[boltonstang]

I am wondering what the fastest 1/4 mile time is for a bolt on, full suspension, and built 8.8 with 4.10 gears 2v 4.6 is. No nitrous no power adders no head word etc. My friend and I might shoot for a record. I could find much on the subject with out seeing nitrous in the pictures but whatever times you guys come up with can you post the cars weight to?

[Black Bullitt]

F8L GT just told me just a little a bit ago a GT 2v ran an 11.98, but it had a swapped in Bullitt manifold and after market cams, so it wasn't a true stock long block. Not sure on the weight. Hope that gives you an idea.

[bitemark46]

Originally Posted by Black Bullitt F8L GT just told me just a little a bit ago a GT 2v ran an 11.98, but it had a swapped in Bullitt manifold and after market cams, so it wasn't a true stock long block. Not sure on the weight. Hope that gives you an idea.

That was Bill Putnam. By definition, a stock longblock is the shortblock, heads, and cams w/ no intake. So swapping an intake its still considered a longblock.

long block definition

[boltonstang]

Intake is a bolt on. Im looking for whats been stated above. Stock long block w/ full bolt ons, suspension, rear, and no laughing gas or boost.

[boltonstang]

Originally Posted by bitemark46 That was Bill Putnam. By definition, a stock longblock is the shortblock, heads, and cams w/ no intake. So swapping an intake its still considered a longblock. long block definition

Do you know the weight of your car?

[tbirdscwd]

With a good suspension/tire combo, a well driven manual 2v bolt-on GT at full weight is capable of high 12s. Pretty much everything after that has to be made up by weight reduction (since power isn't going up). If you look at the fastest N/A 2v mustangs out there, the one thing they all have is SERIOUS weight reduction.

[Black Bullitt]

Originally Posted by bitemark46 That was Bill Putnam. By definition, a stock longblock is the shortblock, heads, and cams w/ no intake. So swapping an intake its still considered a longblock. long block definition

I was referring to the cams. I did not specify.

[F8L GT]

you and i buddy are going for the same record . I have been talking to Bill Putnam over on Modular Revolution about this same subject

[boltonstang]

Originally Posted by F8L GT you and i buddy are going for the same record . I have been talking to Bill Putnam over on Modular Revolution about this same subject

Haha well its more of my friend then me. I have a ls1 but my friend said he wanted to try and get his into mid to low 12's with bolt ons ect..... I told him if he did it would probably be close to a record and he couldnt do it without dropping a pounds. Do you know what the current record is?

[F8L GT]

Bill said that the quickest he has ran w/o cames was 12.47@107. He gave me this link to look at that he put together. He said not all mods are listed such as intakes because they are not considered a major mod. He also said it was limited to ported heads, headswaps on non-pi cars, built engines, cams.

http://www.modularrevolution.com/for...ead.php?t=8256

[F8L GT]

hold on, link didnt work

[F8L GT]

I just copied the 2v n/a portion

1999 - 2004 2V Naturally Aspirated (PI Heads) 1/4 ET:
1 . Fastest NA 2V - 10.69 @ 127.00 ( 1999 GT 5 SPD - 302ci Mod )
2 . nine - 10.82 @ 126.96 ( YEAR?,TRANS? - 286CI 2V - PURE STREET )
3 . KenB - 10.83 @ 124.41 ( 2000 GT 5 SPD )
4 . Biff - 11.05 @ 120.93 ( 1998 GT 5 SPD - F/S, PI HEADS, 287ci, BFGs )
5 . Steve Gifford - 11.42 @ 118.00 ( GT 5 SPD )
6 . Steve Drier (Houston Performance) - 11.45 @ 115.00 ( 1995 GT AUTO - SVO HEADS/INTAKE, STROKED )
7 . starkie - 11.52 @ 116.76 ( 2001 GT 5 SPD )
8 . Yellow02GTauto - 11.67 @ 112.17 ( 2002 GT AUTO - HEADS/CAMS )
9 . madmike - 11.68 @ 115.66 ( 2000 GT 5 SPD )
10 . stroked_4.6 - 11.80 @ 119.06 ( 2000 GT - STROKED, TFS )
11 . Kurt02GT - 11.90 @ 113.29 ( 2002 GT AUTO )
12 . Gt - 11.92 @ 112.33 ( 2002 GT AUTO )
13 . Ian Mullane - 11.94 @ 111.66 ( 1996 GTS 5 SPD - PI ENG )
14 . Bill Putnam - 11.97 @ 113.20 ( 2000 GT 5 SPD )
15 . 96SOHC - 11.98 @ 110.52 ( 1996 GT VERT AUTO - HS - VT CAMS )
16 . John Edwards - 11.99 @ 112.10 ( 1999 GT AUTO )
17 . Randy Stinchcomb - 11.99 @ 113.65 ( 1996 GT 5 SPD - SVO HEADS/INTAKE )
18 . TSS Racing - 12.02 @ 111.04 ( 2000 GT 5 SPD )
19 . AutomaticWeapon - 12.03 @ 112.69 ( 2001 GT 5 SPD )
20 . rrg9946 - 12.04 @ 111.00 ( 1999 GT 5 SPD )
21 . ALLMTR2V - 12.05 @ 111.27 ( 1998 GT 5 SPD - HS )
22 . code3GT - 12.09 @ 114.00 ( 2001 GT 5 SPD )
23 . Racer_X - 12.15 @ 112.90 ( 1996 GT 5 SPD - HS )
24 . Doug Johnson (Fast2v) - 12.17 @ 112.02 ( 2000 GT 5 SPD )
25 . Jeff99GT - 12.18 @ 109.30 ( 1999 GT 5 SPD )
26 . John Vanover - 12.23 @ 108.99 ( 1999 GT AUTO )
27 . Kurgan - 12.24 @ 110.03 ( 2001 GT 5 SPD )
28 . Lazer Red 99 GT - 12.25 @ 110.31 ( 1999 GT 5 SPD - VT cams )
29 . Shane Williams - 12.25 @ 110.00 ( 1999 GT AUTO )
30 . Gary Youngblood - 12.26 @ 108.00 ( 2001 GT AUTO )
31 . ponynx - 12.30 @ 110.26 ( 2003 GT 5 SPD )
32 . TruBlu01 - 12.39 @ 108.89 ( 2001 GT 5 SPD )
33 . silver2k2gt - 12.47 @ 107.68 ( 2002 GT AUTO )
34 . Ed Galanda - 12.47 @ 105.31 ( 2004 GT 5 SPD )
35 . mogs01gt - 12.50 @ 110.00 ( 2001 GT 5 SPD, PORTED HEADS, CAMS )
36 . RavenGT - 12.50 @ 106.80 ( 2000 GT 5 SPD - SOLD )
37 . Ruckus46gt - 12.52 @ 107.81 ( 2000 GT 5 SPD )
38 . wht00gt - 12.59 @ 107.04 ( 2000 GT 5 SPD )
39 . playground60 - 12.60 @ 110.14 ( 2002 GT 5 SPD )
40 . 96SOHC - 12.60 @ 106.64 ( 1996 GT VERT AUTO - HS )
41 . Real-slo98 - 12.61 @ 108.96 ( 1998 GT AUTO - HS )
42 . auto02 - 12.61 @ 107.00 ( 2002 GT AUTO )
43 . Extreme281 - 12.62 @ 108.52 ( 2002 GT 5 SPD )
44 . EVIL GT - 12.65 @ 108.59 ( 2000 GT AUTO )
45 . GMsucks - 12.68 @ 106.64 ( 2003 GT )
46 . 98GtConvt - 12.70 @ 110.40 ( 1998 GT 5 SPD VERT - HS )
47 . crawlinGT - 12.71 @ 106.90 ( 2002 GT 5 SPD )
48 . mineralgraygt - 12.70 @ 108.00 ( 2002 GT 5 SPD )
49 . BlueStangGT - 12.71 @ 109.00 ( 1998 GT 5 SPD - HS )
50 . Madi98GT - 12.72 @ 107.13 ( 1998 GT 5 SPD - HS )
51 . AR1Grdpoundr - 12.72 @ 107.34 ( 1998 GT 5 SPD - HS )
52 . Mustang03 - 12.72 @ 107.76 ( 2003 GT 5 SPD )
53 . JayZ - 12.73 @ 107.39 ( 2002 GT 5 SPD )

[boltonstang]

Interesting it seems like what'd you'd be looking at on stock weight then would be in the 12.8+ area.

[kennyGT]

im working on this right now 5.4L with HPS intake jlt CAI, 75mm tb and plenum, bbk h-pipe dumped race bullets, steeda pullies, rear seat delete and manual crank windows big and skinnies mayybe tubular crossmember if i have some money ;eft over, im just waiting on some negotiating with 330cube for the motor

[Bullitt5339]

Originally Posted by tbirdscwd With a good suspension/tire combo, a well driven manual 2v bolt-on GT at full weight is capable of high 12s. Pretty much everything after that has to be made up by weight reduction (since power isn't going up). If you look at the fastest N/A 2v mustangs out there, the one thing they all have is SERIOUS weight reduction.

I have run multiple 12.9 passes on my car with minor bolt-ons, a good tune, drag radials and a suspension setup for autocross. 12.91@104.9 and a 1.76 60ft time being the fastest, and the only weight reduction was taking the rear and passenger's seat out, and of course the spare tire.

I wonder what it'll do on a suspension setup for drag racing and more aggressive tire?

Hell, I don't even have headers on my car.

[boltonstang]

Originally Posted by Bullitt5339 Ummm, I have run multiple 12.9 passes on my car with minor bolt-ons, a good tune, drag radials and a suspension setup for autocross. 12.91@104.9 and a 1.76 60ft time being the fastest, and the only weight reduction was taking the rear and passenger's seat out, and of course the spare tire. Hell, I don't even have headers on my car.

Thats probably close to .2ths in weight though which would make up for the headers

[kennyGT]

Originally Posted by boltonstang Thats probably close to .2ths in weight though which would make up for the headers

not to mention the bullit comes with the better intake manifold that most have to buy for there GT's

[F8L GT]

Originally Posted by boltonstang Thats probably close to .2ths in weight though which would make up for the headers

I wouldn't say .2. More like .1 at the most

[Trick Tuners]

I always have disliked the term "bolt on".

First bolt on the new stroker crank, then bolt on the rods and the big bore pistons, then bolt on some bad ass heads and cams and top it off with a bolt on intake. Bolt on the headers, bolt on the turbos, then bolt on a nitrous kit. Bolt on a drag suspension and bolt on some slicks. "Stock NA longblock" is a more appropriate term.

[tbirdscwd]

Originally Posted by Bullitt5339 I have run multiple 12.9 passes on my car with minor bolt-ons, a good tune, drag radials and a suspension setup for autocross. 12.91@104.9 and a 1.76 60ft time being the fastest, and the only weight reduction was taking the rear and passenger's seat out, and of course the spare tire. I wonder what it'll do on a suspension setup for drag racing and more aggressive tire? Hell, I don't even have headers on my car.

Just goes to prove my point even further.
1. without the rear seat delete and passenger seat installed, you would be 13.0-13.1 if everything else remained the same.
2. mid 1.7xx 60fts are the best you're really gonna do with bolt-on power and close to stock weight, I don't care what tires/suspension you are running.
3. and depending on what mods you have, there is not much more room for power increases. With a bullitt intake manifold, a tune, and I'm guessing an aftermarket mid-pipe, you have little to nothing to gain from the other bolt-ons available (including headers while running stock heads and cams)