind. I want to split it up into stages due to costs. Which one will give me the most benefit first? fyi. I have a 2004 mach 1 with 25k miles. Option #1 - lowering Spings Struts & Shocks Spring Isolators Caster & Camber Plates Swaybar Bushings Swaybar Endlinks Option #2 - chassis ridgity & advanced suspenion parts Full Length subframe connectors strut tower brace panhard bar Upper and lower rear control arms Optional: K member brace Optional: front control arm bushings

April 5th, 2010, 02:36 PM	#2
Ryguy33 Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang Gt 3 seconds......flat Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: L.A. , California Posts: 1,916 iTrader: 1 reviews	option 1 will. but u really dont need to replace your ios's with onyl 25k miles on your car. __________________ Mods = stuff to make me take corner faster

April 5th, 2010, 03:03 PM	#6
jranaudo Newbie Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 20 iTrader: 0 reviews	uh oh. on the spring iso's I just figured since we are in their might as well do them. Only issue with swapping sway bar with SFC's is price I suppose.

April 5th, 2010, 03:24 PM	#10
ForestGRN_Ghost Enthusiast 99 mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: spokane Posts: 992 iTrader: 0 reviews	i forgot to add cc plates in there __________________

April 5th, 2010, 03:31 PM	#12
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	i think Full Length Subframes first..then go from there __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

April 5th, 2010, 03:54 PM	#13
ReverendDexter Priest of the Car Gods Clapped-out '90 GT 'vert ~5.5 seconds off TTOD :( Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 13,808 iTrader: 0 reviews	Option #1 plus SFCs, minus the swaybar crap __________________ O o /¯/______________________ \|BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! \_\

April 5th, 2010, 05:03 PM	#15
mell0 Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Procharged GT, STR 12.503 @ 113.08 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Boxford, MA Posts: 1,873 iTrader: 0 reviews	yep, i would also have to agree with these guys. i just re did my suspension (springs, shocks, struts, LCAs, CC plates and it's downright amazing. I'm having some FLSFCs welded in in may to finish it off. __________________ 2002 Procharged GT 12.503 @ 113.08 351rwhp 353rwtq Car Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/mell00ut5?feature=mhee

April 5th, 2010, 06:12 PM	#16
PowerShiftz02GT MM Fanatic 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,204 iTrader: 13 reviews	Option 1. You'll get performance and looks. ............. I have a Strut tower brace for sale if you want it in the classifieds. 60.00 shipped. Let me know if interested. __________________

April 5th, 2010, 06:19 PM	#17
joker636 Regular 95 Mustang GT 8.90 1/8thmile Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: all over Posts: 156 iTrader: 0 reviews	how do you know the dif. between flsfc and not flsfc? __________________ HEADMAN XPIPE MSD DIST. COIL PACK COLD AIRINTAKE SFC'S SHORTTHROW. STOCK EVERYTHING ELSE THE TRUTH

April 5th, 2010, 08:55 PM	#18
jranaudo Newbie Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 20 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks guys! Just gotta price it out now. I'll probably change my wheels and tires for my second stage. woohoo! can't wait!

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April 5th, 2010, 09:58 PM	#20
joker636 Regular 95 Mustang GT 8.90 1/8thmile Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: all over Posts: 156 iTrader: 0 reviews	i have the full length ones then lol thanks again. __________________ HEADMAN XPIPE MSD DIST. COIL PACK COLD AIRINTAKE SFC'S SHORTTHROW. STOCK EVERYTHING ELSE THE TRUTH

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