[Badasstang281]

we went form a 15 mph roll at the top of my 3ed gear he hade my by a finder he hade a cai, blow off valve and Exhaust did not think that it would by that close were I live srt-4 beet stang all the time but I need gears so bad

[Forbiden]

He should of walked you from a roll. Good job.

[99GT281]

my buddie in LA has an srt-4 and said they can jump but stock for stock the stang should be a lil faster.

i raced a white one not too long ago and pulled it in first and second from a dig but that third gear is when they can catch up. both were neck and neck before we had to let off for traffic ahead..

its always fun runnin those neons.

sounds like a good race badasstang..

[Forbiden]

Originally Posted by 99GT281 my buddie in LA has an srt-4 and said they can jump but stock for stock the stang should be a lil faster. i raced a white one not too long ago and pulled it in first and second from a dig but that third gear is when they can catch up. both were neck and neck before we had to let off for traffic ahead.. its always fun runnin those neons. sounds like a good race badasstang..

Stock for Stock an SRT-4 will walk a GT. Drivers being equal. They have a larger advantage from a roll. From a dig, SRT-4's are at a disadvantage--No traction and weight transfer.

[neckbonekat]

Originally Posted by Badasstang281 we went form a 15 mph roll at the top of my 3ed gear he hade my by a finder he hade a cai, blow off valve and Exhaust did not think that it would by that close were I live srt-4 beet stang all the time but I need gears so bad

Not to sound like a complete ass, but could you re-write this in english? LOL
Did you win or lose?

[machfelon]

Don't know why people care about SRT-4's

All they are are a suped up DODGE NEON

NEON's are notorious for needing new tranny's and blown motors etc. When I worked at Honda some girl came in with a 2 year old neon and was about 6k upside down not to mention the transmission was shot. Got her into a used Corolla with a massive payment. haha

I'd rather have a Cobalt SS than an SRT-4.

I raced one in my mach 1 and killed it.

[neckbonekat]

Originally Posted by machfelon Don't know why people care about SRT-4's All they are are a suped up DODGE NEON NEON's are notorious for needing new tranny's and blown motors etc. When I worked at Honda some girl came in with a 2 year old neon and was about 6k upside down not to mention the transmission was shot. Got her into a used Corolla with a massive payment. haha I'd rather have a Cobalt SS than an SRT-4. I raced one in my mach 1 and killed it.

Your Mach is a little faster than a almost stock GT and I don't know too many older stock Neons with a turbo compressor.

PS - You can beat any car to death if you are dumb enough.

[machfelon]

Originally Posted by neckbonekat Originally Posted by machfelon Don't know why people care about SRT-4's All they are are a suped up DODGE NEON NEON's are notorious for needing new tranny's and blown motors etc. When I worked at Honda some girl came in with a 2 year old neon and was about 6k upside down not to mention the transmission was shot. Got her into a used Corolla with a massive payment. haha I'd rather have a Cobalt SS than an SRT-4. I raced one in my mach 1 and killed it. Your Mach is a little faster than a almost stock GT and I don't know too many older stock Neons with a turbo compressor. PS - You can beat any car to death if you are dumb enough.

NEONs are just plain a crappy car. They have been rebadged so many times and Chrysler refuses to eliminate it.

I realize you can beat any car to death. But when a car has 30 K miles and has that many problems you have to wonder. You see a lot of trades selling cars and it was always the same story with the NEONs.

I also realize that the SRT name plate is Dodge's superior line. It makes sense on a charger not on a NEON.

I also realize that the thread starter owns a mustang GT and not a neon. I have been on a ton of car forums in my time and whenever you talk to a SRT - 4 owner they have an elitest attitude like thier car is the best. They need to be told that they are driving a NEON.

Also your point about my mach being faster than a stock GT. No sh*t. But I'd rather own a mustang than a SRT-4

My girl has a 2006 V6 stang and I drive that as often as my GT.

[Forbiden]

Originally Posted by machfelon Don't know why people care about SRT-4's All they are are a suped up DODGE NEON NEON's are notorious for needing new tranny's and blown motors etc. When I worked at Honda some girl came in with a 2 year old neon and was about 6k upside down not to mention the transmission was shot. Got her into a used Corolla with a massive payment. haha I'd rather have a Cobalt SS than an SRT-4. I raced one in my mach 1 and killed it.

Why people care about SRT-4s:

Limited production.
Huge aftermarket.
Can be had for around 13-17k in like new condition.
Make 400-500fwhp with ease.
Easy to drop weight.
Awesome highway racer (I can't stand drag racing fwd).
Handles well (LSD).
Easy to mod.

An SRT-4 with the same dollar amount invested as your mach 1, will destroy your mach 1 (Car, mods, etc = amount invested).

Cobalts are inferior to SRT-4. That's been the facts forever.

...and by your logic all a mach 1 is is a suped up base model. That is not a valid argument.

Did I mention SRT-4 has been through 24-hours of thunderhill? I don't know too many "neons" that have done that.

[Forbiden]

Originally Posted by machfelon Originally Posted by neckbonekat Originally Posted by machfelon Don't know why people care about SRT-4's All they are are a suped up DODGE NEON NEON's are notorious for needing new tranny's and blown motors etc. When I worked at Honda some girl came in with a 2 year old neon and was about 6k upside down not to mention the transmission was shot. Got her into a used Corolla with a massive payment. haha I'd rather have a Cobalt SS than an SRT-4. I raced one in my mach 1 and killed it. Your Mach is a little faster than a almost stock GT and I don't know too many older stock Neons with a turbo compressor. PS - You can beat any car to death if you are dumb enough. NEONs are just plain a crappy car. They have been rebadged so many times and Chrysler refuses to eliminate it. I realize you can beat any car to death. But when a car has 30 K miles and has that many problems you have to wonder. You see a lot of trades selling cars and it was always the same story with the NEONs. I also realize that the SRT name plate is Dodge's superior line. It makes sense on a charger not on a NEON. I also realize that the thread starter owns a mustang GT and not a neon. I have been on a ton of car forums in my time and whenever you talk to a SRT - 4 owner they have an elitest attitude like thier car is the best. They need to be told that they are driving a NEON. Also your point about my mach being faster than a stock GT. No sh*t. But I'd rather own a mustang than a SRT-4 My girl has a 2006 V6 stang and I drive that as often as my GT.

My SRT-4 never had any problems. Just because the driver is retarded and doesn't take care of their car doesn't make the car bad. All cars have issues when not taken care of. A lot of SRT-4 owners are elitist because of who they are, which is usually punk high school kid. I've seen WAY MORE elitist mustang owners. Mustang is a nice car, but keep in mind how mass produced it is. I bet the mustang has a higher percentage of problem cars than neons.

[99GT281]

Originally Posted by Forbiden Stock for Stock an SRT-4 will walk a GT.

its a drivers race yes... but a stock for stock race an SRT-4 should not WALK a GT unless it is a 96-98 gt... it should be very close. you talk like they should be puttin blocks on us GTs.

[99GT281]

Originally Posted by Forbiden I bet the mustang has a higher percentage of problem cars than neons.

and where is the dodge neon now?????

discontinued i think...

and now the srt-4 is going to be put in the dodge caliber..

[Forbiden]

Originally Posted by 99GT281 Originally Posted by Forbiden I bet the mustang has a higher percentage of problem cars than neons. and where is the dodge neon now????? discontinued i think... and now the srt-4 is going to be put in the dodge caliber..

Caliber is the new neon. I'm not standing up for regular neons, I hate them. I'm just making a point that the SRT-4 is a good car, especially for $$ invested.

[machfelon]

Originally Posted by Forbiden Originally Posted by machfelon Don't know why people care about SRT-4's All they are are a suped up DODGE NEON NEON's are notorious for needing new tranny's and blown motors etc. When I worked at Honda some girl came in with a 2 year old neon and was about 6k upside down not to mention the transmission was shot. Got her into a used Corolla with a massive payment. haha I'd rather have a Cobalt SS than an SRT-4. I raced one in my mach 1 and killed it. Why people care about SRT-4s: Limited production. Huge aftermarket. Can be had for around 13-17k in like new condition. Make 400-500fwhp with ease. Easy to drop weight. Awesome highway racer (I can't stand drag racing fwd). Handles well (LSD). Easy to mod. An SRT-4 with the same dollar amount invested as your mach 1, will destroy your mach 1 (Car, mods, etc = amount invested). Cobalts are inferior to SRT-4. That's been the facts forever. ...and by your logic all a mach 1 is is a suped up base model. That is not a valid argument. Did I mention SRT-4 has been through 24-hours of thunderhill? I don't know too many "neons" that have done that.

First off I do not have an elitest attitude. I am not interested in the fact of whether or not someones car is faster than mine. My ego does not get hurt if someone beats me. They will never know since I do not take my car to the track nor do I abuse it.

Comparing a mach 1 to a gt. No actually a mach 1 is closer to a cobra than to a gt. 2v vs 4v. Forged internals are the main difference and the super charger on the cobra.

I have not always driven mustangs. Actually I was a chevy guy before I bought my mach 1. Had 1 trans am and 2 camaros, one a v6 and 1 a z28.

I just plain hate neons or whatever you want to call them. Srt-4.

If you want a good rally car as you said, then get a wrx-sti. I have more respect for them as they actually are rather fast and the awd makes it stick well off the line.

But as was said this is moot. 1 because I no longer own a mach 1 and 2 you no longer own an srt-4.

[orangeRcode]

I raced a lightly modded one a while back. I pulled about 2 cars on him. He wouldn't go from a dig, only a roll right where he was spooled up. It was close for about 2-3 seconds. We pulled over and chatted for a bit. He had CAI, tune and larger downpipe (?) You will have to forgive me, don't know much about turbo systems. I had CAI, catted midpipe and catback at the time. I have seen several at the local track with stickies in the 12s so they can be quick with some work.

[neckbonekat]

Originally Posted by 99GT281 Originally Posted by Forbiden Stock for Stock an SRT-4 will walk a GT. its a drivers race yes... but a stock for stock race an SRT-4 should not WALK a GT unless it is a 96-98 gt... it should be very close. you talk like they should be puttin blocks on us GTs.

If both cars are stock with a equally skilled drivers the Mustang has a best chance from a dig and then it is a drivers race. From a roll the SRT-4 will win with equally skilled drivers.

[Forbiden]

Originally Posted by machfelon First off I do not have an elitest attitude. ... My ego does not get hurt if someone beats me. ...

I didn't say you did.

Comparing a mach 1 to a gt. No actually a mach 1 is closer to a cobra than to a gt. 2v vs 4v. Forged internals are the main difference and the super charger on the cobra.

The SRT-4 has a completely different motor and also has forged internals and a turbo. Sounds like I made good judgement in my statement considering the mach 1 isn't a basic mustang and an SRT-4 isn't a basic neon, but a better comparison would of been a basic gt and an 03-04 cobra.

I have not always driven mustangs. Actually I was a chevy guy before I bought my mach 1. Had 1 trans am and 2 camaros, one a v6 and 1 a z28.

What did I say that warranted a response about chevies?

If you want a good rally car as you said, then get a wrx-sti. I have more respect for them as they actually are rather fast and the awd makes it stick well off the line.

24(25) hours of thunderhill is an endurance race on a road course, not a rally. Either way, I prefer evos over stis (used to own an '03, great car).

[flattusmaximus78]

I saw the srt-4's at sebring this year. I was camped out on turn 13. They were doing pre lemans races. Most of them broke down. But the ones that raced were sad. They were destroyed by mazdas and acuras because they couldn't turn for their lives.

[Jeff99gt]

it just hurts me to think that those cars can beat a mustang gt... my stomach literally goes in knots over it (if i had a turbo to tho, hmmm)

[flattusmaximus78]

Well a gt can be had for 10 grand with very decent mileage. Ford never made the gt's to be all out beast's. Thats what cobras are for. Gt's like v6s are there to appeal to all the public but the gt has the extra get up and go.

I doesn't matter if dollar for dollar is faster. Mustangs are flat out out funner to drive. I've been in gt's, many cobras, and an srt-4. The srt-4 was fast but it never put a smile on my face.