mach 1 or gt 4v?

xsoulscarz53x · January 20th, 2011, 08:50 AM

was thinking about getting a gt and if i wanted to make it faster i would make it 4v. Got a couple questions about this besides the fact that the mach one has 3.55 on the rear end and the gts dont would a gt 4v and mach 1 4v be equal in a race? also anyone know how much it would cost including labor so i can see if i should just buy a mach 1 from the start? and last question would the rev limiter go up on the gt if you make it 4v like the mach 1?

mtucker · January 20th, 2011, 09:06 AM

Willy Mo · January 20th, 2011, 09:41 AM

First of all ^^WTF^^

It all depends on what 4v set up youd go with. cobra heads, cams and intake? or mark VIII, or mach 1 heads, cams, ect.

If your goal is a 4v either way, just buy a mach. Then you dont have to do any work swapping top ends, or engines for that matter.

braupe · January 20th, 2011, 10:01 AM

+1 to Willy.

As far as the rev limiter, it can/will be pushed up after you get the gt re tuned for the 4v motor. If you can't afford a Mach you can always get a cheap gt and swap in a Lincoln Mark 8 motor for cheap if you can do the labor. But like Willy said, go for the Mach if you can afford it. Or hell a Cobra if you are in that price range.

xsoulscarz53x · January 20th, 2011, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by braupe

+1 to Willy.

As far as the rev limiter, it can/will be pushed up after you get the gt re tuned for the 4v motor. If you can't afford a Mach you can always get a cheap gt and swap in a Lincoln Mark 8 motor for cheap if you can do the labor. But like Willy said, go for the Mach if you can afford it. Or hell a Cobra if you are in that price range.

yeah but the cobras have irs which isnt to great for drag but they do have that 6 speed and tough motor...idk still thining

Shaun03GT · January 20th, 2011, 10:32 AM

Get a Mach 1. Much better car stock for stock. And will hold value a lot more. Bone stock they run low 13's. My dads bone stock was running 13.2 @ 105mph.

Mach 1's look a lot better, seats are 10x better, handling is better, brakes are better etc... The 5 speeds also have a steel crank, and rev to 6800 rpm.

sl04gt · January 20th, 2011, 10:40 AM

yea the mach is better overall but the gt has potential too just depends on what you want...get the mach lol

mell0 · January 20th, 2011, 10:51 AM

machs also have an aluminum block which weighs approximately 80 pounds less than the GT's iron block.

braupe · January 20th, 2011, 10:54 AM

Yea Mach over Gt if you have the option. No doubt.

And if you get a cobra and don't like the IRS, let me know and Ill trade you lol.

cbjohnson9 · January 20th, 2011, 10:57 AM

If you plan on boosting later on down the road, I believe the mach's came with higher CR...like 11:1. Just something to keep in mind.

JM0523 · January 20th, 2011, 11:27 AM

Get a Saleen or Cobra

Willy Mo · January 20th, 2011, 11:32 AM

If you can afford a low mileage gt you should be able to find a decent mach. Much better starting platform.

TRMach1 · January 20th, 2011, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by cbjohnson9

If you plan on boosting later on down the road, I believe the mach's came with higher CR...like 11:1. Just something to keep in mind.

No, 10.1:1 is the stock CR on a Mach 1. And they can handle a reasonable amount of boost, like in the 8-9psi range. However, they do take real nicely to giggle gas in the form of a 75-125shot!

cbjohnson9 · January 20th, 2011, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by TRMach1

No, 10.1:1 is the stock CR on a Mach 1. And they can handle a reasonable amount of boost, like in the 8-9psi range. However, they do take real nicely to giggle gas in the form of a 75-125shot!

Thanks for the correction. I wasn't quite sure on the actual number.

DickH · January 20th, 2011, 02:13 PM

if you just want to buy a decent car, get the mach, if you want a project, get a fox. The mach is a nice car and has plenty of room to grow, the gt will require that you do a lot of work to it after you buy it just to put it even with a stock mach.

Scott2001GT · January 20th, 2011, 02:52 PM

is it weird that I'd perfer a Mach1 over a 03/04 termi?

Willy Mo · January 20th, 2011, 03:12 PM

^ kinda lol. although if the mach had the cobras internals It would be my choice for shure!

Scott2001GT · January 20th, 2011, 03:29 PM

yeah but. but get a Mach1. You bave a SRA, Alum block, 4v, good intake to port, nice interoir, exterior, and in the 5 speed a forged crank and the auto is a 4r75w. So easy to mod up nicely. Get the auto and a forged crank, h beams, and better pistons. since the termi pistons and the weak part. Do the same dish for high CR and boost the shit out of it! And no one will think it's fast but it will be faster then a termi with just weight alone.

braupe · January 20th, 2011, 05:43 PM

I hear ya. I would prefer a a clean Mach over a not quite as clean cobra. Also everyone expects a cobra to be fast. Alot of Machs are about as slow as gt's. (w/o the drive mod that is.)

A mach with a good driver is pretty decent.

therat1989 · January 20th, 2011, 06:43 PM

I see it like this. I have a GT because I can make it run good and look good for less money than a Mach. Granted if I had the money I would have a Mach 1. I say get the Mach 1 if you can get one for a cheaper amount of money. and if you are worried about the IRS in the Cobra you can always switch that out.

January 20th, 2011, 08:50 AM	#1
xsoulscarz53x Regular 2000 Mustang V6 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 54 iTrader: 0 reviews	mach 1 or gt 4v? was thinking about getting a gt and if i wanted to make it faster i would make it 4v. Got a couple questions about this besides the fact that the mach one has 3.55 on the rear end and the gts dont would a gt 4v and mach 1 4v be equal in a race? also anyone know how much it would cost including labor so i can see if i should just buy a mach 1 from the start? and last question would the rev limiter go up on the gt if you make it 4v like the mach 1?

January 20th, 2011, 09:41 AM	#3
Willy Mo MM Fanatic 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: MO Posts: 4,368 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 2 reviews	First of all ^^WTF^^ It all depends on what 4v set up youd go with. cobra heads, cams and intake? or mark VIII, or mach 1 heads, cams, ect. If your goal is a 4v either way, just buy a mach. Then you dont have to do any work swapping top ends, or engines for that matter. __________________

January 20th, 2011, 10:01 AM	#4
braupe Resident Diabetic... 06' GT 13.829@103.49 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: DFW-NOLA Posts: 1,338 iTrader: 2 reviews	+1 to Willy. As far as the rev limiter, it can/will be pushed up after you get the gt re tuned for the 4v motor. If you can't afford a Mach you can always get a cheap gt and swap in a Lincoln Mark 8 motor for cheap if you can do the labor. But like Willy said, go for the Mach if you can afford it. Or hell a Cobra if you are in that price range. __________________ 2006 GT-3.55's, Pypes Muffler Delete, PIE Aux Port, GT500 Pedals, Hurst STS, GT500 LCA's, 55D rear springs, FRPP A arm brace, Diablo 93 Tune. motortalkblog.com

January 20th, 2011, 10:32 AM	#6
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,447 iTrader: 12 reviews	Get a Mach 1. Much better car stock for stock. And will hold value a lot more. Bone stock they run low 13's. My dads bone stock was running 13.2 @ 105mph. Mach 1's look a lot better, seats are 10x better, handling is better, brakes are better etc... The 5 speeds also have a steel crank, and rev to 6800 rpm. __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

January 20th, 2011, 10:40 AM	#7
sl04gt Regular 2004 Mustang Gt 13.17@106.7 1.8 60ft Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: AL Posts: 341 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea the mach is better overall but the gt has potential too just depends on what you want...get the mach lol __________________ CRAZY HORSE RACING couple of bolt-ons and bolt-offs

January 20th, 2011, 09:06 AM	#2
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January 20th, 2011, 10:51 AM	#8
mell0 Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Procharged GT, STR 12.503 @ 113.08 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Boxford, MA Posts: 1,873 iTrader: 0 reviews	machs also have an aluminum block which weighs approximately 80 pounds less than the GT's iron block. __________________ 2002 Procharged GT 12.503 @ 113.08 351rwhp 353rwtq Car Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/mell00ut5?feature=mhee

January 20th, 2011, 10:54 AM	#9
braupe Resident Diabetic... 06' GT 13.829@103.49 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: DFW-NOLA Posts: 1,338 iTrader: 2 reviews	Yea Mach over Gt if you have the option. No doubt. And if you get a cobra and don't like the IRS, let me know and Ill trade you lol. __________________ 2006 GT-3.55's, Pypes Muffler Delete, PIE Aux Port, GT500 Pedals, Hurst STS, GT500 LCA's, 55D rear springs, FRPP A arm brace, Diablo 93 Tune. motortalkblog.com

January 20th, 2011, 10:57 AM	#10
cbjohnson9 Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT Vert. Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Kansas City Posts: 860 iTrader: 0 reviews	If you plan on boosting later on down the road, I believe the mach's came with higher CR...like 11:1. Just something to keep in mind.

January 20th, 2011, 11:27 AM	#11
JM0523 Newbie 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Twin Falls ID Posts: 31 iTrader: 0 reviews	Get a Saleen or Cobra __________________ 02 Mustang GT M5- MMS SFC'S, Fidanza Clutch, 3.90's, Accel Coils, C&L Plenum, C&L Tube, Accufab 75mm, K&N, Steeda Tri Axe, X Pipe, Magnapacks, Predator, Venom Nitrous, Eibach Springs, Eibach Shocks, Classic Shaker, 315 Kumho XS.

January 20th, 2011, 11:32 AM	#12
Willy Mo MM Fanatic 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: MO Posts: 4,368 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 2 reviews	If you can afford a low mileage gt you should be able to find a decent mach. Much better starting platform. __________________

January 20th, 2011, 02:13 PM	#15
DickH MM Fanatic 2003 gt 5.4 32v on the way Join Date: May 2007 Location: Omaha Posts: 4,191 iTrader: 2 reviews	if you just want to buy a decent car, get the mach, if you want a project, get a fox. The mach is a nice car and has plenty of room to grow, the gt will require that you do a lot of work to it after you buy it just to put it even with a stock mach. __________________ 2003 Mustang gt - usual mods - slowly working on 5.4 swap 2004 srt4 - Stock DD/winter beater Click here for your tuning needs Before asking a gearing related question click THIS link and enjoy all your saved time.

January 20th, 2011, 02:52 PM	#16
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	is it weird that I'd perfer a Mach1 over a 03/04 termi? __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

January 20th, 2011, 03:12 PM	#17
Willy Mo MM Fanatic 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: MO Posts: 4,368 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 2 reviews	^ kinda lol. although if the mach had the cobras internals It would be my choice for shure! __________________

January 20th, 2011, 03:29 PM	#18
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	yeah but. but get a Mach1. You bave a SRA, Alum block, 4v, good intake to port, nice interoir, exterior, and in the 5 speed a forged crank and the auto is a 4r75w. So easy to mod up nicely. Get the auto and a forged crank, h beams, and better pistons. since the termi pistons and the weak part. Do the same dish for high CR and boost the shit out of it! And no one will think it's fast but it will be faster then a termi with just weight alone. __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

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January 20th, 2011, 05:43 PM	#19
braupe Resident Diabetic... 06' GT 13.829@103.49 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: DFW-NOLA Posts: 1,338 iTrader: 2 reviews	I hear ya. I would prefer a a clean Mach over a not quite as clean cobra. Also everyone expects a cobra to be fast. Alot of Machs are about as slow as gt's. (w/o the drive mod that is.) A mach with a good driver is pretty decent. __________________ 2006 GT-3.55's, Pypes Muffler Delete, PIE Aux Port, GT500 Pedals, Hurst STS, GT500 LCA's, 55D rear springs, FRPP A arm brace, Diablo 93 Tune. motortalkblog.com

January 20th, 2011, 06:43 PM	#20
therat1989 Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 706 iTrader: 0 reviews	I see it like this. I have a GT because I can make it run good and look good for less money than a Mach. Granted if I had the money I would have a Mach 1. I say get the Mach 1 if you can get one for a cheaper amount of money. and if you are worried about the IRS in the Cobra you can always switch that out. __________________ 1/8mile 8.71@80mph on street tires.

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