Two belts shredded

BakerFX4 · April 11th, 2010, 10:18 PM

*goes to look at belt im running*

BakerFX4 · April 11th, 2010, 10:22 PM

ill have to get the numbers tomorrow. Cant seem them in the garage. Shit is too dark. lol

Scott2001GT · April 11th, 2010, 10:24 PM

lol ok man. What about that tab?

BakerFX4 · April 11th, 2010, 10:25 PM

what are you saying again about the tab?

Scott2001GT · April 11th, 2010, 10:26 PM

on some of the tensioner i read there is a tab to be grinded off

BakerFX4 · April 11th, 2010, 10:27 PM

just went and looked and even if my belt was 3" smaller, there is not tab or anything that would be in the way. We MAY have different style idlers from windsor to romeo. Not sure though.

Scott2001GT · April 11th, 2010, 10:29 PM

thats what I read. The 01 were different!

Scott2001GT · April 11th, 2010, 10:29 PM

Procharger Belt Install

BakerFX4 · April 11th, 2010, 10:29 PM

i still dont think thats your problem. I would put a belt on and turn it over a few times or just let it run for 30 seconds or whatever to get the belt running where it is going to run and then just check it all out. SOMEWHERE, you will find SOMETHING out of align!

In your 2nd pic, i notice that it looks a lil off if you try to look at blower pulley, alt pulley, and water pump pulley but it may just be due to the angle of the pic. If you hover over the blower you will be able to tell if its straight or not. If it is, then id move to the 2 idlers.

BakerFX4 · April 11th, 2010, 10:31 PM

well thats something you will have to check on site to see if it is causing the problem. This type thing is an on site ordeal. Wish you were near! lol.

Never knew that idler issue. Id check into it more now after reading that.

Scott2001GT · April 11th, 2010, 10:33 PM

yeah man. I'll call Procarger tomorrow for sure!

tbirdscwd · April 12th, 2010, 01:27 AM

I had to run a washer between the timing cover and the blower bracket on the lower bolt and stud of my procharger setup to basically shim the blower to line up correctly. I shredded 2 belts before I figure this out and corrected the angle. Every car is different and will need different amounts of shimming in order to properly line up the blower pulley with the rest of the system.

Note: The blower pulley only needs to be very slightly mis-aligned to shed the hell out of some belts.

RyanGT · April 12th, 2010, 02:11 AM

Yeah somethings out of wack. My expensive ass kit from KB didn't align right either. And the tab is to get the belt tighter if you grind it off. Makes it easier to put belt on... but your problem is alignment not belt tightness. Something is either rubbing, or out of alignment so it jumps a rib then shreds it.

Scott2001GT · April 12th, 2010, 11:51 AM

Well I looked at my blower idle and it is CROOKED! I was like shit! lol. And it's hard to eye ball the blower to the idle! Is there some secret besides the "eye balling" trick. I mean yeah I can shim it but if I cant tell if it's aligned there isn't a point.

Thanks dudes...but I still need to figure this out!

RyanGT · April 12th, 2010, 12:51 PM

Look at the belt angle, if it is at all twisted. If the idlers are off then it is pretty obvious. But if it is subtly off then look if the belt is angled or twisted at all. Thats how i found my problem. I have shredded 2 belts for not being aligned, and one because the belt wasn't tight enough and jumped a rib (was probably when it wasn't completely dialed in alignment too).

So get a small flat edge and see if you can find a twisted angle on the belt. If it is not eye ball able

Scott2001GT · April 12th, 2010, 01:00 PM

ahh this sucks! lol I just want to drive it! I got a new belt. Same size, the one I need anyways. idk when We will get to it. Maybe weds. I want someone to check it over before I drive it

Scott2001GT · April 13th, 2010, 06:13 PM

FUCK! I worked on the blower today and I had the pulleys aligned(to what I could see) but the idler was crooked so I got that right and then the blower pulley hit the alt housing! SOB idk anymore dudes

April 11th, 2010, 10:18 PM	#21
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,250 iTrader: 14 reviews	goes to look at belt im running __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

April 11th, 2010, 10:22 PM	#22
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,250 iTrader: 14 reviews	ill have to get the numbers tomorrow. Cant seem them in the garage. Shit is too dark. lol __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

April 11th, 2010, 10:24 PM	#23
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	lol ok man. What about that tab? __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

April 11th, 2010, 10:25 PM	#24
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,250 iTrader: 14 reviews	what are you saying again about the tab? __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

April 11th, 2010, 10:26 PM	#25
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	on some of the tensioner i read there is a tab to be grinded off __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

April 11th, 2010, 10:27 PM	#26
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,250 iTrader: 14 reviews	just went and looked and even if my belt was 3" smaller, there is not tab or anything that would be in the way. We MAY have different style idlers from windsor to romeo. Not sure though. __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

April 11th, 2010, 10:29 PM	#27
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	thats what I read. The 01 were different! __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

April 11th, 2010, 10:29 PM	#28
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	Procharger Belt Install __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

April 11th, 2010, 10:31 PM	#30
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,250 iTrader: 14 reviews	well thats something you will have to check on site to see if it is causing the problem. This type thing is an on site ordeal. Wish you were near! lol. Never knew that idler issue. Id check into it more now after reading that. __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

April 11th, 2010, 10:33 PM	#31
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	yeah man. I'll call Procarger tomorrow for sure! __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

April 12th, 2010, 01:27 AM	#32
tbirdscwd MM Fanatic 2004 Mustang GT 12.88 @ 109.45 N/A Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Davis, CA Posts: 3,417 iTrader: -1 reviews	I had to run a washer between the timing cover and the blower bracket on the lower bolt and stud of my procharger setup to basically shim the blower to line up correctly. I shredded 2 belts before I figure this out and corrected the angle. Every car is different and will need different amounts of shimming in order to properly line up the blower pulley with the rest of the system. Note: The blower pulley only needs to be very slightly mis-aligned to shed the hell out of some belts. __________________ Fun: 2004 Mustang GT DD: 1994 Ram 2500 Cummins 4x4 Borla "Stinger" Exhaust Vids

April 12th, 2010, 02:11 AM	#33
RyanGT MM Fanatic 2000 GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lynnwood, Washington Posts: 4,258 iTrader: 4 reviews	Yeah somethings out of wack. My expensive ass kit from KB didn't align right either. And the tab is to get the belt tighter if you grind it off. Makes it easier to put belt on... but your problem is alignment not belt tightness. Something is either rubbing, or out of alignment so it jumps a rib then shreds it. __________________ 2000 Black convertible GT: KB 15psi, and other goodies... 1971 Datsun 240 z: Header and rebuilt motor. (The DD)

April 12th, 2010, 11:51 AM	#34
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	Well I looked at my blower idle and it is CROOKED! I was like shit! lol. And it's hard to eye ball the blower to the idle! Is there some secret besides the "eye balling" trick. I mean yeah I can shim it but if I cant tell if it's aligned there isn't a point. Thanks dudes...but I still need to figure this out! __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

April 12th, 2010, 12:51 PM	#35
RyanGT MM Fanatic 2000 GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lynnwood, Washington Posts: 4,258 iTrader: 4 reviews	Look at the belt angle, if it is at all twisted. If the idlers are off then it is pretty obvious. But if it is subtly off then look if the belt is angled or twisted at all. Thats how i found my problem. I have shredded 2 belts for not being aligned, and one because the belt wasn't tight enough and jumped a rib (was probably when it wasn't completely dialed in alignment too). So get a small flat edge and see if you can find a twisted angle on the belt. If it is not eye ball able __________________ 2000 Black convertible GT: KB 15psi, and other goodies... 1971 Datsun 240 z: Header and rebuilt motor. (The DD)

April 12th, 2010, 01:00 PM	#36
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	ahh this sucks! lol I just want to drive it! I got a new belt. Same size, the one I need anyways. idk when We will get to it. Maybe weds. I want someone to check it over before I drive it __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

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Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	FUCK! I worked on the blower today and I had the pulleys aligned(to what I could see) but the idler was crooked so I got that right and then the blower pulley hit the alt housing! SOB idk anymore dudes __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

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