post up dyno sheet of a kb 2.1L please

stal94gt · November 16th, 2010, 07:44 PM

im trying to compair the diff between centri sc 2v mustang making mid 500's to a mid 500 hp kb setup

BakerFX4 · November 16th, 2010, 07:52 PM

good luck... i dont think there is any 2v KB guys in the 500's.

Only us centri guys!

stal94gt · November 16th, 2010, 08:01 PM

how the hell is that true! i could make a thread on centri dyno sheets making mid 500's and i would get a ton of them in about 2 sec. people keep talking up the kb's power curve and how it is so much better than a centri so i would like to see it for my self. i know a kb 2.1l can make those power levels

WhiteVenom · November 16th, 2010, 08:04 PM

x2 im curious, i know builltt has one in his green stang. He makes like 440rwhp on stock internals.

stal94gt · November 16th, 2010, 08:06 PM

i dont care about stock motor hp levels, that is not a fair comparison. i really want to see what a kb can spit out on full turn

stal94gt · November 16th, 2010, 08:32 PM

im not trying to start a war but people keep saying that centri blowers are crap conpaired to kb's. what a lot of people dont relise is most people with centri's and a stock motor cant spin the sc fast enough to really use the capabilities of the blower. centri style sc love rpm's and produce good numbers once they get a chance to turn. i just want to see how a kb acts once it gets a chance to really spin

FoxHoss · November 16th, 2010, 09:10 PM

i just got mine today! gimme a min ill load it up

FoxHoss · November 16th, 2010, 09:19 PM

Here it is! its not in the 5 hundo club yet, but hopefully will be soon. pushing 9psi intercooled, stock pump, bap, 36# injectors, CMS stage 3 cams, forged. Spent some time at Dez Racing today and with a little bit of testing found that it was cutting out at high rpm due to fuel issues. seems to be my stock fuel pump cant keep up after 430-440hp. well either way, hope this helps.

with a little bit of fuel and a pulley swap, shootin for 5 hundos

BakerFX4 · November 16th, 2010, 09:24 PM

here is a my sheet with P1sc and 427rwhp to compare to the above KB sheet w/ 420rwhp. P1sc w/ stock motor at the time. 9-10 pounds hp292 cams and some other bs... COMPARE!

BakerFX4 · November 16th, 2010, 09:25 PM

Kb isnt doing much over it. Only in the torque area. Appears that the only difference is the torque at 2500 rpms. Other than that, i dont see the "pd>centri" claim being much of anything.

sharkbait · November 16th, 2010, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by BakerFX4

Kb isnt doing much over it. Only in the torque area.

But torque is what actually matters.

PM Trick Tuners. He personally drives a KB'd GT.

Shaun03GT · November 16th, 2010, 09:30 PM

The only thing really is the direct hit of torque, Other than that I dont think PD blowers are better then Centri. I think some people are Kenne Bell/Whipple nut huggers

sharkbait · November 16th, 2010, 09:31 PM

I think there are to many centri lovers on this forum to be honest.

Shaun03GT · November 16th, 2010, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by sharkbait

But torque is what actually matters.

PM Trick Tuners. He personally drives a KB'd GT.

Why? Horsepower doesnt matter? What pushes you through the air at higher speeds? Horsepower. The HP is in a lot more affect then torque is past 80mph.

And okay? PM Jive pepper hes drives a centri GT making 650+rwhp....so what does that have to do with anything??

sharkbait · November 16th, 2010, 09:33 PM

Horsepower dosnt exist.

Horsepower is, is torque at RPM

HP = 33,000 lb.ft./minute

thereal2v2fear · November 16th, 2010, 09:33 PM

i always thought that root blowers were better then centri?

BakerFX4 · November 16th, 2010, 09:35 PM

who races at 2500rpms? Thats about the only time the kb has more tq over the procharger. What good is that? Dont forget the P1sc is a baby blower!

BakerFX4 · November 16th, 2010, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by thereal2v2fear

i always thought that root blowers were better then centri?

Thats what you hear on forums because kids like the way it squeals like a lil pink piggy! LMAO! While the procharger w/ big red BOV sounds like a jet engine!

Shaun03GT · November 16th, 2010, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by sharkbait

Horsepower dosnt exist.

Horsepower is, is torque at RPM

HP = 33,000 lb.ft./minute

Huh? Horsepower doesnt exist? Torque obviously is what gets you off the line quick. But horsepower is what pushes you through the wind at higher speeds.

Jobra · November 16th, 2010, 09:36 PM

Oh don't I love Torquez. Giggidy!

November 16th, 2010, 07:44 PM	#1
stal94gt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 mustang v6 ;) slow Join Date: May 2010 Location: eglin afb florida Posts: 10,197 iTrader: 2 reviews	post up dyno sheet of a kb 2.1L please im trying to compair the diff between centri sc 2v mustang making mid 500's to a mid 500 hp kb setup

November 16th, 2010, 07:52 PM	#2
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,250 iTrader: 14 reviews	good luck... i dont think there is any 2v KB guys in the 500's. Only us centri guys! __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

November 16th, 2010, 08:04 PM	#4
WhiteVenom MM Fanatic 99 Cobra :p 12.36@119.35 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Lapeer Posts: 4,541 iTrader: 0 reviews	x2 im curious, i know builltt has one in his green stang. He makes like 440rwhp on stock internals. __________________ MM COBRA CLUB #80 SRA SWAP WRITE UP!

November 16th, 2010, 09:10 PM	#7
FoxHoss Enthusiast 02' GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brooklyn, CT Posts: 907 iTrader: 0 reviews	i just got mine today! gimme a min ill load it up __________________ Nitrous is like a hot girl with an STD... you wanna hit it, but your afraid of the consequences 02' GT ~ Twin Screwed 469hp/493tq

November 16th, 2010, 09:19 PM	#8
FoxHoss Enthusiast 02' GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brooklyn, CT Posts: 907 iTrader: 0 reviews	Here it is! its not in the 5 hundo club yet, but hopefully will be soon. pushing 9psi intercooled, stock pump, bap, 36# injectors, CMS stage 3 cams, forged. Spent some time at Dez Racing today and with a little bit of testing found that it was cutting out at high rpm due to fuel issues. seems to be my stock fuel pump cant keep up after 430-440hp. well either way, hope this helps. with a little bit of fuel and a pulley swap, shootin for 5 hundos __________________ Nitrous is like a hot girl with an STD... you wanna hit it, but your afraid of the consequences 02' GT ~ Twin Screwed 469hp/493tq

November 16th, 2010, 08:01 PM	#3
stal94gt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 mustang v6 ;) slow Join Date: May 2010 Location: eglin afb florida Posts: 10,197 iTrader: 2 reviews	how the hell is that true! i could make a thread on centri dyno sheets making mid 500's and i would get a ton of them in about 2 sec. people keep talking up the kb's power curve and how it is so much better than a centri so i would like to see it for my self. i know a kb 2.1l can make those power levels

November 16th, 2010, 08:06 PM	#5
stal94gt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 mustang v6 ;) slow Join Date: May 2010 Location: eglin afb florida Posts: 10,197 iTrader: 2 reviews	i dont care about stock motor hp levels, that is not a fair comparison. i really want to see what a kb can spit out on full turn

November 16th, 2010, 08:32 PM	#6
stal94gt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 mustang v6 ;) slow Join Date: May 2010 Location: eglin afb florida Posts: 10,197 iTrader: 2 reviews	im not trying to start a war but people keep saying that centri blowers are crap conpaired to kb's. what a lot of people dont relise is most people with centri's and a stock motor cant spin the sc fast enough to really use the capabilities of the blower. centri style sc love rpm's and produce good numbers once they get a chance to turn. i just want to see how a kb acts once it gets a chance to really spin

November 16th, 2010, 09:24 PM	#9
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,250 iTrader: 14 reviews	here is a my sheet with P1sc and 427rwhp to compare to the above KB sheet w/ 420rwhp. P1sc w/ stock motor at the time. 9-10 pounds hp292 cams and some other bs... COMPARE! __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

November 16th, 2010, 09:25 PM	#10
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,250 iTrader: 14 reviews	Kb isnt doing much over it. Only in the torque area. Appears that the only difference is the torque at 2500 rpms. Other than that, i dont see the "pd>centri" claim being much of anything. __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!! Last edited by BakerFX4; November 16th, 2010 at 09:30 PM.

November 16th, 2010, 09:30 PM	#12
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,441 iTrader: 12 reviews	The only thing really is the direct hit of torque, Other than that I dont think PD blowers are better then Centri. I think some people are Kenne Bell/Whipple nut huggers __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

November 16th, 2010, 09:31 PM	#13
sharkbait Hooo Ha Ha 1997 Mustang GT 11.65 @ 115 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pasadena MD Posts: 9,743 iTrader: 10 reviews	I think there are to many centri lovers on this forum to be honest. __________________ 410rwhp 520rwtq @ 12.9 psi

November 16th, 2010, 09:33 PM	#15
sharkbait Hooo Ha Ha 1997 Mustang GT 11.65 @ 115 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pasadena MD Posts: 9,743 iTrader: 10 reviews	Horsepower dosnt exist. Horsepower is, is torque at RPM HP = 33,000 lb.ft./minute __________________ 410rwhp 520rwtq @ 12.9 psi

November 16th, 2010, 09:33 PM	#16
thereal2v2fear Enthusiast 2002 11.6@118 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Saginaw, MI Posts: 540 iTrader: 0 reviews	i always thought that root blowers were better then centri? __________________ 02' Mustang\|MMR 4.75L 1000se\|Vortech\|pump gas\|566rwph/511rwtrq.

November 16th, 2010, 09:35 PM	#17
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,250 iTrader: 14 reviews	who races at 2500rpms? Thats about the only time the kb has more tq over the procharger. What good is that? Dont forget the P1sc is a baby blower! __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

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November 16th, 2010, 09:36 PM	#20
Jobra Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Cobra 7.4@97 Eaton Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,124 iTrader: 1 reviews	Oh don't I love Torquez. Giggidy! __________________ NEW NUMBERS: 609/543

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