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lowering the rev limiter, to avoid engine damage
so im gonna be drifting the car, and i was considering lowering the rev limiter to like 5500 so i can be less worried about bouncing of the rev limiter being as bouncing off of it at 5500 is less dangerous than bouncing off at the factory set rev limiter.
Any opinions, would it be dangerous to have the rev limiter at 5500 or a little lower and just be bouncing off it the whole time? |
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Well, you can change it with a handheld tuner, but I think you'll be better off staying off the limiter than dropping it down. Ideally, you'll develop enough throttle control that you won't need to just peg it out, you can keep it with just enough throttle to keep the rear end where you want it.
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Yeah, i agree... bouncing the rev limiter may make your car react less how you'd want it anyways. Just develop throttle control skills and get a feel for where exactly the pedal needs to be at that point in time. Good luck! But if you don't feel comfortable doing that then you can drop it with a handheld tuner. But i've bounced mine off of the 6.2k rpm rev limiter i have on my car during a burnout a few times, i really don't think it would be THAT hard on the car. I mean you're already drifting it lol...
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rev so wud u even bother lowering it to say 6 or 5750 just so if i do bounch off it its not at such a high rpm?
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Me personally? No, I'd just go out and swing it. I'd at least try it once before modding the car.
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Huh? When I supercharged my car the tuner recommended raising the rev limiter so that I wouldn't bounce off it. Why would you lower it? That just makes it more likely that you will hit it.
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^^ Exactly
If you lowered it to 5500 where our cars NA usually make its most power then youll just bounce off it more. Id raise it to 6500 so you wont bounce off of it. Id rather over rev then hit the rev limiter. Im under boost and my tuner set the rev limiter at 6500 and told me to shift at 6300rpm.
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good ol houston performance didnt put a rev limiter on my car when they tuned it.. ive bounced that needle off the dash revving well past 7k lol.. not sure how it didnt come apart
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My tuner wanted to set it at 7k. I'm the only that balked at it asking him to set it at 6500 instead. I just wasn't sure the valve springs would hold up.
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Okay now that you said that Eagle and Unix, do you think I should just put mine at like 6800? Ive bounced off the rev limiter a few times in 1st gear only. And over-revving is better then hitting the rev-limiter.
Plus If I do that, that would allow me to go through the traps with stock tire size. Yes? no? Id only rev it past 6300rpm if I A) Missshift, or B) am going through the traps on stock tire size.
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on a misshift i never seem to even over rev
btw, bouncing off the limiter is a very very bad idea as it cuts fuel. NOT what you want. i thought mine was 6600 but i've revved the piss out of mine and revved to what looks like at least that but haven't hit a limiter lol
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Traction control on the other hand cuts fuel and should ALWAYS be turned off in the tune of a poweradder car.
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???? bull crap
the factory limiter cuts fuel....if were not talking about the factory limiter then my bad...but otherwise...
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and remember when you rev that high your cams are damn near spinning twice the speed of your crank. think about your valve springs. valve float is BAD! lol and id rather hit the limiter and not have a rod come apart on me. im not sure what the rod bolts on the factory shortblock are rated for but i doubt its going to last long near 7k rpm
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you sure your not thinking of the 5.0?
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ok so i was partially wrong. first it retards the timing (not really a spark cut) then it completely shuts fuel off.. so it doesnt limit the fuel it turns it completely of. in that case it would not cause a lean condition it would cause a no fuel condition. i retract my statement about it being bad to hit the limiter.
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Yeah, rev limiter is there for a reason. You could bounce off of it all day and not fuck anything up unless it over heats. It doesn't cut fuel, why would factory do that? It cuts combustion, not fuel. Now over reving it is WAY worse than hitting the limiter, thats what the limiter is there to stop. You'll float your valves and detonate your engine. Lol, turning 7k is not good on your engine at all, i don't think 6.5k is... thats pretty far into it, plus there is not point in turning that kind of rpm, your car won't make power up into that range so its really pointless.
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so 6500 is too high?
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I think you'd be fine... like for a burnout and stuff but theres not really a point and banging out gears that long. It may for a supercharged car so idk, just get a feel for it.
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![]() I was still making power at 6100rpm before cams and intake so I should be making power at higher rpm now.. just wondering if 6500 is still okay with a blower
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