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post #1 of 22 Old June 17th, 2010, 10:13 PM Thread Starter
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Traction control?

I've always wondered how the traction control worked. It feels like the computer is cutting the power to the car somehow but I'm not sure, maybe it does something to the tranny as well? I always left it off cuz I hated it anyways, but I just wanted to see if I could disable it permanently or if that would cause any problems once my build is done.

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I think it retards the timing. You can shut it off permanently with a tune. Should cause no problems unless you are heavy footed in the slippery stuff.




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its somewhere in the owners manual what it does. i can tell you for a fact that it can cut fuel. i accidently leaned out my motor for just a second because i juiced it with the traction control on and it activated.

it can be disabled with a tuner. traction control sucks really. my feelings on it are if you're afraid of the car and need to use it, you shouldnt be driving the car in the 1st place.



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Traction control retards timing, cuts fuel, and applies the brakes on the wheel that is slipping (I believe in that order).
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"The traction control system for the Mustang that combines brake and engine management to control wheelspin. When any of the four ABS/traction control sensors detect that a drive wheel is spinning at a rate higher than its counterpart, ignition spark is retarded and the fuel/air ratio is modulated to attenuate torque delivered to the slipping tire. If the condition persists, cylinder cut-off occurs, brakes are applied to the wheel with low friction, and power is transferred to the other drive wheel. The driver is informed of TCS events via an indicator light in the instrument cluster. TCS may not significantly improve traction when both wheels are on a slippery surface, but it optimizes the use of available traction. The benefit under this condition is improved vehicle steerability and stability provided by controlling excess wheel slip."

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With it off, think I'll run better 1/4 time? lol

Just messin, yeah I am an idiot, kept it on at the track. From what I've heard and read, like everyone else is saying, cuts fuel and brakes the slipping wheel(s)
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its somewhere in the owners manual what it does. i can tell you for a fact that it can cut fuel. i accidently leaned out my motor for just a second because i juiced it with the traction control on and it activated.

it can be disabled with a tuner. traction control sucks really. my feelings on it are if you're afraid of the car and need to use it, you shouldnt be driving the car in the 1st place.
My traction control has saved my ass a couple times......

The 1st was when I went to work in the morning, and it was bright and sunny, and right as I was leaving work in the afternoon, it started to snow. By the time I got home, there was 6" of snow on the ground. I had it disabled in my tune, but luckily had my tuner in the trunk. Without the traction control enabled, I couldn't even move the car. As soon as I turned it back on, I drove the 25 miles home with limited problems.

The 2nd time was on the way home from the dragstrip with my ET Streets on the car, and it started raining hard. Traction control was very useful in being able to take off in the car.
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The 1st was when I went to work in the morning, and it was bright and sunny, and right as I was leaving work in the afternoon, it started to snow. By the time I got home, there was 6" of snow on the ground. I had it disabled in my tune, but luckily had my tuner in the trunk. Without the traction control enabled, I couldn't even move the car. As soon as I turned it back on, I drove the 25 miles home with limited problems.
Some sports cars recommend in the manual that you turn traction control OFF if you're in the snow. Buddy has a newer Challenger and that's what's recommended in the manual. I never found TC useful in the snow as it just kept you from moving when you wanted to go.

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In mine it has a traction control button right next to where the cig lighter is... can be turned on/off just by pressing the button.



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Some sports cars recommend in the manual that you turn traction control OFF if you're in the snow. Buddy has a newer Challenger and that's what's recommended in the manual. I never found TC useful in the snow as it just kept you from moving when you wanted to go.
Well, I can tell you without a doubt when you're riding on 315/35/17 summer use only tires, without the traction control, you won't move a bit, and if you do, it won't be forward, more sideways than anything. I would let off the clutch, and just sit there, back tires spinning, and I wasn't giving it any gas.

With TC turned on, I was able to drive it home.
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Well, I can tell you without a doubt when you're riding on 315/35/17 summer use only tires, without the traction control, you won't move a bit, and if you do, it won't be forward, more sideways than anything. I would let off the clutch, and just sit there, back tires spinning, and I wasn't giving it any gas.

With TC turned on, I was able to drive it home.
Been there, done that. With proper right foot control and steering you can go places. Yes, the tires will spin but you control it.

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i got a 99 6er and it has lights on gauge panel that shows if TC is on or off but has no switch, and the light is always off. i know some model 6ers came with it. so is there anyway i can mod or somthin so i can enable this? would be really really helpful when it rains lol
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Been there, done that. With proper right foot control and steering you can go places. Yes, the tires will spin but you control it.
You must have a reading comprehension problem........ When the car is spinning and sitting still without giving it any gas, how it right foot control going to help? Steer all you want, but if you're not going anywhere at a dead stop, where are you going?
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You must have a reading comprehension problem........ When the car is spinning and sitting still without giving it any gas, how it right foot control going to help? Steer all you want, but if you're not going anywhere at a dead stop, where are you going?
Feather the clutch and learn to drive. TC doesn't really do anything you can not do with good driving.

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Feather the clutch and learn to drive. TC doesn't really do anything you can not do with good driving.
You're hilarious..........

But I probably wouldn't make random remarks like that without knowing some background of the person you're talking about........ You might just be talking out of your ass without knowing it.
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man you guys are really funny. how do you think people got around in the winter before traction control? for that matter how did they drive without abs? (you do realize that cars have been around for a hunred years or so & driving crutches, oops, I mean aids, have only been around for about 20)
I agree with some of the above posts, if you can't handle the car, you cant handle the car & traction control/abs is just giving you a false sense of security.
what kinda retard drives in the show with 315's anyway?

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Casper is right.

I have found traction control to be useless. I have been driving on snow with limited slip differential cars since the late '60s. After a single winter I realized that I react much faster than the computer in the snow. You are correct that summer tires in the snow and slicks in the rain (both situations are beyond the design limitations of the tires) are hard to control. That is why you take off in second and slip the clutch. My traction control is permanently turned off. But then again, I try to run the proper tire for my driving conditions.

As far as ABS is concerned, it has taken me years to learn to not pump the brakes.

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You're hilarious..........

But I probably wouldn't make random remarks like that without knowing some background of the person you're talking about........ You might just be talking out of your ass without knowing it.
I'm not insulting you or your driving man, don't take it personal. All I'm saying is that anything that's done with TC can be accomplished with proper driving of the car. Electronics are simply aids to make things easier.

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what kinda retard drives in the show with 315's anyway?
One that lives in North Carolina where it never snows, and it's 60 degrees when you leave the house, and snowing on the way home..........
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