[stal94gt]

Originally Posted by BLOCKBURNER 14 psi is sitting pretty on 507 all day long. so i believe i can hit my mark if not get close and that is just with the 2.1

you shrink your pulley down to much you will get belt slip. i would swap cranks to a iw 7.5 inch and an 8 rib for that kind of boost

[tnole23]

Originally Posted by stal94gt the 90mm in a 3 inch housing runs out of range real early mine pegged at 490 rwhp. the 80mm has more range in a smaller pipe but it only bought me a little head room. got my mafia on 4 and im still seeing 1000+ counts depending on the day. peg is 1024 btw. i peg at the top now. i may still have to run a mafia with the ba 5000 in a 3 inch housing its supposed to be good to 600 rwhp but my car is real boost dependant so i run a decent amount

a 5000? aren't the 3000 good to like 740rwhp on fi applications? what are you shooting for?

[stal94gt]

Originally Posted by tnole23 a 5000? aren't the 3000 good to like 740rwhp on fi applications? what are you shooting for?

ba 3000 is a tonsil style maf which does not perform very well in a blow threw setup. they have decent range but not a very clear resolution. causes low speed fuel problems. also if you shrink the housing the range gets cut down by alot

[tnole23]

Originally Posted by stal94gt ba 3000 is a tonsil style maf which does not perform very well in a blow threw setup. they have decent range but not a very clear resolution. causes low speed fuel problems. also if you shrink the housing the range gets cut down by alot

so the 5000 uses the slot style?

[BLOCKBURNER]

Originally Posted by stal94gt you shrink your pulley down to much you will get belt slip. i would swap cranks to a iw 7.5 inch and an 8 rib for that kind of boost

believe me when i get to that mark i will be asking questions.there is a guy on our forum who is a regular that runs the setup that i am interested in. cant think of his name but he has a grey car with a transformer emblem...turbot4

[stal94gt]

you got a good setup but i would do more research. i have over 20 hrs on the dyno with the 2 lightning mafs, and the ba 2800 on my car. the 2800 had alot of range bad resolution plus i needed it for the lightning. the 90mm maf in blow threw was the worst of all with bad range and ok resolution, and the 80mm lightning maf did ok with decent range and decent resolution. best bang for the buck maf is the ba 5000 which is good in a 3" housing to about 600 rwhp. which is real close to my mark. but that is why i have a mafia. the resolution on a slot style maf gets better in a smaller housing even though range is lost. its hands down the best maf on the marked along side the hpx but that is made by pmas and i have had issues with their cosumer service in the past

[stal94gt]

Originally Posted by BLOCKBURNER believe me when i get to that mark i will be asking questions.there is a guy on our forum who is a regular that runs the setup that i am interested in. cant think of his name but he has a grey car with a transformer emblem...turbot4

i know who your talking about he can give you more info than i can but what i do know is the twin screws are not a very efficent blower and they carry alot of momentum which will require decent belt traction. in high boost aplications you will need an 8 rib setup and probably a billet flow pulley. or you can go with an over size crank with an 8 rib setup and eat less belts

[tnole23]

Originally Posted by stal94gt you got a good setup but i would do more research. i have over 20 hrs on the dyno with the 2 lightning mafs, and the ba 2800 on my car. the 2800 had alot of range bad resolution plus i needed it for the lightning. the 90mm maf in blow threw was the worst of all with bad range and ok resolution, and the 80mm lightning maf did ok with decent range and decent resolution. best bang for the buck maf is the ba 5000 which is good in a 3" housing to about 600 rwhp. which is real close to my mark. but that is why i have a mafia. the resolution on a slot style maf gets better in a smaller housing even though range is lost. its hands down the best maf on the marked along side the hpx but that is made by pmas and i have had issues with their cosumer service in the past

i think it's the resolution you speak of is why when i first had procharger put on he didn't use lightning maf. he just added mafia to stock maf saying the 90mm maf made turbulance and weird reading at low flow. that what you mean by resolution? i'd rather just swap the little finger thing in the maf with one that handles more hp and still use stock housing, and use mafia if needed. but i'm not sure that set up is possible.

[stal94gt]

yes the turbulence is resolution. when you see the graph it looks choppy and that messes with fuel trims. if you want to stick with tonsil style maf you should go with pmas, just make sure they give you a calibration card for your tuner. most people will sell them used calibrated for lots of setups but i dont recommend buying it that way. for the money i would still go slot style hpx or ba 5000, your tuner will love you for it

[BLOCKBURNER]

Originally Posted by stal94gt i know who your talking about he can give you more info than i can but what i do know is the twin screws are not a very efficent blower and they carry alot of momentum which will require decent belt traction. in high boost aplications you will need an 8 rib setup and probably a billet flow pulley. or you can go with an over size crank with an 8 rib setup and eat less belts

well i appreciate your info. you and tn have fun with the jacking lol

[tnole23]

Originally Posted by stal94gt yes the turbulence is resolution. when you see the graph it looks choppy and that messes with fuel trims. if you want to stick with tonsil style maf you should go with pmas, just make sure they give you a calibration card for your tuner. most people will sell them used calibrated for lots of setups but i dont recommend buying it that way. for the money i would still go slot style hpx or ba 5000, your tuner will love you for it

what housing is the 5000? i saw the 3000 needs some adapter to connect to the intake piping, but i've never seen such an adapter for sale anywhere.

[stal94gt]

sorry to jack your thread, i tried to go back and answer your q's the best i could. your still a little wishy washy and to help things i will throw something at you, call tork tech and buy a tuner intercooled manifold kit for the m112 sc. then call kb up and throw a kb 2.8 on top. since it uses a piggy back pulley setup your set with 8 rib and can run a huge metco lower pulley on the bottom. that is your big hp setup right there.

[tnole23]

Originally Posted by BLOCKBURNER well i appreciate your info. you and tn have fun with the jacking lol

sorry dude.

get nitrous.

[stal94gt]

VMP Tuning - Buy Ford SCT & GM Custom Handheld Flash Tuners Performance Economy Towing: VMP Blow-through 75MM MAF housing and SCT BA5000 MAF sensor

or you can buy a weld on flange and the sensor and install it directly to your pipe

[tnole23]

Originally Posted by stal94gt VMP Tuning - Buy Ford SCT & GM Custom Handheld Flash Tuners Performance Economy Towing: VMP Blow-through 75MM MAF housing and SCT BA5000 MAF sensor or you can buy a weld on flange and the sensor and install it directly to your pipe

ooh i like that. the sensor mounted in a pipe that matches the rest of the piping. should couple up nicely. not too expensive either. sweet.

[stal94gt]

you can run that or hpx both good units. they both use the same starter tune and are pretty much the same maf. the only reason i want to go with sct is if there is a problem with the calibration sct is way easier to get ahold of than pmas.

[tnole23]

Originally Posted by stal94gt you can run that or hpx both good units. they both use the same starter tune and are pretty much the same maf. the only reason i want to go with sct is if there is a problem with the calibration sct is way easier to get ahold of than pmas.

not sure how that 8" tube it mounts in will fit in my piping though. in any case, i don't need it just yet and will deal with that and make it work when i need to.

[stal94gt]

glad to help you out man. its a pain to do setup changes but in the end its the better way to go. i got tired of trying to mess with the tonsil style mafs. the only other change is the pig tial off your maf but they sell those for 35 dollars. its worth it, trust me. my tuner is a good guy, he showed me his car on the dyno the diff in resolution betweent the 2 mafs and it was night and day. most people take there cars in to get tuned and never get told any thing but numbers. i go in and get showed spread sheets of everything going on. thats how i pick my parts, fix problems