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Modification advice
Hey peoples, so for those of you who know me... ive practically destroyed my old motor (by accident) so now i want some advice...
im still going 4.6 SOHC because its cheaper, easier, and VIN matching My questions pertain mainly to supercharging this new motor.... I have heard that a relatively low boost charger will work with the stock components so i need to know which one to buy (i would love a kenne bell but i dunno if there is another thats better budgeted for decent power gains) Will my automatic tranny house this power if i plan on staying under 500RWHP Will the stock exhaust manifolds be enough if i have an open/low restriction exhaust or will i need long tubes any other details modifications i may need to know before doing this (im having a reputable shop that specializes in superchargers do this i just dont want them to try and get more money out of me for something i wont really use)
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Outlaw motorsports has a brand new custom bent turbo system for our edge cars for 2600.00 bucks. All in. If shawn03gt is still selling his it's a great deal too... General consensus is 450 on stock internals and the tranny should hold up
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The turbo from outlaw eliminates exhaust issues. It's a great deal. I saw them in corral in power adders for sale
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Yea that sounds good but i really wanted a centrifugal in-lieu of a turbo ssystem.... like i said if theres not too much price difference ill just get the kenne bell 2.1 my buds have had good luck with it they run about 9 psi and run right at 427hp
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Turbo is more efficient because it uses the exhaust to spin it not the crank which will result in parasitic loss. But the kenne bell is a beautiful unit. And honestly boost is boost and you are gonna love every minute driving with it. Happy shopping and merry Christmas
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i appreciate your help but imma leave this thread open for a few days as this swap wont take place for another month or two at least (gotta file taxes and make sure i dont owe before spending my money)
maybe ill get lucky and get a return to do this XD (crosses fingers)
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Well there alot of guys running alot of different things so you are gonna get alot of different reviews. I love that part about these forums. You learn so much from guys who use all different stuff and tried diffent stuff and set-ups so you learn from their successes and failures. I am sure no matter what you choose it will be an awesome addition to your mustang. I wish I could afford one. I have nitrous but it isn't the same. Having that power right there every time you push the pedal is f%€kin awesome. I am gonna build a turbo 5.4 4v to put in my next one when I give this one to the boy...... Minus the bottle hehehe. Anyways a kenne bell is a great pump. I like that it's right on top with nontubing leaving a clean engine bay. But the procharger has such an awesome whine when it's spinning it will be tough to choose cause they are all great. Shawn03gt is selling his that's still on car for a sweet price with EVERYTHING dude it's a straight bolt in. And he is very knowledgeable when it comes to boost so just pm him and he can give you actual real world numbers. He is usually friendly so just pm him. Happy holidays
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Not to thread jack but does anyone have the contact details for anyone at Outlaw?
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Here is the link to the forum where I found it: For Sale Turbo Hot side for 99-04 2V Mod Motor - Corral.net : Ford Mustang Forums I hope this helps! Merry Christmas!
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I understand your reasoning for wanting to stay with a SOHC, but if you need a new motor why not upgrade?
But with a built SOHC and some boost you can see 500hp no problem. but you will need a fordged bottom end for anything over 425rwhp. Anything more on a stock bottom end is asking for another motor,
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The previously stated "safe" 450 rwhp number is at the crank not the wheels. General consensus around here is to not go above 400 rwhp on boost alone (manual transmission). That converts to around 360-370 rwhp for automatics on completely stock motors. I know of two motors that blew at 13 psi (approx. 413 rwhp) and two others that blew at 14 psi (approx. 430 rwhp).
On stock internals you should not go above 8-10 psi of boost. Through an automatic that will give you around 335-360 rwhp. The transmission and rest of the drive train should hold up fine as long as you run street tires. Drag radials and slicks on the track are hard on the 28 spline rear end. But automatics are easier on the drive train and take a lot of that risk out. You really need other supporting mods if you want to go higher. Exhaust, cams, heads, electric water pump, aluminum driveshaft, etc. Resist the temptation to just crank up the boost. Despite its looks, the stock exhaust is not all that restrictive. It's the cats that are the problem. I not sure what the inspections are like in Oklahoma but you might be able to get away with using an off-road mid pipe. It really frees up the exhaust and has been noted to give you around 10 rwhp. Some say more. I've been running 8.9 psi for over 3 1/2 years and 65,000 miles without any problems. If you don't get greedy you'll be OK.
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just put a 100 shot on it, change the plugs and have a shit eatin grin all day long
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Im w 86er. Or buy shauns kit! End of story. Fuck letting a shop rape ur ass!!!
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