[stangman92]

ok, so once a week i go to this car meet, all types of cars, and this guy in an integra with a "fully built 1.8L" motor, bored out and apparantly has anything and everything that can be put into that motor EXCEPT nitrous or turbo/supercharger. and the guy called me out saying he can take me in a race regardless of if i spray or not. He wants a 40 roll and wants to put 600$ in cash on it.

my car has a 100 shot but i might be tempted to run 150 just for this occasion, i have full exhaust minus headers, full intake. tune, 3.73 gears. and suspension work so i wouldnt spin at all from a 40 roll.

Am i missing something or is this guy just a stupid ricer ?

[stangman92]

oh and the kids saying he makes 500 to the tire.......

[andrewskaggs]

Originally Posted by stangman92 oh and the kids saying he makes 500 to the tire.......

Without spray or F/I? Not with a 1.8L. No chance.

[dcook_14]

500 to the tires with a 1.8 and no power adder. That's some bullshit

[stangman92]

the 500 to the tire isnt my worry, its just that i dont know honda motors so idk wat they can do fully built with everything imaginable

[stangman92]

Originally Posted by dcook_14 500 to the tires with a 1.8 and no power adder. That's some bullshit

thats exactly what i said. but then why would he put 600 in cash on it ? i mean lets just assume that he has the most powerful 1.8l in the world all motor, would that have a chance, with me spraying?

[andrewskaggs]

Actually, he could be putting 500 down depending on the size of the wing and how many go fast stickers he has on his car. Be careful!

[pumm3l]

It's difficult in it self to reach 500 rwhp in our motors NA and we have 4 extra cylinders, there's no way this dude is puttin' 500 to the wheels without some help. Have you seen under his hood to verify he doesn't have a turbo or a hidden nitrous setup?

[andrewskaggs]

Originally Posted by stangman92 thats exactly what i said. but then why would he put 600 in cash on it ? i mean lets just assume that he has the most powerful 1.8l in the world all motor, would that have a chance, with me spraying?

Well, according to this thread, a Type R VTech 1.8L puts out 195 hp at the crank from the factory.

I have no idea what kind of hp gain you can expect from bolt-ons/motor work in the ricer world, but what you really should be thinking about is power/weight ratio and traction.

Also, I assume this grudge match is going to be done at your local strip, right? We don't need any more greasy spots on our highways.

[xXJayManZXx17]

this dude is blowing smoke up your ass bro there's no way hes making 500 to the wheels without a turbo or nitrous... i have never seen or heard of that ever

[sharkbait]

Dude i know what kind of people your dealing with. Trust me theres something going on in there...most likely nitrous.

Cars like that dont put down more then 250fwhp or so N/A. You need to ask around and figure him out. Its the name of the game

[stangman92]

yea yea yea, itl be in a "safe" enviornment with no possible harm to any bystanders.
And UPDATE, a friend of mine that knows the kid says he was bluffing and he really only puts out 350 to the tire. which is still veryyyyyyyyy steep if u ask me.

And yea, the power to weight was my concern, and being it is from a 40 roll he would spin since he is so light. and i wouldnt spin.



and yea i looked under the hood and theres no turbo and no nitrous lines to be seen, and i looked in the trunk and no bottle, so no signs of nitrous in sight.

[pumm3l]

haha I don't think you can have 40mph rolls at the strip....

[zinc-vert02]

just put him the ditch lol jk

[xXJayManZXx17]

thats weird 350 fwhp still seems like way to much for a built 1.8 without nitrous/turbo

[stangman92]

i know, if for us with heads and cams 350 is a GOOD number than how would he do it, in my opinion he cant, bt then why in the world would he call me out and put 600 on it.

[YeloPony]

yeah a 40mp roll at the strip.. wont' happen.. and hate to say it but from a roll we are at a disadvantage.. if he's only talking 1/4 you should be ok, def from a dig... at some point I think the teg will pull away (top end)..

but if you do it legit, on a strip and he's not spraying or FI I don't see how you loose, unless you suck at driving.. I know a bunch of guys with fast integras that 'keep up with GTs'.. but not with you spraying..

I can point you to another forum with a few smart guys and tegs if you wanna talk to them.. and see what's really possible.. I know a neon running high 12s.. (w/ turbo)

..found an interesting thread..http://hondaswap.com/hybrid-eg-ek-dc...ls-vtec-16356/

[pumm3l]

Originally Posted by stangman92 yea yea yea, itl be in a "safe" enviornment with no possible harm to any bystanders. And UPDATE, a friend of mine that knows the kid says he was bluffing and he really only puts out 350 to the tire. which is still veryyyyyyyyy steep if u ask me. And yea, the power to weight was my concern, and being it is from a 40 roll he would spin since he is so light. and i wouldnt spin. and yea i looked under the hood and theres no turbo and no nitrous lines to be seen, and i looked in the trunk and no bottle, so no signs of nitrous in sight.

You can hide them easily and yank the bottle when he goes to shows, you want to look around the intake for something out of the ordinary. What are you puttin down with the 100 shot? probably around the same that your friend claims he's putting down right?

Just to give you an idea, a car putting down 350 whp that weighs around 2600 lbs is potentially a low 11 sec car. I still call BS on the NA 1.8 puttin 350 though.

[1FastFox]

Go out and spank him. You should race for titles cause if you do get beat you shouldnt be driving a mustang.

There is no way in hell he will even be close to you after 7 or 8 seconds.

[xXJayManZXx17]

with that kinda money on the race i would say hes got something up his sleeve cause he is either positive he is gonna win or he is just plain stupid