[BiGD12590]

Alright my car is a 1999 GT auto, took it to get dynoed, i know the owner and he said it would hold up to a 150 shot. I didnt think so but he did so I decided to go with it. Got it all hook up over the next few days and decided to see what it put out. First run everything went fine, second run at about 4 grand BAM shot a rod threw the block on the drivers side. So everything didnt turn out as planned. I wanted to drop a new motor in it eventually so finally I can. So I want new motor, trans, some sort of forced induction, and spray. I want ridiculous power. I was thinking 302, turbo, and some spray. But idk, I need help. I was looking at the 5.0 cammer, but I looked around on some forums and people were saying how they are way over priced and that I could have the same amount of power if not alot more for alot cheaper. I am going to use this mainly as my car club car. and i will take it to the track every once in a while. But mainly just to car club and do street races. But I want it to be the car that everyone is afraid of.

Thanx for your help

[02steedagt]

look at white99stang or drgnracin72's cars. they've got pretty beast setups.

[MustangMatt96GT]

Yeah stick with the modular. If I were you, I would get a 4V forged block with a forged stroker crank, dished forged pistons to keep compression way down, and forged rods. some nice stage 2 VT or Patriot Performance heads with ethier turbo or blower stage 2 cams. Then I would ethier put on a vortech or some sort of twin turbo. Then since your engine is built, you could run crazy boost and then throw in a nice shot of spray. The tranny would depend if you want t stick or an auto. The tremec TKO 600 is a nice tranny. Good luck and let us know

[the real shocker]

i would have been pissed!! good luck whatever you decide to do

[ChrisJ]

thats why you ahve to sign the disclaimer to get on the dyno...

Talk to white99stang and drgnracin72 they both have some mean ass strokers...

[Drgnracin72]

if your wanting to make a ton of power, your est bet is to stay away from the stroker and go with a big bore. go with wet sleeves. the big bore will make mor epower in the long run

[MustangMatt96GT]

By going wet sleved it will cost more, but it will be much tougher and the way to go if boring the block out at all. The 4.6 can be bored and stroked to 326 I believe, but that is the biggest it can get.

[BiGD12590]

Alright I want a manual car, so I will most likely throw a six speed in it. From what I've told you that I want I would like you to tell me what set up you would do. Cost not being a factor. Just tell me what you would do if you could do anything you want and money isn't a factor. I'm definitely going to do a turbo.

Thank you for taking your time to look at this and give me your opinions and advice.

[Drgnracin72]

if money was no option and i was wanting a badass street/strip car. i would build a 5.4 4V with about 10.5:1 compression and do some big ass twin turbos make over 1000 hp and be fast!!!! but thats exremelt expensive

[MustangMatt96GT]

Agreed cant go wrong with a 5.4 4V and twin turbos. Tell us what type of money you want to spend on this and then we can help you out better. Whit no limits we will have built you a $30000 motor.

[handyandy]

Looks like you have the money and the will to get some serious stuff. Go with what these guys said (big stage heads and cams and all) for the FI though, go twin turbos, or if you wanna supercharge dont get a centrifugal, if you want big big power hit up a Kenne Bell or if you get a motor that a Whipple will fit on, stick to those twin screws, thats where the power is at.

[Drgnracin72]

your wrong handyandy. centri blowers are faster and make more power

[MustangMatt96GT]

They are better for racing because most of racing is done at higher rpms and that is where a turbo or a centrifical blower makes it power. The positive displacement blowers create most of there boost down low providing a lot of low end torque and power. Centrificals are opposite. But back to the topic, hell if money isnt an issue, he could have that 5.4 bored and stroked to make even more power, but compression would have to be down if he were to run a lot of boost.

[Drgnracin72]

more compresison you run will give you more power. thats where a lot of your money is going to go

[Drgnracin72]

what i described would [pretty much be a race only motor

[MustangMatt96GT]

Tell me if I am wrong drgn, the higher the compression the less boost should be run. Wont you be lifting your heads off the block with a high compression high boost application?

[BiGD12590]

Alright so it seems a 5.4 4v would be the way to go. Should I get just a block and build it or a crate 5.4? Where would be a good place to get one from? I'm really feeling a turbo or twin turbo set up. I want it to be the talk of the town. There is a brand new 07 Z06 with a procharger and full bolt ons going around town and I've seen the guy at car club every once in a while, everyone is saying how ridiculously fast his car is and shit (it is one hell of a car, don't get me wrong) but quite frankly I'm getting tired of it. So I want to give him a good run for his money. Or just completely spank his ass. I don't know exactly what all this is going to cost, I know its going to be a lot. I've been getting offers on my 67 mustang over the last couple weeks and the highest so far was $75,000. I was only looking to use no more then half of this on my car and the other half on getting a new truck. This was the highest offer so far, so I could get one even higher which means I will be able to spend more. But that is just an idea of what I'm looking to spend. I want this car to be balls out fast, and I know you guys will help me make all the decisions necessary to make it happen.

Thanx again guys.

[handyandy]

drgnracing, your probably mistaking what I said with a roots type. Roots is similar to a twin screw, but it is not as efficient or powerful as a centrifugal, but a twinscrew beats both types. A twinscrew makes constant (and lots) of power throughout the entire RPM range, right when you punch it. A centri doesn't start really boosting until 3000 rpm when it really spools up. Centris function almost like turbos, but are not. They make more boost as the RPM's go up. People have a hardtime getting traction with twin screws unless they have suspension work because of the instant and amount of power it provides.

I'm sure you know all that, but I dont see how a centi is faster and makes more power than a twin screw. Its a known fact that a twin screw is the most powerful one. If there were two identical cars one with a centri and one witha twinscrew, the screw would kill the centri from a dig from the instant power, the centri might pull a little harder up top, bu tit wont start until 3k anyway.

[MustangMatt96GT]

So it looks like you have about 35000 grand to spend. The 5.4 4V will be excellent! Personally I would build my own. That way it is how you want it. Since this is a street driven car I would suggest stage 2 heads from a place like VTengines with some custom ground cams for your twin turbo set up. This will be one hell of a machine! And with all of that power I would definatly suggest an 8 point roll bar, and some full length subframe connectors. Also with that type of power you are going to need a hell of a tranny. The tranny part I am no help on and dont have a clue. And to tell you the truth I dont have a clue where to find a nice forged 5.4 4V block that can support the amount of horsepower this will bring you. Drgn probably will as for he has been around engines and shops much longer than I have he will also probably know where to get a twin turbo kit for a 5.4 4V. He will probably also have somebetter input but I try my best.

[MustangMatt96GT]

Handandy I think you are mistaken. The twinscrew as in a Kenne Bell will make a lot more boost at a low rpm where as the centrical will start at a little higher spot. It can be at 3000 rpm or lower or higher depends on the blower. For drag racing the centrifical is a better option it makes more power in the high end which the high end is what is primarily used when racing. Also the twinscrew blowers take more horsepower to "spool" than the centrificals. The twin screw will make more power with less boost, but it is not the fastest and best blower on the market.