Factory Paint?

Locutus · May 18th, 2010, 07:02 PM

So I started detailing my new Mach, and man, the factory SUX, at painting....There is orange peel over the entire car. Does anyone know if the factory clear, with hold up to a wetsand and buff, or is it too thin? I have an 04 DSG Mach 1.

BakerFX4 · May 18th, 2010, 07:10 PM

it will be fine. BE EASY ON THE EDGES! they are easy to cut through!

Locutus · May 19th, 2010, 12:45 AM

I was planning on having a friend that works at a body shop do it.

Shaun03GT · May 19th, 2010, 12:55 AM

From what Ive read/heard, in 2003 the paint on the Ford cars sucks. It chips really easy, and orange peels and just shitty overall. Idk if you have an 03 or 04 Mach.

But anyways, yea have ur friend do it. You want someone that knows what their doing to do that. Like Baker said Be easy on the edges.

Locutus · May 19th, 2010, 01:22 AM

It is an '04. I posted up on Mach1registry, and every one there said dont do it, it will severly weaken the paint. I just REALLY hate orange peel. I detail the car frequently, so it is very noticeable to me.

Shaun03GT · May 19th, 2010, 02:05 AM

No offense, but people on Mach1registry would rather keep their mach below 10,000 miles than anything else. Dont listen to them they suck.

Seriously one guy brags about how his Mach 1 has like 2,xxx miles on it. Like dude, you must be enjoying that car. What do you do? Go out in the garage and stare at it?

BakerFX4 · May 19th, 2010, 08:59 AM

lol... they said dont do it because what!? lol. All you are doing is sanding a SLIGHT amount off. Be sure that when you get done you go all the way around the car waxing it. after buffing it out the clear will be VERY exposed. You need to put some wax on it right when you get it back (if shop doesnt do it). You want something protecting that new finish!

Locutus · May 19th, 2010, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by BakerFX4

lol... they said dont do it because what!? lol. All you are doing is sanding a SLIGHT amount off. Be sure that when you get done you go all the way around the car waxing it. after buffing it out the clear will be VERY exposed. You need to put some wax on it right when you get it back (if shop doesnt do it). You want something protecting that new finish!

He said that wetsanding the factory paint would significantly decrease the durability.. there just isnt enough clear on the car. The sealant and wax would be applied right after. I like to detail my car (thats why the orage peel bothers me so, with a good polish, seal, and wax the OP is very visable).

dcook_14 · May 19th, 2010, 11:17 AM

Baker would it be worthwhile to scuff the car and re-clear the entire thing?

Locutus · May 19th, 2010, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by dcook_14

Baker would it be worthwhile to scuff the car and re-clear the entire thing?

That much more involved, emblems, trime, etc. Plus Mach's have those flat black decals.

dcook_14 · May 19th, 2010, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Locutus

That much more involved, emblems, trime, etc. Plus Mach's have those flat black decals.

I'm not asking for you

Shaun03GT · May 19th, 2010, 12:16 PM

lmao dcook.

Anyways, listen to Baker on that. It wont decrease the durability. Thats what they would do at detail shops anyways. My dad did it on his 03 Mach 1 because he had some orange peel, and it came out fine. Nothing wrong whatsoever

Locutus · May 19th, 2010, 12:23 PM

Thanks for the help guys. If my pait guys gives me the go ahead also, I will post up before and after pics.

Shaun03GT · May 19th, 2010, 12:29 PM

Sweet deal man. Itll look awesome.

Like I said man, try not to look for advice on Mach1 Registry. I think these are absolutley the best forums for asking questions. Thats why I have almost 2000 posts sence september of 2009

BakerFX4 · May 19th, 2010, 01:01 PM

The car has plenty clear on it. Go have it done and be

no cook, too much money to clear the car again. And it would still probably need to be sanded and buffed if he is looking for this slick as glass look.

May 18th, 2010, 07:02 PM	#1
Locutus Newbie Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 31 iTrader: 0 reviews	Factory Paint? So I started detailing my new Mach, and man, the factory SUX, at painting....There is orange peel over the entire car. Does anyone know if the factory clear, with hold up to a wetsand and buff, or is it too thin? I have an 04 DSG Mach 1.

May 18th, 2010, 07:10 PM	#2
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,251 iTrader: 14 reviews	it will be fine. BE EASY ON THE EDGES! they are easy to cut through! __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

May 19th, 2010, 12:55 AM	#4
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,441 iTrader: 12 reviews	From what Ive read/heard, in 2003 the paint on the Ford cars sucks. It chips really easy, and orange peels and just shitty overall. Idk if you have an 03 or 04 Mach. But anyways, yea have ur friend do it. You want someone that knows what their doing to do that. Like Baker said Be easy on the edges. __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

May 19th, 2010, 02:05 AM	#6
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,441 iTrader: 12 reviews	No offense, but people on Mach1registry would rather keep their mach below 10,000 miles than anything else. Dont listen to them they suck. Seriously one guy brags about how his Mach 1 has like 2,xxx miles on it. Like dude, you must be enjoying that car. What do you do? Go out in the garage and stare at it? __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

May 19th, 2010, 08:59 AM	#7
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,251 iTrader: 14 reviews	lol... they said dont do it because what!? lol. All you are doing is sanding a SLIGHT amount off. Be sure that when you get done you go all the way around the car waxing it. after buffing it out the clear will be VERY exposed. You need to put some wax on it right when you get it back (if shop doesnt do it). You want something protecting that new finish! __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

May 19th, 2010, 12:45 AM	#3
Locutus Newbie Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 31 iTrader: 0 reviews	I was planning on having a friend that works at a body shop do it.

May 19th, 2010, 01:22 AM	#5
Locutus Newbie Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 31 iTrader: 0 reviews	It is an '04. I posted up on Mach1registry, and every one there said dont do it, it will severly weaken the paint. I just REALLY hate orange peel. I detail the car frequently, so it is very noticeable to me.

May 19th, 2010, 11:17 AM	#9
dcook_14 Banned 2004 Mustang GT 12.35@114.08 w/ 1.88 60' Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Waterloo, IA Posts: 7,015 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 7 reviews	Baker would it be worthwhile to scuff the car and re-clear the entire thing? __________________ Do the Right Thing, Cook. ~Zip.

May 19th, 2010, 12:16 PM	#12
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,441 iTrader: 12 reviews	lmao dcook. Anyways, listen to Baker on that. It wont decrease the durability. Thats what they would do at detail shops anyways. My dad did it on his 03 Mach 1 because he had some orange peel, and it came out fine. Nothing wrong whatsoever __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

May 19th, 2010, 12:23 PM	#13
Locutus Newbie Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 31 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks for the help guys. If my pait guys gives me the go ahead also, I will post up before and after pics.

May 19th, 2010, 12:29 PM	#14
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,441 iTrader: 12 reviews	Sweet deal man. Itll look awesome. Like I said man, try not to look for advice on Mach1 Registry. I think these are absolutley the best forums for asking questions. Thats why I have almost 2000 posts sence september of 2009 __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

May 19th, 2010, 01:01 PM	#15
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,251 iTrader: 14 reviews	The car has plenty clear on it. Go have it done and be no cook, too much money to clear the car again. And it would still probably need to be sanded and buffed if he is looking for this slick as glass look. __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

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