UPR Coil Over's with Strange Struts, maybe have to modify C/O sleeve?

BaznastyDave · January 20th, 2011, 03:44 PM

Alright i have my UPR K-Member kit and 14" 150LB springs and Strange struts to put in soon. I have a question about the C/O sleeves fitting the Strange struts. In the pictures the sleeve is only touching the strut on the bottom only about 1/2 of an inch. Is this normal or should i cut a small section out of the bottom of the sleeve so it fits down over the raised part of the strut so then the whole bottom of the sleeve will be touching the strut and be evenly dispersing the weight around the sleeve instead of just that 1/2in piece. Should i cut it or is that normal? Seems like if its not cut out it will bend the sleeve where all the weight it on that small piece of the sleeve. Any input?

Also i have the 3 bolt CC shark plates from UPR, will these have enough adjustment to get my alignment back straight or should i swap them out for some 4 bolt plates? I have not used the 3 bolt CC plates yet, there still in the box.

Scott2001GT · January 20th, 2011, 03:49 PM

my strange c/os have a notch cut out for the struts so they don't spin.

zinc-vert02 · January 20th, 2011, 03:52 PM

my coil overs also have a notch in them

cut them mother fuckers lol i would

Scott2001GT · January 20th, 2011, 03:52 PM

Who's using upr coilovers with strange struts - SVTPerformance

Willy Mo · January 20th, 2011, 03:52 PM

My MMR coilover kit had a notch alrady cut out for that. So I would notch it so it slides down all of the way. I have teh MM 4 bolt CC plates. Ive never used 3 bolt ones. Im sure you could get enough adjustment.

BaznastyDave · January 20th, 2011, 03:54 PM

So you guy's sleeves have the notch cut out to fit over the bracket on the strut?

Scott2001GT · January 20th, 2011, 03:54 PM

yes sir. just cut them like that link I sent you from SVTP

BaznastyDave · January 20th, 2011, 03:57 PM

See how the 3 bolts just slide one way and to move it the other way you cant just slide it, you have to move it down to the next bolt hole where as the 4 bolts can slide in a "T" direction.

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BaznastyDave · January 20th, 2011, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by Scott2001GT

yes sir. just cut them like that link I sent you from SVTP

Awsome

thats what il do, i looked at em and was like WTF is this???? I knew it would probably gank up the sleeve as soon as weight was put on it.

zinc-vert02 · January 20th, 2011, 03:58 PM

i thnk youll be good wiht the three bolters

Scott2001GT · January 20th, 2011, 03:58 PM

the 4 bolt looks MUCH nicer. Check out the Team Z 4 bolt

Scott2001GT · January 20th, 2011, 04:01 PM

yeah true. it will chip the sleeve

cbjohnson9 · January 20th, 2011, 04:27 PM

I've been told by multiple suspension techs that you need 4 bolt CC plates to distribute the weight of the vehicle properly for new edge mustangs when running CO's. The triangulation of the 3 bolt plates causes the weight to only be distributed to the 2 outside bolts only. I would highly recommend a good set of 4 bolt CC's.

Willy Mo · January 20th, 2011, 05:28 PM

^ never thought about this but it is a good point.

BaznastyDave · January 20th, 2011, 05:34 PM

Alright il cut that part out of the sleeve and i just got a RMA # and will be sending my 3 bolts back to UPR for some 4 bolts, thanks guys.

BaznastyDave · January 20th, 2011, 05:35 PM

Also anyone else running 14" 150lb springs? If so how low is it and how is the ride?

Scott2001GT · January 20th, 2011, 09:23 PM

14 150 would be to soft for the street lol My suspension guy runs 14 175 on the a low 8 sec car. I have 12 200 that TeamZ uses

mrbigjeep · January 20th, 2011, 09:36 PM

it should already have a notch. thats weird. mine did.

and i don't like my 150's...way to soft. had to raise it up really high to keep the spring from bangin around. weird thing is bullit5539 has the same setup and his doesn't do that. anyway, i'm switching to the 12 250's.

and in my personal opinion you'll be perfectly fine with the 3 bolt plates. jeremy from upr has plenty of people running that setup. and mine are workin just fine..

that being said, the four bolt plates sure won't hurt

cbjohnson9 · January 22nd, 2011, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by mrbigjeep

it should already have a notch. thats weird. mine did.

and i don't like my 150's...way to soft. had to raise it up really high to keep the spring from bangin around. weird thing is bullit5539 has the same setup and his doesn't do that. anyway, i'm switching to the 12 250's.

and in my personal opinion you'll be perfectly fine with the 3 bolt plates. jeremy from upr has plenty of people running that setup. and mine are workin just fine..

that being said, the four bolt plates sure won't hurt

Why would upr develop a set of 4 bolt plates if the 3 bolt plates were sufficient?

It also probably depends on how much stress your putting on them. I'm running 275/12's up front and autocross so the stronger I could make my strut tower, the better. I'm going up to 325's when I switch to a torque arm.

There is a big difference in fox cc's vs New edge cc's. Picture a triangle made by the 3 bolts on the plate. On a fox, the strut pertrudes up within that triangle, distributing the weight into all three bolts. On a new edge, the strut pertrusion lies outside this triangle, causing uneven weight loads. This is why the new edge mustangs require 4 bolt plates for CC's. The strut is enclosed by the bolts and stabilizes load distribution.

Willy Mo · January 22nd, 2011, 10:45 AM

mine are 185/14's work well for me.

January 20th, 2011, 03:44 PM	#1
BaznastyDave MM Fanatic 2004 Mustang Join Date: May 2010 Location: NC Posts: 4,336 iTrader: 4 reviews	UPR Coil Over's with Strange Struts, maybe have to modify C/O sleeve? Alright i have my UPR K-Member kit and 14" 150LB springs and Strange struts to put in soon. I have a question about the C/O sleeves fitting the Strange struts. In the pictures the sleeve is only touching the strut on the bottom only about 1/2 of an inch. Is this normal or should i cut a small section out of the bottom of the sleeve so it fits down over the raised part of the strut so then the whole bottom of the sleeve will be touching the strut and be evenly dispersing the weight around the sleeve instead of just that 1/2in piece. Should i cut it or is that normal? Seems like if its not cut out it will bend the sleeve where all the weight it on that small piece of the sleeve. Any input? Also i have the 3 bolt CC shark plates from UPR, will these have enough adjustment to get my alignment back straight or should i swap them out for some 4 bolt plates? I have not used the 3 bolt CC plates yet, there still in the box. __________________ 305/333 WHP/WTQ with CMS Stage II cams 440/552 WHP/WTQ on Spray 7.86 @ 89.1mph, 1.61 60 foot N/A 7.20 @ 98.8MPH 1.55 60 foot on spray Stock Longblock with Cams

January 20th, 2011, 03:49 PM	#2
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	my strange c/os have a notch cut out for the struts so they don't spin. __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

January 20th, 2011, 03:52 PM	#3
zinc-vert02 Bringing Yellow Back 2002 mustang gt 12.2 at 117 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: WISCONSIN Posts: 9,967 iTrader: 1 reviews	my coil overs also have a notch in them cut them mother fuckers lol i would __________________ SOON TO BE 5.4 3V POWERD WITH A ROUSH CHARGER HELPING IT BAMA Performance Drag Team Member #4

January 20th, 2011, 03:52 PM	#4
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	Who's using upr coilovers with strange struts - SVTPerformance __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

January 20th, 2011, 03:52 PM	#5
Willy Mo MM Fanatic 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: MO Posts: 4,368 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 2 reviews	My MMR coilover kit had a notch alrady cut out for that. So I would notch it so it slides down all of the way. I have teh MM 4 bolt CC plates. Ive never used 3 bolt ones. Im sure you could get enough adjustment. __________________

January 20th, 2011, 03:54 PM	#6
BaznastyDave MM Fanatic 2004 Mustang Join Date: May 2010 Location: NC Posts: 4,336 iTrader: 4 reviews	So you guy's sleeves have the notch cut out to fit over the bracket on the strut? __________________ 305/333 WHP/WTQ with CMS Stage II cams 440/552 WHP/WTQ on Spray 7.86 @ 89.1mph, 1.61 60 foot N/A 7.20 @ 98.8MPH 1.55 60 foot on spray Stock Longblock with Cams

January 20th, 2011, 03:57 PM	#8
BaznastyDave MM Fanatic 2004 Mustang Join Date: May 2010 Location: NC Posts: 4,336 iTrader: 4 reviews	See how the 3 bolts just slide one way and to move it the other way you cant just slide it, you have to move it down to the next bolt hole where as the 4 bolts can slide in a "T" direction. 3 bolt 94-04 Mustang Steel Shark Caster Camber Plates 4 bolt 94-04 Mustang 4 Bolt Caster Camber Kit Black __________________ 305/333 WHP/WTQ with CMS Stage II cams 440/552 WHP/WTQ on Spray 7.86 @ 89.1mph, 1.61 60 foot N/A 7.20 @ 98.8MPH 1.55 60 foot on spray Stock Longblock with Cams

January 20th, 2011, 03:58 PM	#10
zinc-vert02 Bringing Yellow Back 2002 mustang gt 12.2 at 117 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: WISCONSIN Posts: 9,967 iTrader: 1 reviews	i thnk youll be good wiht the three bolters __________________ SOON TO BE 5.4 3V POWERD WITH A ROUSH CHARGER HELPING IT BAMA Performance Drag Team Member #4

January 20th, 2011, 04:01 PM	#12
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	yeah true. it will chip the sleeve __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

January 20th, 2011, 04:27 PM	#13
cbjohnson9 Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT Vert. Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Kansas City Posts: 860 iTrader: 0 reviews	I've been told by multiple suspension techs that you need 4 bolt CC plates to distribute the weight of the vehicle properly for new edge mustangs when running CO's. The triangulation of the 3 bolt plates causes the weight to only be distributed to the 2 outside bolts only. I would highly recommend a good set of 4 bolt CC's.

January 20th, 2011, 05:28 PM	#14
Willy Mo MM Fanatic 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: MO Posts: 4,368 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 2 reviews	^ never thought about this but it is a good point. __________________

January 20th, 2011, 05:34 PM	#15
BaznastyDave MM Fanatic 2004 Mustang Join Date: May 2010 Location: NC Posts: 4,336 iTrader: 4 reviews	Alright il cut that part out of the sleeve and i just got a RMA # and will be sending my 3 bolts back to UPR for some 4 bolts, thanks guys. __________________ 305/333 WHP/WTQ with CMS Stage II cams 440/552 WHP/WTQ on Spray 7.86 @ 89.1mph, 1.61 60 foot N/A 7.20 @ 98.8MPH 1.55 60 foot on spray Stock Longblock with Cams

January 20th, 2011, 05:35 PM	#16
BaznastyDave MM Fanatic 2004 Mustang Join Date: May 2010 Location: NC Posts: 4,336 iTrader: 4 reviews	Also anyone else running 14" 150lb springs? If so how low is it and how is the ride? __________________ 305/333 WHP/WTQ with CMS Stage II cams 440/552 WHP/WTQ on Spray 7.86 @ 89.1mph, 1.61 60 foot N/A 7.20 @ 98.8MPH 1.55 60 foot on spray Stock Longblock with Cams

January 20th, 2011, 09:23 PM	#17
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	14 150 would be to soft for the street lol My suspension guy runs 14 175 on the a low 8 sec car. I have 12 200 that TeamZ uses __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone Last edited by Scott2001GT; January 20th, 2011 at 09:38 PM.

January 20th, 2011, 09:36 PM	#18
mrbigjeep I Post Entirely Way Too Much 04 mustang gt 7.21 @ 98 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: upstate sc Posts: 5,923 iTrader: 1 reviews	it should already have a notch. thats weird. mine did. and i don't like my 150's...way to soft. had to raise it up really high to keep the spring from bangin around. weird thing is bullit5539 has the same setup and his doesn't do that. anyway, i'm switching to the 12 250's. and in my personal opinion you'll be perfectly fine with the 3 bolt plates. jeremy from upr has plenty of people running that setup. and mine are workin just fine.. that being said, the four bolt plates sure won't hurt __________________ cams + 150 shot

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January 22nd, 2011, 10:45 AM	#20
Willy Mo MM Fanatic 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: MO Posts: 4,368 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 2 reviews	mine are 185/14's work well for me. __________________

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