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Old May 13th, 2010, 11:03 PM   #1
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Got the vortech kit and need to get some gauges now.
I got an Auto meter ultra lite air/fuel gauge from a friend , of course im getting boost and i think im going oil pressure over fuel pressure (unless convinced otherwise). now...

---should i go cheap and get glowshift?
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---a little higher and get prosports (have sweet digital gauges)
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or ---stick with a trusted brand like autometer and have them all match and save the money from not buying a air/fuel?
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Is it a wideband a/f? If not you'll need a wideband.

Get fuel pressure. If your fuel pressure goes down then you will be able to see that and shut the motor down before it goes lean. You already have a dummy gauge for oil pressure, granted it's a dummy gauge but at least it's something. I'd be more worried about the fuel system failing since you had to go in there and swap pumps and things like that, rather than an oiling system that has been working just fine.

Doesn't really matter what gauges you get. If you're cheap then get cheaper gauges, if you want them to actually look nice then get Autometers
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Boost, wideband A/F and water temp gauge would be my choice.
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You've already got a gauge for water temp though.
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Originally Posted by dcook_14 View Post
You've already got a gauge for water temp though.
And we have an "idiot" oil pressure gauge too if that is what you are referring to.

I wouldn't remotely trust them for diddly squat.
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And we have an "idiot" oil pressure gauge too if that is what you are referring to.

I wouldn't remotely trust them for diddly squat.
Yeah I already said that it's a dummy oil pressure gauge. And I already posted the reason why I think fuel pressure is more important to monitor than oil pressure. The fuel system has been modified and there is a greater chance of something failing, hence I would want to monitor it. The oil system has been fine for this many miles so I wouldn't feel like I needed to monitor it vs. fuel pressure
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narrow band... i don't really see the point of getting a wide band if I'm getting it professionally tuned the a/f shouldn't go haywire after that... right? those wide bands are so expensive

and i will be drilling a hole into the oil pan for the supercharger. i was contemplating fuel or oil... could always do both and run 4 gauges.
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narrow band... i don't really see the point of getting a wide band if I'm getting it professionally tuned the a/f shouldn't go haywire after that... right? those wide bands are so expensive

and i will be drilling a hole into the oil pan for the supercharger. i was contemplating fuel or oil... could always do both and run 4 gauges.
You need a wideband. Even if it's professionally tuned and running great, you might have a component failure and lean out. If you don't know you're leaning it out you'll have a blown engine to deal with. Widebands are expensive, but are cheap insurance against a blown motor. Modding cars is not cheap, and it usually only gets more expensive the deeper into it you go

I'm all for running lots of gauges. Hell get a triple pillar pod and a dual cluster pod and run 5 gauges. It's not ricey if you need all of them.
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I think a wideband is good for fuel issues too.
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hmm... well im looking into the dual gauge bezel pod and possibly clock pod. since i have a convertible
what about this a/f gauge
Digital Air Fuel Ratio Gauge
it says it can display both wide and narrow but what else would i need to get in order to view the wide band some sort of 02 sensor signal?
and is there more hardware required when using electrical over mechanical? new to this whole gauge dealio.
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hmm... well im looking into the dual gauge bezel pod and possibly clock pod. since i have a convertible
what about this a/f gauge
Digital Air Fuel Ratio Gauge
it says it can display both wide and narrow but what else would i need to get in order to view the wide band some sort of 02 sensor signal?
and is there more hardware required when using electrical over mechanical? new to this whole gauge dealio.
You need a whole kit with the wideband. There is a link to the kits at the bottom of the page that you linked to. Check out thistricktuners.com link. Joe is a member one here (Joe @ Trick Tuners) and sells some nice stuff.

Always go mechanical if you can when picking gauges. A lot simpler to hook up and less chance of failure. Plus they are usually a lot cheaper
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think ive settled on prosport gauges. going green/white to match my green interior lighting. boost and fuel pressure most likely with a gauge bezel and steering column bezel ill run those two by the gauges and a wide band on the steering column since it wont match the other two because i think I'm going to go innovate for it if not then I'm sticking with prosport wide band kit.
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I've not found a fuel pressure gage to be very useful on our returnless fuel system. On a cool day at idle it reads 30, cruising it reads 33, all of the rest of the time its jumping up and down with the throttle movement. In general it reads 40 - vac/2 or 40 + boost. On hot days it will read as high as 50 at idle as the computer increases the fuel pressure to prevent a vapor lock. At the point in time that you might catch a lean condition, 5000+ rpms, you don't have time to look at the fuel gage. Of course, if the fuel pressure dropped to 20 psi you would then know you had a problem.

The boost/vac gage is interesting. After you've gotten used to the power, it reminds you that your supercharger is still working. Still it will read vacuum almost all the time. You can use it to improve your fuel economy. Just keep the vacuum at 10 or higher when you accelerate.
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hmm thanks for the input very interesting, i also figured the wide band would show me if i had any fuel issues so i was hesitant to get a fuel pressure gauge. at the same time i have a dummy oil pressure gauge and a lot say don't bother with this one...
so im stuck... oil pressure, fuel pressure, or something else??? any suggestions?
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Assuming that you're putting your Vortech on a stock motor, you really don't need any gages. That said I think every supercharged Mustang should get at least two to separate it from its naturally aspirated cousins. I prefer the instrument cluster bezel to hold them because it looks built in. I would suggest a boost/vac gage and a wideband.
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The boost/vac gage is interesting. After you've gotten used to the power, it reminds you that your supercharger is still working. Still it will read vacuum almost all the time. You can use it to improve your fuel economy. Just keep the boost at 10 or higher when you accelerate.
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holy crap idk if ill be even running that much boost haha.
just called my tuner and i think im sticking with innovate wideband and a prosport boost gauge possibly digital to match the digital wideband i have.
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I'd really do the mechanical boost gauge if I were you. Run a line from a T'd vacuum line on the engine to your gauge, then hook the power wire up to your headlight power, and ground it. Done, simple. If something is wrong with way the gauge reads, you know it's the gauge and not a screwed up installation.
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