[Turblow]

We are just got the car up and running from the short block upgrade we did.

The engine has Manley Rods, Cobra crank and the new J.E. SRP 2v pistons.

Stock 2v heads and intake

BBK shorty headers

Hellion Turbo kit (came with the car)

We have had 3 different turbos on the Hellion kit so far
Turbonetics 62mm
Borg Warner S300sx 66mm with the .88 a/r turbine housing
67mm Billet from Precision

On the car now is the Precision 67HPQ or 6768 as some call it. The performance of this turbo is very surprising on how fast it spools and how much power it makes. The car at 10 psi is ripping the Nitto drag radials off the pavement. It would not do that with the other 2 units we tried.

We plan on taking the car to the dyno and track over the next 2 weeks if weather is permitting.

The trans in the car is a Tremec and up for replacement soon. We are looking at trans options now. So far we have looked at the TKO500, Transzilla (Rockland Standard gear) and the ATI TH400. I would like to keep it a stick but the ATI trans is very temping.

Last but not least we are using the factory ecu and the Delta Force tuner package. The Delta Force product was pretty easy to learn with the help from Patrick over at DF.

Here is some more info on the PTE unit I found pretty exciting.

We have been reviewing one of the Precision 67HPQ T4 units. From testing so far and after taking the turbo apart and getting some measurements we can see why this units does so well.
PTE def did their home work when they came out with the New CEA Billet compressors. What you will notice when you take a look at the compressor design is that the wheel looks very aggressive. It has a small hub and light weight design and what appears to be extended tips.
After looking at the wheel for a bit I started to take some measurements. Right away I noticed an advantage the the smaller hub gave the wheel and things started to become a little more clear on what was going on with the flow numbers I heard. When I got the turbo from PTE Joe told me the turbo flowed 94lbs a min depends on housings. I was like wow those are big numbers for a 67mm unit. Well here is what I see as a very good feature of the new PTE CEA compressor design.

I measured the compressor wheel from the tip of the compressor wheel inducer to the hub (this is where the compressor nut sits) and I measured 26.2mm. I had a few other wheels sitting on my desk and I reached over to compare numbers and boy was I shocked. The wheel I picked up from my desk was the Borg Warner 67mm and the same measurement on that wheel was 22.7mm I also had a CompR wheel from Bullseye and the same tip to hub measurement on the 72mm wheel was 23.1mm.
What this means is that Precision through the CEA Competition Engineered Areo design is able to take advantage of several things one being taking weight off the wheel which allows them to do some different things with the wheel design. I noticed right away the wheel was much much lighter. Lightning the wheel allows a smaller shaft to be used and a smaller hub design. The smaller hub design allows the CEA design to grow the inducer inward instead of out word. This makes for a much larger leading edge and in this case the 67mm unit has a leading edge that measures what the competitions 70-72mm units measure and also comes very close on flow numbers.
This is huge leap forward in performance turbo design and a very out of the box way of thinking. I was very impressed with the units appearance and design, now lets talk about the performance of the unit when testing on the car.
When I installed the Turbo on the car and went for a drive to see how the car responded to the turbo change I noticed right away the turbo was very responsive so I thought I would do a back pressure log to see how the turbo fit the engine with the .68 a/r. The boost was 11.8 psi and the back pressure was 26psi, the back pressure logs showed the back pressure ratio was over 2 to 1. What was shocking is the car did not feel like it. On most, no all other turbos I have had in that situation you would feel the car loose considerable power when you got to the 2 to 1 back pressure ratio. I have seen cars loose as much as 90whp from the back pressure being that high. I was so amazed at that I had to call and talk to Dan Barlog at PTE and ask if this was normal of the PTE CEA wheel design and Mr. Barlog said yes and that once I install the larger .96 a/r housing he provided me I would notice another power gain when I got the back pressure closer to 1 to 1. I installed the .96 a/r turbine housing and the back pressure is now right at 1 to 1. The back pressure change changed spool up by only 300 rpm but made a huge power gain.
Another great feature of the Precision 67HPQ unit is-
The new ceramic dual ball bearing center section that has cooling fins cast into it and does not have any cooling lines.
Well to rap this up I will say that we were very impressed with the 67mm unit from Precision turbo and would recommend the unit to anyone who is looking for a performance edge on the competition. The 67HPQ has a few different options for the bearing structur. We tested the Ball bearing unit but it does come journal bearing also for those that have cost in mind.

Here are the hub measurements I took from each wheel.
PTE 67mm 16.5mm
BW 67mm 20.3mm
BEP 72mm 22.9mm

[Turblow]

Here is some pics of the compressor so you can see what to measure.








Here is the dyno from today at Hansen Performance in Hueytown Alabama. The car was also tuned by James Hansen.

[JayC]

I'm interested in seeing track times. Is the car set up to launch?

[Turblow]

Originally Posted by JayC I'm interested in seeing track times. Is the car set up to launch?

We plan on doing some testing at the track in Montgomery AL very soon.

I just got the dyno pic to finally show up

[mrbigjeep]

sweet

[Scott2001GT]

4r70w with a dirty dog stall

[adrenaline=lifeline]

if u want to stay manual d&d performance t56 magnum

[Turblow]

Thanks for the input guys.
Do they have a website?

[adrenaline=lifeline]

D&D Performance - BA61/62 T-56 Magnum Kit 99-04 Mustang

[mell0]

if you REALLY want to keep it stock you could go with a built t45 or t3650 (whichever you have).

you can get them from american powertrain, ready to handle a buttload of power, and you can get them for well under 2 grand.

[steweod]

I went through astroperformance . com for my T56 Mag. It came with tranny, brace, twin disk clutch w/ alum flywheel, alum drive shaft, the gears were cryro treated and repolished, and it came with a NHRA approved Quicktime Lightweight Scatter-Shield. all for $5,167.00 shipped. I had ordered my TKO 600 from D&D but these guys ended up being better on the T56 with all the extra options. So I would check them out plus their drive shafts are custom made. They will not make them till you get the tranny in the car and loaded to take the measurements.

here is who did all my stuff.
he is the president of astro
Anthony (Tony) Sarvis
(866) 253-0019 Ext.101

[JayC]

Any updates on what the car runs at the track?

[Scott2001GT]

he was on over a month ago...idk why is didn't check this

[mell0]

geez 5 grand is a lot to drop on a tranny.

[I8ACMRO]

Originally Posted by mell0 geez 5 grand is a lot to drop on a tranny.

Did you fail to see what all he got w/ it? lol

[steweod]

Originally Posted by mell0 geez 5 grand is a lot to drop on a tranny.

yes that may seem like a bit of money but, to get a manual to hold up to everyday driving at over 700 rwhp it cost a bit more. Honestly if where his power ratings are at all he needs is like the TKO 600 setup that i had in my car when all i had was a procharger. i spent like 2300 for the tranny and 1000 on a spec stage 3 w/ alum pressure plate and flywheel.

[teej281]

Any updates?

[Scott2001GT]

dude was on Nov 4th..idk why is didn't check his thread

[86er]

Originally Posted by Turblow Here is some pics of the compressor so you can see what to measure. Here is the dyno from today at Hansen Performance in Hueytown Alabama. The car was also tuned by James Hansen.

what side of town do you live on?