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post #1 of 24 Old September 28th, 2010, 06:25 PM Thread Starter
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4 Point Harness Install Without Harness Bar

I'm trying to install some 4 point harnesses on my corbeaus and it says that you can run them without a harness bar. Has anyone installed them before? Where do you bolt them down?


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The part of the harness that goes behind the seat can (Should) not be angled down more than 45 degrees.
As far as where? not sure. sry.

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I heard it's because if you do it will injure your back if you wreck. The only points i've found so far are the points under the back seat where the old back seatbelts mount. Any other options?


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there are no ligit options for an aftermarket shoulder harness other than a harness bar on a cage.
not only will you risk serious injury if you wreck your car, you'll look like a ricer.
if you feel it's time for something other than the factory seatbelts, its probubly time for a cage as well anyway.

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Any links to a cage you recommend?


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here you go bro. very high quality & easy to install
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Thanks for the link. 2 questions:
-Will I still have my back seat?
-It's a daily driver, am I going to have to step over the cage every time I get in?


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Thanks for the link. 2 questions:
-Will I still have my back seat?
-It's a daily driver, am I going to have to step over the cage every time I get in?
no you cant really use your back seat, for the cage to be legal at the track the harness bar needs to be welded in.
as to the door bars, they swing out or can be removed for d/d use of the car.

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no you cant really use your back seat, for the cage to be legal at the track the harness bar needs to be welded in.
as to the door bars, they swing out or can be removed for d/d use of the car.
So the harness bar on that cage would be fine? I don't need to use the back seat but it will still be there right? Not a big hole?


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Cages are SSIIIIIIIICCCKKKKK. Too bad i have little brothers and sisters and need my back seat >:O

But uhmm you can just get a harness bar to hook up the 4 point seat belts. A cage would be Siiiiick like i mentioned before lol. but if you aren't going hardcore track every weekend I'm sure you dont need it immediately and can manage with the harness bar.

I tried to hook mine up to the where the stock seat belts hook up to and It wasn't worth it man. I still have them connected because I dont wanna go thru the mission of having to remove those screws again. I DO NOT recommend that. Ima go harness bar route.
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I don't want to do it twice so I think i'm going to do the cage.


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By "I tried to hook mine up to the where the stock seat belts hook" I meant the 4 point harness seat belts, not the harness bar. Either or, if you can afford the cage and can live without a functional back seat (which any Mustangs back seat is barely functional anyway) then do it. Post some pics when you're done.
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I have a rear seat delete going in anyway. As long as I have something covering up the trunk I'll be fine with the cage. Reps to all btw. Keep it coming.


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FYI i have seen the cross bar made in to a removable peice, i wonder if you call MM they can handle that for you or you can just have it custom fabbed for that
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Yea id just get a harness bar and then use a 4 point harness. I like harnesses they make a car interesting


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Yea id just get a harness bar and then use a 4 point harness. I like harnesses they make a car interesting
If you do it that way you're risking serious injury if you roll your car. With a 4 point harness you can't scrunch down out of the way when the roof collapses. That's why if you do racing harnesses you should at least get a main hoop or a 4 pt. cage or something to protect your noggin if (god forbid) you decide people need to see the underside of your car




As for the question from the OP, you can get a lot of good cages from MM with a lot of differnt options. If you don't care if it's track approved, you can get a lot of the "inconvenient" parts of a cage to be removeable. Like the door bars and cross bar and stuff like that. I have a rear seat delete and just use my back seat to store crap (way too much crap at the momemt) so the cross bar and harness bar wouldn't matter, but swing out door bars would be nice. If I win the lottery or Pitt gives me a bunch of money, I'd do a six point MM rollcage with swing out/removeable door bars.

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Didnt say it was safe...just that they look nice


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Didnt say it was safe...just that they look nice
A harness with just a harness bar is safer than a regular seatbelt in basically every situation except a rollover. I'm not saying the roof would automatically crush your head, I just know that when I rolled a car back in the day I was damn lucky because the roof crunched down to about mid-headrest.

With my racing seats and regular seat belt, I'm not moving laterally. The only direction I can move in those seats is forward, and that's what the seatbelt is for in an accident.

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