Infamous Lincoln Mark VIII engine swap thread.

BaznastyDave · November 4th, 2010, 12:32 AM

Whats the HP,TQ, and Liter difference between it and a 4.6 2V?

WhiteVenom · November 4th, 2010, 01:32 AM

Originally Posted by BaznastyDave

Whats the HP,TQ, and Liter difference between it and a 4.6 2V?

there isnt a liter difference..... There both 4.6L motors..The mark is 4v instead of 2v obviously. Ive read that with a tune,cai, exhaust and the cobra intake you can make like 300rwhp which is equal to a full bolt (possibly with cams) on GT

86er · November 4th, 2010, 01:34 AM

Originally Posted by WhiteVenom

there isnt a liter difference..... There both 4.6L motors..The mark is 4v instead of 2v obviously. Ive read that with a tune,cai, exhaust and the cobra intake you can make like 300rwhp which is equal to a full bolt on GT

you'd have to jump into cams and prob/maybe long tubes to get 300 in a 2v, I may be the only who thinks cams arent bolt ons, a little more involving job

UnixHH · November 4th, 2010, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by 86er

you'd have to jump into cams and prob/maybe long tubes to get 300 in a 2v, I may be the only who thinks cams arent bolt ons, a little more involving job

well you do "bolt" them on......

WhiteVenom · November 4th, 2010, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by 86er

you'd have to jump into cams and prob/maybe long tubes to get 300 in a 2v, I may be the only who thinks cams arent bolt ons, a little more involving job

I dont think there bolt ons either..

My personal deff of bolt on:

Any modification you can do without taking apart the motor..

UnixHH · November 4th, 2010, 01:37 AM

i dont think longtubes/shorties should be considered bolt ons. thats alot of fucking work for a "bolt on"

86er · November 4th, 2010, 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by UnixHH

well you do "bolt" them on......

fair enough, lol

86er · November 4th, 2010, 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by UnixHH

i dont think longtubes/shorties should be considered bolt ons. thats alot of fucking work for a "bolt on"

pussy, 3-4hrs and im done lol. Man up

UnixHH · November 4th, 2010, 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by 86er

pussy, 3-4hrs and im done lol. Man up

thats how long it takes me to to a set of cams!

ok maybe 5-6 hours

86er · November 4th, 2010, 02:17 AM

i got a few nice ford tools that make cam swaps a cake walk, timing cover stays on and everything. So nice workin on these cars with the Ford tools. Not that theres a tool for the long tubes, thats just experience. Can have the subframe down and out in like 30 min.

I should whore up craigslist offering installs, I think im onto something lol

UnixHH · November 4th, 2010, 02:24 AM

does that tool only work with romeo's? it holds the chain and the cam gear right. the windsor gear doesn't unbolt lol

T-Lee. 30 · November 4th, 2010, 05:39 AM

Originally Posted by BaznastyDave

Whats the HP,TQ, and Liter difference between it and a 4.6 2V?

99-04 gt 2v 260hp 302ft lb 97-98 mark viii 280hp base 290hp lsc 285ft lb base 290ft lb lsc. the exhaust setup on the lsc is suppose to be the reason for the extra bump in hp.

02trueblueGT · November 4th, 2010, 06:43 AM

Looks sweet! I always wanted to do this swap on my 95 6er.

86er · November 4th, 2010, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by UnixHH

does that tool only work with romeo's? it holds the chain and the cam gear right. the windsor gear doesn't unbolt lol

One tool bolts to the timing cover and holds the cam gear still while you break the bolt loose(when needed). The other tool goes down into the timing cover and opens the tensioner so you can take the chain off the cam with the timing cover on.

aluv4speed · November 4th, 2010, 11:33 AM

Nice job man! Looks nice!

CSTANG01 · November 4th, 2010, 01:04 PM

More...more....some more>>>

kyle2002stang! · November 4th, 2010, 01:14 PM

how diffucult would it be to convert it over to a return style fuel system?
i thought the B heads were good for boosted cars, and with a port job they should flow like a MOFO right?

DickH · November 4th, 2010, 01:23 PM

B heads have a lot of port volume on the intake side, and you should be really careful as far as porting goes. C heads > B heads in the normal rpm range that your car is likely to see. It takes a lot of boost or rpms before the B heads extra port volume starts helping instead of hurting.

LGHTNG02GT · November 4th, 2010, 03:05 PM

Thank You EVERYONE!!!

keep the comments comming lol.
i say we bump this thread until it gets stickied too

or at least until it gets put into a How-To or something.

to answer some of the questions in here.

the Mark motor has the same exhaust cams as the 96-98 Cobra's. the difference in the two motors is the intake cams. the Cobras are more aggressive and make great top end power. the Mark is aimed more at low end. they have basically the same cam specs as the 03/04 cobras actually if i remember correctly. with a short runner intake on an ALL STOCK mark motor (heads/cams) i should break the 300rwhp mark. most people average right around 300-304. with 96-98 Cobra intake cams i would be right around 315-320rwhp but i must admit i'm a little freightened to do cams in a 4v lol.

and about everyone who asked about sound clips/videos. i dont have any YET but next spring i do plan to get track times and videos to go with everything. I'm running those FRPP headers/Mac off-road H/Flow 40's and it sounds SICKKK

ZenMGT · November 4th, 2010, 03:12 PM

one more vote to sticky this thread!

November 4th, 2010, 12:32 AM	#21
BaznastyDave MM Fanatic 2004 Mustang Join Date: May 2010 Location: NC Posts: 4,335 iTrader: 4 reviews	Whats the HP,TQ, and Liter difference between it and a 4.6 2V? __________________ 305/333 WHP/WTQ with CMS Stage II cams 440/552 WHP/WTQ on Spray 7.86 @ 89.1mph, 1.61 60 foot N/A 7.20 @ 98.8MPH 1.55 60 foot on spray Stock Longblock with Cams

November 4th, 2010, 01:37 AM	#26
UnixHH MM Fanatic 2003 Saleen S281 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 4,274 iTrader: 0 reviews	i dont think longtubes/shorties should be considered bolt ons. thats alot of fucking work for a "bolt on" __________________ 480RWHP 450RWTQ 15psi @ 15* on 91 octane

November 4th, 2010, 02:17 AM	#30
86er I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 7,626 iTrader: 0 reviews	i got a few nice ford tools that make cam swaps a cake walk, timing cover stays on and everything. So nice workin on these cars with the Ford tools. Not that theres a tool for the long tubes, thats just experience. Can have the subframe down and out in like 30 min. I should whore up craigslist offering installs, I think im onto something lol __________________ Just a truck 5.4 3v: 264hp 317ft lbs rock stock The "search" button, its not just for porn piecing together the next project faster than your first sexual experience

November 4th, 2010, 02:24 AM	#31
UnixHH MM Fanatic 2003 Saleen S281 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 4,274 iTrader: 0 reviews	does that tool only work with romeo's? it holds the chain and the cam gear right. the windsor gear doesn't unbolt lol __________________ 480RWHP 450RWTQ 15psi @ 15* on 91 octane

November 4th, 2010, 06:43 AM	#33
02trueblueGT Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT n/a Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 945 iTrader: 0 reviews	Looks sweet! I always wanted to do this swap on my 95 6er. __________________ TRUE BLUE CREW MEMBER #4

November 4th, 2010, 11:33 AM	#35
aluv4speed Enthusiast 2002 Mustagg GT 1/4 - We'll see soon Join Date: May 2010 Location: West Burbs Chicago IL Posts: 842 iTrader: 0 reviews	Nice job man! Looks nice! __________________ " Drive Fast - Take Risks " LawlessRebel SOLD - My 02 Supercharged. Got a 95 5.0 for a few weeks till I sell or trade it!

November 4th, 2010, 01:04 PM	#36
CSTANG01 Regular 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wallingford Ct. Posts: 60 iTrader: 0 reviews	More...more....some more>>>

November 4th, 2010, 01:14 PM	#37
kyle2002stang! I'm going On A Manhunt! 2002 true blue GT speed of time @ 88mph Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: 55 miles west of Aberdeen SD Posts: 2,351 iTrader: 0 reviews	how diffucult would it be to convert it over to a return style fuel system? i thought the B heads were good for boosted cars, and with a port job they should flow like a MOFO right? __________________ mac lt's, mac O/R H pipe, spintech super prostreets, JLT RAI, 14"antenna, mach 1 chin spoiler, two 12" kickers.

November 4th, 2010, 01:23 PM	#38
DickH MM Fanatic 2003 gt 5.4 32v on the way Join Date: May 2007 Location: Omaha Posts: 4,191 iTrader: 2 reviews	B heads have a lot of port volume on the intake side, and you should be really careful as far as porting goes. C heads > B heads in the normal rpm range that your car is likely to see. It takes a lot of boost or rpms before the B heads extra port volume starts helping instead of hurting. __________________ 2003 Mustang gt - usual mods - slowly working on 5.4 swap 2004 srt4 - Stock DD/winter beater Click here for your tuning needs Before asking a gearing related question click THIS link and enjoy all your saved time.

November 4th, 2010, 03:05 PM	#39
LGHTNG02GT Hardcore Enthusiast 4V swapped '02 GT (2v) 13.9@101 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: H~Town, PA Posts: 1,756 iTrader: 10 reviews	Thank You EVERYONE!!! keep the comments comming lol. i say we bump this thread until it gets stickied too or at least until it gets put into a How-To or something. to answer some of the questions in here. the Mark motor has the same exhaust cams as the 96-98 Cobra's. the difference in the two motors is the intake cams. the Cobras are more aggressive and make great top end power. the Mark is aimed more at low end. they have basically the same cam specs as the 03/04 cobras actually if i remember correctly. with a short runner intake on an ALL STOCK mark motor (heads/cams) i should break the 300rwhp mark. most people average right around 300-304. with 96-98 Cobra intake cams i would be right around 315-320rwhp but i must admit i'm a little freightened to do cams in a 4v lol. and about everyone who asked about sound clips/videos. i dont have any YET but next spring i do plan to get track times and videos to go with everything. I'm running those FRPP headers/Mac off-road H/Flow 40's and it sounds SICKKK __________________ BSD 100MPH Club YMR #8975 4v Swap and a little Purple Bottle MM Nitrous Club #7 MM Cobra Club #87

November 4th, 2010, 03:12 PM	#40
ZenMGT Hardcore Enthusiast '02 GT 5spd Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Boca Posts: 1,133 iTrader: 1 reviews	one more vote to sticky this thread! __________________ boringly stock........but running well

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