Doesn't quite sound like a deal...

schoff · April 20th, 2010, 03:22 PM

Alright, can you guys check this link for me, i'm starting to make some more summer plans, to throw a few more bolt-ons if i can get ahold of some money.... would you recommend this at all? Recommendations....

1996-2004 Mustang GT 4.6L Power Package (+30 HP)

On AM -C&L plenum kit on is 140
-The Steeda underdrive kit is 200
-The BBK is....? Cant find it. haha

And no i'm not expecting all 30 hp haha

Shaun03GT · April 20th, 2010, 03:26 PM

Yea maybe 30hp at the motor with a dyno tune. But thats being generous.

I would buy a C&L Plenum...good results on those. I bought a cheap MAC 70mm throttle body for like $120. Steeda u/d pulleys = fail

dcook_14 · April 20th, 2010, 03:28 PM

The throttle body is like $215 new so yeah you're saving a little money. But it's $500 for like 15 hp... $500 and you're like 1/3 of the way towards a SC kit

schoff · April 20th, 2010, 03:30 PM

What website did you buy your TB off of? How much hp did you (if you know) get from the plenum and TB combo? I hear so many different opinions about the u/d pulleys i dont even know what to believe anymore. Ha

dcook_14 · April 20th, 2010, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by Shaun03GT

Steeda u/d pulleys = fail

5.0 magazine just tested a bunch of bolt ons and udp's were the best bang for the buck between them, CAI, and catback... so not really a fail. I think it was like 8rwhp on the 3v. You're not going to see that much rwhp from many other bolt ons

dcook_14 · April 20th, 2010, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by schoff

What website did you buy your TB off of? How much hp did you (if you know) get from the plenum and TB combo? I hear so many different opinions about the u/d pulleys i dont even know what to believe anymore. Ha

Just bum around the classifieds for a while until you find a tb/plenum. I stated above what I've seen out of UDPs

Shaun03GT · April 20th, 2010, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by dcook_14

5.0 magazine just tested a bunch of bolt ons and udp's were the best bang for the buck between them, CAI, and catback... so not really a fail. I think it was like 8rwhp on the 3v. You're not going to see that much rwhp from many other bolt ons

A catback barley does anything for hp..more for sound. And 8rwhp on a 3V I can believe that, but our cars are 2V's. 3V and 4V flow a lot better than our heads.

U/d pulleys arent a compelte fail, I just wouldnt spend $200 on something you wount even notice.

I bought my throttle body off of I think it was Ninosport.com

Im not sure on my exact gains from the TB/Plenum combo, but I dyno'd pretty high for my mods n/a

261rwhp/284rwtq 4.10's (takes away hp at high rpm) Mac o/r Prochamber, SLP LM1 Catback, K&N FIPK II Intake, Mac 70mm TB, C&L Plenum, dyno tuned

schoff · April 20th, 2010, 03:34 PM

Huh well that is promising then... this summer i gotta get a new bumper, wanna get some lowering springs, and id like to get a bolt on or two. Just not really sure what to get, cause that new bumper plus paint is gonna rape me. Ha

Shaun03GT · April 20th, 2010, 03:37 PM

You need to free up ur intake. Your exhaust is all done. You have stock intake besides the elbow. Get a bigger throttle body and plenum for sure.

schoff · April 20th, 2010, 03:39 PM

Based on what i got, do you think 75mm would be pointless and i should just go with 70mm?

Shaun03GT · April 20th, 2010, 03:44 PM

Not pointless but the rule of thumb is 70mm N/A and 75mm FI. Im supercharged and running a 70mm TB...so how bout you buy a 75mm, and we trade? lol

schoff · April 20th, 2010, 03:53 PM

....im gonna have to pass on your idea. haha as good as it sounds...haha

Effff im just tempted to go ahead and guy that kid, cause i've been wanting u/d pullies and you recommend the TB/plenum combo. This is going to be an expensive summer.

Shaun03GT · April 20th, 2010, 03:58 PM

Lol figured Id try, well good luck man...if you have the money and want the stuff there, then do it.

dcook_14 · April 20th, 2010, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by Shaun03GT

A catback barley does anything for hp..more for sound. And 8rwhp on a 3V I can believe that, but our cars are 2V's. 3V and 4V flow a lot better than our heads.

U/d pulleys arent a compelte fail, I just wouldnt spend $200 on something you wount even notice.

UDPs don't have anything to do with increasing flow, so it's not really going to make much of a difference what heads are on it.

I think pretty much all bolt ons are a giant waste of money. The part that I highlighted above can go for every single bolt on by itself. No bolt on is going to give you more than 5-8 rwhp but cost $200-$500... What's the point?

sharkbait · April 20th, 2010, 11:36 PM

500 for a nitrous kit, and you can have 100 hp

or 500 for 15 hp top end

Scott2001GT · April 21st, 2010, 12:40 AM

from what I HEAR 200 bucks are better spent on SFC than a bolt on

dcook_14 · April 21st, 2010, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Scott2001GT

from what I HEAR 200 bucks are better spent on SFC than a bolt on

+1 Chassis and suspension work will go a hell of a lot futher than bolt ons, and the cost is just about the same

schoff · April 21st, 2010, 01:55 PM

What kind of suspension work do you recommend? I'm gonna lower my car probably half inch this summer, but obviously that's not gonna do anything really. Since you say suspension is about the same as the bolt ons, what do you recomment?

dcook_14 · April 21st, 2010, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by schoff

What kind of suspension work do you recommend? I'm gonna lower my car probably half inch this summer, but obviously that's not gonna do anything really. Since you say suspension is about the same as the bolt ons, what do you recomment?

Do you want drag or twisty suggestions?

JerseyTrueBlue · April 21st, 2010, 04:29 PM

So I guess 75mm gives more torque huh? Only 6 less horsepower then shaun but almost 15ft-lbs of torque!

April 20th, 2010, 03:22 PM	#1
schoff Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Independence, Missouri Posts: 1,386 iTrader: 0 reviews	Doesn't quite sound like a deal... Alright, can you guys check this link for me, i'm starting to make some more summer plans, to throw a few more bolt-ons if i can get ahold of some money.... would you recommend this at all? Recommendations.... 1996-2004 Mustang GT 4.6L Power Package (+30 HP) On AM -C&L plenum kit on is 140 -The Steeda underdrive kit is 200 -The BBK is....? Cant find it. haha And no i'm not expecting all 30 hp haha __________________

April 20th, 2010, 03:26 PM	#2
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,441 iTrader: 12 reviews	Yea maybe 30hp at the motor with a dyno tune. But thats being generous. I would buy a C&L Plenum...good results on those. I bought a cheap MAC 70mm throttle body for like $120. Steeda u/d pulleys = fail __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

April 20th, 2010, 03:28 PM	#3
dcook_14 Banned 2004 Mustang GT 12.35@114.08 w/ 1.88 60' Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Waterloo, IA Posts: 7,015 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 7 reviews	The throttle body is like $215 new so yeah you're saving a little money. But it's $500 for like 15 hp... $500 and you're like 1/3 of the way towards a SC kit __________________ Do the Right Thing, Cook. ~Zip.

April 20th, 2010, 03:30 PM	#4
schoff Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Independence, Missouri Posts: 1,386 iTrader: 0 reviews	What website did you buy your TB off of? How much hp did you (if you know) get from the plenum and TB combo? I hear so many different opinions about the u/d pulleys i dont even know what to believe anymore. Ha __________________

April 20th, 2010, 03:34 PM	#8
schoff Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Independence, Missouri Posts: 1,386 iTrader: 0 reviews	Huh well that is promising then... this summer i gotta get a new bumper, wanna get some lowering springs, and id like to get a bolt on or two. Just not really sure what to get, cause that new bumper plus paint is gonna rape me. Ha __________________

April 20th, 2010, 03:37 PM	#9
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,441 iTrader: 12 reviews	You need to free up ur intake. Your exhaust is all done. You have stock intake besides the elbow. Get a bigger throttle body and plenum for sure. __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

April 20th, 2010, 03:39 PM	#10
schoff Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Independence, Missouri Posts: 1,386 iTrader: 0 reviews	Based on what i got, do you think 75mm would be pointless and i should just go with 70mm? __________________

April 20th, 2010, 03:44 PM	#11
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,441 iTrader: 12 reviews	Not pointless but the rule of thumb is 70mm N/A and 75mm FI. Im supercharged and running a 70mm TB...so how bout you buy a 75mm, and we trade? lol __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

April 20th, 2010, 03:53 PM	#12
schoff Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Independence, Missouri Posts: 1,386 iTrader: 0 reviews	....im gonna have to pass on your idea. haha as good as it sounds...haha Effff im just tempted to go ahead and guy that kid, cause i've been wanting u/d pullies and you recommend the TB/plenum combo. This is going to be an expensive summer. __________________

April 20th, 2010, 03:58 PM	#13
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,441 iTrader: 12 reviews	Lol figured Id try, well good luck man...if you have the money and want the stuff there, then do it. __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

April 20th, 2010, 11:36 PM	#15
sharkbait Hooo Ha Ha 1997 Mustang GT 11.65 @ 115 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pasadena MD Posts: 9,743 iTrader: 10 reviews	500 for a nitrous kit, and you can have 100 hp or 500 for 15 hp top end __________________ 410rwhp 520rwtq @ 12.9 psi

April 21st, 2010, 12:40 AM	#16
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	from what I HEAR 200 bucks are better spent on SFC than a bolt on __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

April 21st, 2010, 01:55 PM	#18
schoff Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Independence, Missouri Posts: 1,386 iTrader: 0 reviews	What kind of suspension work do you recommend? I'm gonna lower my car probably half inch this summer, but obviously that's not gonna do anything really. Since you say suspension is about the same as the bolt ons, what do you recomment? __________________

April 21st, 2010, 04:29 PM	#20
JerseyTrueBlue Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,857 iTrader: 3 reviews	So I guess 75mm gives more torque huh? Only 6 less horsepower then shaun but almost 15ft-lbs of torque! __________________ True Blue Crew Member #2 315's Crew Member (Dat azz) 255/298 Founder of the please leave my signature alone, I want it to say what I put there and don't appreciate you deleting it club

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