Heads vs Cams on PD blower

bobz18711 · November 20th, 2010, 09:22 PM

Ok, so I will be coming home fron the Desert with a little spending money. I'm trying to finish up my performance mods, so my question is, I want to make the most out of my MMR 600 with the 2.1 KB SC. I would like to save as much money as possible, are Heads really worth the price tag or should I just go for cams, and what kind?? I plan on just going up to 10-11psi, KB said if I go higer than 11, I will need to run some type of Octane booster, I don't want that. Also if I choose to go with say 10 psi would I need to up the Octane when adding the cams or heads or both??

BakerFX4 · November 20th, 2010, 09:26 PM

cams without a doubt!

"Heads dont do you any good for the fact that you are forcing air throught them anyway" says Tbird!
MUCH LOVE TBIRD!

Really man, if i were you, id do some research on the MPH KB cams. Those would be one of my first choice of cams.

Scott2001GT · November 20th, 2010, 09:28 PM

just do cams IMO.We will make plenty of power like that. But the rest of your money into your suspension.

stal94gt · November 20th, 2010, 09:29 PM

i have ported heads and stock cams. i suck

bobz18711 · November 20th, 2010, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by BakerFX4

cams without a doubt!

"Heads dont do you any good for the fact that you are forcing air throught them anyway" says Tbird!
MUCH LOVE TBIRD!

Really man, if i were you, id do some research on the MPH KB cams. Those would be one of my first choice of cams.

Yes, those were the Cams I was eyeing for a long time, but they don't have a web site anymore, And I know they moved up to the Chicgo area, anyone know if they are still doing those cams, and how to get in contact with them??

BakerFX4 · November 20th, 2010, 09:33 PM

yeah they are still making them and you can still get them... cant think of the shop he is at now though. Itll be just a sec and somebody will post it.

bobz18711 · November 20th, 2010, 09:39 PM

Thanks for the help, also about the octane issue, with 10psi and a set of cams, would I need to run higher than 93??

Scott2001GT · November 20th, 2010, 09:40 PM

you dont have to...ever thought about e85?

BakerFX4 · November 20th, 2010, 09:40 PM

nah

tbirdscwd · November 20th, 2010, 09:42 PM

I agree with baker that cams would be more of an improvement on your setup than adding a set of heads.

Call Tim at Mr. Norm's Garage for a set of his custom KB cams

bobz18711 · November 20th, 2010, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by Scott2001GT

you dont have to...ever thought about e85?

I live in Kentucky, and have not seen any E85 pumps around, so I don't know about that whole situation??

BakerFX4 · November 20th, 2010, 09:43 PM

do a search on e85 and your city and you might have it. I didnt know it but my city does after i did a search.

stal94gt · November 20th, 2010, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by bobz18711

Thanks for the help, also about the octane issue, with 10psi and a set of cams, would I need to run higher than 93??

if your tuner is any good you can run more boost with out an issue, he has to be sure to check the plugs after each pull to make sure the timing mark does not pass the 90 degree on the strap. i dont know where he gets off saying 10# is the limit, he can always back off the timing a hair to keep it safe. im not sure what cr you plan on running but im running 18# pump gas+meth on 9.5 cr just fine. off the meth the timing holds fine at 15 degrees

BakerFX4 · November 20th, 2010, 09:47 PM

bet this is 93 octane....

YouTube - My Kenne Bell 2.6H '02 GT (20 PSI)

bobz18711 · November 20th, 2010, 10:01 PM

Well I guess I will finish my performance with a good set of Cams, going to 10 psi, adding my 90mm MAF, 75 mm TB, JLT intake, Stainless steel springs. Anything else I might need as far as the cams go??

BakerFX4 · November 20th, 2010, 10:03 PM

springs....

EDIT... you might can get away with them. You will have to talk to Tim on that. Reason i say might not have to is because the KB isnt a "higher rpm blower" like a centri so you shouldnt have to rev it out as much. Hell i dunno/

bobz18711 · November 20th, 2010, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by BakerFX4

springs....

EDIT... you might can get away with them. You will have to talk to Tim on that. Reason i say might not have to is because the KB isnt a "higher rpm blower" like a centri so you shouldnt have to rev it out as much. Hell i dunno/

Thanks, I will find out from him on that one, just need to find out how to get ahold of them...

stal94gt · November 20th, 2010, 10:07 PM

as far as building a good set of heads rated to hold down boost i would go with a good set of high load springs just in case you plan on turning up the boost. also replace the valve seals, BRONZE GUIDES! timeserts, titanium locks and retainers.

BakerFX4 · November 20th, 2010, 10:08 PM

he is now at MR. NORMS GARAGE

tbirdscwd · November 20th, 2010, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by BakerFX4

springs....

EDIT... you might can get away with them. You will have to talk to Tim on that. Reason i say might not have to is because the KB isnt a "higher rpm blower" like a centri so you shouldnt have to rev it out as much. Hell i dunno/

I agree that Tim would be the guy to talk to about whether or not his KB grind requires aftermarket springs.

November 20th, 2010, 09:22 PM	#1
bobz18711 Regular 2001 Mustang GT TBD Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: E-town KY Posts: 85 iTrader: 0 reviews	Heads vs Cams on PD blower Ok, so I will be coming home fron the Desert with a little spending money. I'm trying to finish up my performance mods, so my question is, I want to make the most out of my MMR 600 with the 2.1 KB SC. I would like to save as much money as possible, are Heads really worth the price tag or should I just go for cams, and what kind?? I plan on just going up to 10-11psi, KB said if I go higer than 11, I will need to run some type of Octane booster, I don't want that. Also if I choose to go with say 10 psi would I need to up the Octane when adding the cams or heads or both?? __________________ 01 GT with 2.1 Kenne Bell, MMR 600 Aluminum Block, 4:10's, Dyno done 2/27/2012: 404RWHP

November 20th, 2010, 09:26 PM	#2
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,250 iTrader: 14 reviews	cams without a doubt! "Heads dont do you any good for the fact that you are forcing air throught them anyway" says Tbird! MUCH LOVE TBIRD! Really man, if i were you, id do some research on the MPH KB cams. Those would be one of my first choice of cams. __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

November 20th, 2010, 09:28 PM	#3
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	just do cams IMO.We will make plenty of power like that. But the rest of your money into your suspension. __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

November 20th, 2010, 09:33 PM	#6
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,250 iTrader: 14 reviews	yeah they are still making them and you can still get them... cant think of the shop he is at now though. Itll be just a sec and somebody will post it. __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

November 20th, 2010, 09:39 PM	#7
bobz18711 Regular 2001 Mustang GT TBD Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: E-town KY Posts: 85 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks for the help, also about the octane issue, with 10psi and a set of cams, would I need to run higher than 93?? __________________ 01 GT with 2.1 Kenne Bell, MMR 600 Aluminum Block, 4:10's, Dyno done 2/27/2012: 404RWHP

November 20th, 2010, 09:29 PM	#4
stal94gt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 mustang v6 ;) slow Join Date: May 2010 Location: eglin afb florida Posts: 10,197 iTrader: 2 reviews	i have ported heads and stock cams. i suck

November 20th, 2010, 09:40 PM	#8
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	you dont have to...ever thought about e85? __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

November 20th, 2010, 09:40 PM	#9
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,250 iTrader: 14 reviews	nah __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

November 20th, 2010, 09:42 PM	#10
tbirdscwd MM Fanatic 2004 Mustang GT 12.88 @ 109.45 N/A Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Davis, CA Posts: 3,417 iTrader: -1 reviews	I agree with baker that cams would be more of an improvement on your setup than adding a set of heads. Call Tim at Mr. Norm's Garage for a set of his custom KB cams __________________ Fun: 2004 Mustang GT DD: 1994 Ram 2500 Cummins 4x4 Borla "Stinger" Exhaust Vids

November 20th, 2010, 09:43 PM	#12
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,250 iTrader: 14 reviews	do a search on e85 and your city and you might have it. I didnt know it but my city does after i did a search. __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

November 20th, 2010, 10:01 PM	#15
bobz18711 Regular 2001 Mustang GT TBD Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: E-town KY Posts: 85 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well I guess I will finish my performance with a good set of Cams, going to 10 psi, adding my 90mm MAF, 75 mm TB, JLT intake, Stainless steel springs. Anything else I might need as far as the cams go?? __________________ 01 GT with 2.1 Kenne Bell, MMR 600 Aluminum Block, 4:10's, Dyno done 2/27/2012: 404RWHP

November 20th, 2010, 10:03 PM	#16
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,250 iTrader: 14 reviews	springs.... EDIT... you might can get away with them. You will have to talk to Tim on that. Reason i say might not have to is because the KB isnt a "higher rpm blower" like a centri so you shouldnt have to rev it out as much. Hell i dunno/ __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

November 20th, 2010, 10:07 PM	#18
stal94gt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 mustang v6 ;) slow Join Date: May 2010 Location: eglin afb florida Posts: 10,197 iTrader: 2 reviews	as far as building a good set of heads rated to hold down boost i would go with a good set of high load springs just in case you plan on turning up the boost. also replace the valve seals, BRONZE GUIDES! timeserts, titanium locks and retainers.

November 20th, 2010, 10:08 PM	#19
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,250 iTrader: 14 reviews	he is now at MR. NORMS GARAGE __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

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