Small Body Work Re Clearing

dannyboy281 · May 17th, 2010, 04:39 PM

well one of the workers here at work sratched my LT quarter panel with the rear bumper on one of the utilit trucks and i dont know if he is going to pay for the damages i can remove the paint that was left on top of the clear coat with my PC 7424 and some M105 that i have...but then the clear coat was completely scraped off on a small area would i be able to wet sand it and then re clear that area then wet sand it again and polish it with fine polish would this work or will i be able to notice the area that was repaired just asking to seeif its worth repairing by myself or just taking it in because its going to run me $325.00 i want it to look go not crappy so before i attempt anything i wanted to ask everyones thoughts ill post a pic later...my main concern is that its the clear coat its going to start to peel now that its exposed

dcook_14 · May 17th, 2010, 04:55 PM

As long as just the clear was scraped off you can sand and re-clear that one spot, nothing wrong with that. I'd make that guy pay for it to be taken to a shop though

dannyboy281 · May 17th, 2010, 05:08 PM

thanks man that what im trying to do but im hoping he will pay for that damages the problem is i work for my uncles business and the damage was done in a company truck and i dont want to file a claim and make his premium go up so im hoping the guy will pay for it

BakerFX4 · May 17th, 2010, 05:15 PM

hell naw man. Im going to tell you straight up... dont try it. Its not "that easy" to blend a panel like that. Alot of pro painters cant even blend with a blending agent and make it so that you CAN NOT TELL!

Trust me... you will hate yourself for doing it and then the shop is going to charge more to redo it to make it right. If for some reason you are in the need to try this yourself, clear the entire panel.

Im not trying to doubt you or your talents. Just trying to save you some time and money. Its not as easy as just clear it and water sand it out and buff that spot in the quarter. You will need to melt it in with a blending agent and so forth. Its not easy and like i said, some pro painters at shop wont even attempt a blend like that.

BakerFX4 · May 17th, 2010, 05:17 PM

if im not enough to stop you from doing it, talk to ajm and im positive he will agree with me. Seems to be the only other bodyman on the forum

dannyboy281 · May 17th, 2010, 05:22 PM

^ man thanks alot baker i was hoping you would step in here im just going to take it in to get fixed man the right way like you said plus i dont have the skills to do it so im not even going to attempt it especially because i just invested over $500 in paint correction items to get it looking great which i still havent done because im going to take the front and rear bumper to have them repainted factory black by a friends friend who has a reputable body shop and does good work who wont cut corners he is the one who quoted me on the qt panel ill just have him do it all at the same time i want my stang looking good not shitty

dannyboy281 · May 17th, 2010, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by BakerFX4

if im not enough to stop you from doing it, talk to ajm and im positive he will agree with me. Seems to be the only other bodyman on the forum

oh i believe you 100% that why i was hoping i get a response from you or ajm thanks again i really appreciate your help

dcook_14 · May 17th, 2010, 05:26 PM

IDK I've talked to my brother in law who does awesome body work and he said they do spot repairs all the time.

BakerFX4 · May 17th, 2010, 05:27 PM

good decision man.. I PROMISE! Ive seen alot of shops "try" to spot it like that and it just ends up looking like hell. They try to correct it by sanding it out and buffing but it ends up leaving a ring because they did a shitty job of carrying out their scuffing and a shitty job of trying to melt it in with the blending agent. Then on top of that, the blending agent is VERY thin so its SOOO easy to make it run, and to sum it up.... there is going to be a mess!

Ill say this... I have done it but if i can in ANY WAY throw it to my dad to do, i will! even the shop you take it to will probably clear the entire panel. Their are certain times and areas to blend and in the middle of the quarter is just not one of them. Corners of a front bumper are usually the main areas that are blended. A big flat panel does NOT need to be blended on. Just clear the entire panel.

BakerFX4 · May 17th, 2010, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by dcook_14

IDK I've talked to my brother in law who does awesome body work and he said they do spot repairs all the time.

You can. But there are certain times, areas, and colors that it should be done on. Center of a panel is not where a blend needs to be done. Then if the car is black... Good luck. I GUARANTEE i could walk up and tell you exactly where they made a blend if it was black/dark color and/or in the middle of a large panel (door, quarter)

And we too do them all the time, but there are times to do it. You can end up creating more work for yourself by sanding/buffing a large panel when you can just finish out clearing the panel and be done with it and have a MUCH cleaner job

BakerFX4 · May 17th, 2010, 05:36 PM

look at my sig pic..... pretend i have a big scrape right below the ambers on my cobra bumper. I wouldnt want to clear the entire bumper as that is too much material for nothing. I would fix my area where the scrape is and scuff to about the inside of my fog hole from top to bottom of bumper.

Then i would put my silver base where i made the repair. Then clear the area until about the outside of the fog hole from top to bottom of bumper. Then spray/mist the blending agent from edge of clear to where my scuffing ended. This melts/thins it out so that the clear and previous clear melts in together as one. Then after it dried, do my sanding and buffing to clean it up.

Of course there are small things but i just wanted to give you an idea with an example to explain how its done. Now, i wouldnt do that on my hood because the blend area would be so large and i would want a nicer job since the hood is a MAIN focus point.

Did this help at all?

dannyboy281 · May 17th, 2010, 05:36 PM

yeah he said he would have to re clear the entire panel again so that it look good and yeah that a great example i learned something new today

BakerFX4 · May 17th, 2010, 05:37 PM

^there you go! lol

*bows*

dcook_14 · May 17th, 2010, 05:47 PM

*kicks baker in the crotch*

JK Baker. I've never done spot repairs like this myself. The only stuff I've done is complete paint jobs and panel re-sprays so I didn't know the ins and outs of all the blending agents and stuff like that.
Thanks for schooling us

BakerFX4 · May 17th, 2010, 05:54 PM

lol.. no prob. Yeah i didnt just want to say "dont do it" and leave you with no reasoning or explanation as to why i suggested such.

dcook_14 · May 18th, 2010, 10:18 AM

Lol, I love when people just say "No"

weems · May 18th, 2010, 10:20 AM

Your posts hurt my head.

dannyboy281 · May 18th, 2010, 12:51 PM

^ sorry man dont mean for them too is it my grammar or how long they are ill try to correct it if its my grammar

dcook_14 · May 18th, 2010, 01:04 PM

I think he's talking to Baker, since his post is so technical

weems · May 18th, 2010, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by dannyboy281

^ sorry man dont mean for them too is it my grammar or how long they are ill try to correct it if its my grammar

Not the grammar, just the punctuation.

Originally Posted by dcook_14

I think he's talking to Baker, since his post is so technical

Was that a snide remark? I can't tell.

May 17th, 2010, 04:39 PM	#1
dannyboy281 MM Fanatic 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 5,000 miles on the ODO Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 4,912 iTrader: 0 reviews	Small Body Work Re Clearing well one of the workers here at work sratched my LT quarter panel with the rear bumper on one of the utilit trucks and i dont know if he is going to pay for the damages i can remove the paint that was left on top of the clear coat with my PC 7424 and some M105 that i have...but then the clear coat was completely scraped off on a small area would i be able to wet sand it and then re clear that area then wet sand it again and polish it with fine polish would this work or will i be able to notice the area that was repaired just asking to seeif its worth repairing by myself or just taking it in because its going to run me $325.00 i want it to look go not crappy so before i attempt anything i wanted to ask everyones thoughts ill post a pic later...my main concern is that its the clear coat its going to start to peel now that its exposed __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 MGW, MAC Offroad X, Flowmaster Original 40's, Maganaflow 3.5" Tips, Anthracite 18x9's & 18x10's FR 500's wrapped with Nitto 555's, Eibach Pro Kit, Last edited by dannyboy281; May 17th, 2010 at 04:48 PM.

May 17th, 2010, 04:55 PM	#2
dcook_14 Banned 2004 Mustang GT 12.35@114.08 w/ 1.88 60' Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Waterloo, IA Posts: 7,015 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 7 reviews	As long as just the clear was scraped off you can sand and re-clear that one spot, nothing wrong with that. I'd make that guy pay for it to be taken to a shop though __________________ Do the Right Thing, Cook. ~Zip.

May 17th, 2010, 05:08 PM	#3
dannyboy281 MM Fanatic 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 5,000 miles on the ODO Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 4,912 iTrader: 0 reviews	thanks man that what im trying to do but im hoping he will pay for that damages the problem is i work for my uncles business and the damage was done in a company truck and i dont want to file a claim and make his premium go up so im hoping the guy will pay for it __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 MGW, MAC Offroad X, Flowmaster Original 40's, Maganaflow 3.5" Tips, Anthracite 18x9's & 18x10's FR 500's wrapped with Nitto 555's, Eibach Pro Kit,

May 17th, 2010, 05:15 PM	#4
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,251 iTrader: 14 reviews	hell naw man. Im going to tell you straight up... dont try it. Its not "that easy" to blend a panel like that. Alot of pro painters cant even blend with a blending agent and make it so that you CAN NOT TELL! Trust me... you will hate yourself for doing it and then the shop is going to charge more to redo it to make it right. If for some reason you are in the need to try this yourself, clear the entire panel. Im not trying to doubt you or your talents. Just trying to save you some time and money. Its not as easy as just clear it and water sand it out and buff that spot in the quarter. You will need to melt it in with a blending agent and so forth. Its not easy and like i said, some pro painters at shop wont even attempt a blend like that. __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

May 17th, 2010, 05:17 PM	#5
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,251 iTrader: 14 reviews	if im not enough to stop you from doing it, talk to ajm and im positive he will agree with me. Seems to be the only other bodyman on the forum __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

May 17th, 2010, 05:22 PM	#6
dannyboy281 MM Fanatic 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 5,000 miles on the ODO Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 4,912 iTrader: 0 reviews	^ man thanks alot baker i was hoping you would step in here im just going to take it in to get fixed man the right way like you said plus i dont have the skills to do it so im not even going to attempt it especially because i just invested over $500 in paint correction items to get it looking great which i still havent done because im going to take the front and rear bumper to have them repainted factory black by a friends friend who has a reputable body shop and does good work who wont cut corners he is the one who quoted me on the qt panel ill just have him do it all at the same time i want my stang looking good not shitty __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 MGW, MAC Offroad X, Flowmaster Original 40's, Maganaflow 3.5" Tips, Anthracite 18x9's & 18x10's FR 500's wrapped with Nitto 555's, Eibach Pro Kit,

May 17th, 2010, 05:26 PM	#8
dcook_14 Banned 2004 Mustang GT 12.35@114.08 w/ 1.88 60' Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Waterloo, IA Posts: 7,015 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 7 reviews	IDK I've talked to my brother in law who does awesome body work and he said they do spot repairs all the time. __________________ Do the Right Thing, Cook. ~Zip.

May 17th, 2010, 05:27 PM	#9
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,251 iTrader: 14 reviews	good decision man.. I PROMISE! Ive seen alot of shops "try" to spot it like that and it just ends up looking like hell. They try to correct it by sanding it out and buffing but it ends up leaving a ring because they did a shitty job of carrying out their scuffing and a shitty job of trying to melt it in with the blending agent. Then on top of that, the blending agent is VERY thin so its SOOO easy to make it run, and to sum it up.... there is going to be a mess! Ill say this... I have done it but if i can in ANY WAY throw it to my dad to do, i will! even the shop you take it to will probably clear the entire panel. Their are certain times and areas to blend and in the middle of the quarter is just not one of them. Corners of a front bumper are usually the main areas that are blended. A big flat panel does NOT need to be blended on. Just clear the entire panel. __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

May 17th, 2010, 05:36 PM	#11
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,251 iTrader: 14 reviews	look at my sig pic..... pretend i have a big scrape right below the ambers on my cobra bumper. I wouldnt want to clear the entire bumper as that is too much material for nothing. I would fix my area where the scrape is and scuff to about the inside of my fog hole from top to bottom of bumper. Then i would put my silver base where i made the repair. Then clear the area until about the outside of the fog hole from top to bottom of bumper. Then spray/mist the blending agent from edge of clear to where my scuffing ended. This melts/thins it out so that the clear and previous clear melts in together as one. Then after it dried, do my sanding and buffing to clean it up. Of course there are small things but i just wanted to give you an idea with an example to explain how its done. Now, i wouldnt do that on my hood because the blend area would be so large and i would want a nicer job since the hood is a MAIN focus point. Did this help at all? __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

May 17th, 2010, 05:37 PM	#13
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,251 iTrader: 14 reviews	^there you go! lol bows __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

May 17th, 2010, 05:47 PM	#14
dcook_14 Banned 2004 Mustang GT 12.35@114.08 w/ 1.88 60' Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Waterloo, IA Posts: 7,015 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 7 reviews	kicks baker in the crotch JK Baker. I've never done spot repairs like this myself. The only stuff I've done is complete paint jobs and panel re-sprays so I didn't know the ins and outs of all the blending agents and stuff like that. Thanks for schooling us __________________ Do the Right Thing, Cook. ~Zip.

May 17th, 2010, 05:54 PM	#15
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,251 iTrader: 14 reviews	lol.. no prob. Yeah i didnt just want to say "dont do it" and leave you with no reasoning or explanation as to why i suggested such. __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

May 18th, 2010, 10:18 AM	#16
dcook_14 Banned 2004 Mustang GT 12.35@114.08 w/ 1.88 60' Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Waterloo, IA Posts: 7,015 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 7 reviews	Lol, I love when people just say "No" __________________ Do the Right Thing, Cook. ~Zip.

May 18th, 2010, 10:20 AM	#17
weems Tech Exchange Head Honcho 2003 SVT Cobra 11.70 @ 121 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Forsyth/Statesboro, GA Posts: 9,176 iTrader: 3 reviews	Your posts hurt my head.

May 18th, 2010, 12:51 PM	#18
dannyboy281 MM Fanatic 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 5,000 miles on the ODO Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 4,912 iTrader: 0 reviews	^ sorry man dont mean for them too is it my grammar or how long they are ill try to correct it if its my grammar __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 MGW, MAC Offroad X, Flowmaster Original 40's, Maganaflow 3.5" Tips, Anthracite 18x9's & 18x10's FR 500's wrapped with Nitto 555's, Eibach Pro Kit,

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May 18th, 2010, 01:04 PM	#19
dcook_14 Banned 2004 Mustang GT 12.35@114.08 w/ 1.88 60' Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Waterloo, IA Posts: 7,015 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 7 reviews	I think he's talking to Baker, since his post is so technical __________________ Do the Right Thing, Cook. ~Zip.

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