Clutch suggestions

blueAsmurf · January 30th, 2011, 12:25 AM

Hey guys, i need a new clutch for that supercharged 1999 GT i picked up. Any recommendations? Will be right around 400 to the rear as soon as shes back together. Whats the best bang for my buck?

Shaun03GT · January 30th, 2011, 12:29 AM

Im going with what I have, Centerforce Dual Friction clutch. Im only saying this because I dont have expieriece with any Spec or Ram clutches.

Fidanza 2.1 for me, exploded after 700 miles. Broke it in, then let go. Put a hole in my bellhousing.

The Centerforce is really really nice. I get 0 chatter issues. Very light pedal effort, and strong. RPM Outlet sells it for like $310, but call Summitt and have them beat that price. I got mine for $305 shipped.

Also, get a Ford Racing Throw Out bearing, and Pilot Bearing.

I have the Steeda clutch cable, quadrant, and firewall adjuster. Post people will tell you to stay with an OEM clutch cable, but I dont think it would fit on the hooks with the stock length.

blueAsmurf · January 30th, 2011, 12:34 AM

thanks for the help shaun, ill look into the ceterforce. Any oppinions on this?

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...166-miles.html

nileppezdel77! · January 30th, 2011, 12:35 AM

I don't have a supercharger, but my Spec stage 2 is pretty nice, very streetable (I spend a lot of time in traffic, too) and it has a torque rating in the 500s so you'd be good. I recommend it. Get a FRRP TOB, whatever you do.

blueAsmurf · January 30th, 2011, 12:47 AM

oh and shaun, you might have an answer to this. I'm 100% new to the FI world, so bare with me. I bought the car and the engine had a little knock in it, my dad ( a mechanic) tore it down today. I havnt had the chance to ask him whats wrong with it yet, but hes rebuilding it and dropping it back in. I'm not adding any new mods, everything was already done to the car. It has a 93 street tune and came with a tune for a higher octane gas (i.e turbo blue). Will i need to get the car retuned when its rebuilt, or will the original 93 tune still suffice since nothing is being added to the car?

86er · January 30th, 2011, 12:49 AM

the tune wont change, it will be the same pending the motor is put back to how it was before the tune.

I have had great luck and like the SPEC clutches, good prices, metric shit tons of options and great customer support

blueAsmurf · January 30th, 2011, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by 86er

the tune wont change, it will be the same pending the motor is put back to how it was before the tune.

I have had great luck and like the SPEC clutches, good prices, metric shit tons of options and great customer support

Everything is going to be put back the way it was, so thats good news. Thanks for the help man..reps to all

Shaun03GT · January 30th, 2011, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by blueAsmurf

thanks for the help shaun, ill look into the ceterforce. Any oppinions on this?

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...166-miles.html

No problem man.

Honestly, this is me, I wouldnt go with a used clutch. Because who knows if it was broken in properly, or if that is the acual mileage on it.

And its the OEM clutch right? Your better off with a higher rated clutch to be honest. Just my opinion.

naza · January 30th, 2011, 12:54 AM

I went with the super king cobra bro, it should hold just fine(fingers crossed lol)... BTW welcome back shaun and 86er

Shaun03GT · January 30th, 2011, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by blueAsmurf

oh and shaun, you might have an answer to this. I'm 100% new to the FI world, so bare with me. I bought the car and the engine had a little knock in it, my dad ( a mechanic) tore it down today. I havnt had the chance to ask him whats wrong with it yet, but hes rebuilding it and dropping it back in. I'm not adding any new mods, everything was already done to the car. It has a 93 street tune and came with a tune for a higher octane gas (i.e turbo blue). Will i need to get the car retuned when its rebuilt, or will the original 93 tune still suffice since nothing is being added to the car?

Originally Posted by 86er

the tune wont change, it will be the same pending the motor is put back to how it was before the tune.

I have had great luck and like the SPEC clutches, good prices, metric shit tons of options and great customer support

Yeah what 86er said. As long as your on stock compression, your good man.

The only bad thing Ive ever heard from Spec is chatter, but thats more for the stage 1's

Shaun03GT · January 30th, 2011, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by naza

I went with the super king cobra bro, it should hold just fine(fingers crossed lol)... BTW welcome back shaun and 86er

Thanks bro

nileppezdel77! · January 30th, 2011, 12:58 AM

The extra $200 or so you'll spend on a new clutch is insurance that you won't spend another $300 down the line when you find out something was wrong with the used clutch.

blueAsmurf · January 30th, 2011, 12:59 AM

Yeah im glad you guys are back haha, youre both huge helps in the tech section. And shaun, i agree on the used clutch. Thanks for the input guys

Shaun03GT · January 30th, 2011, 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by blueAsmurf

Yeah im glad you guys are back haha, youre both huge helps in the tech section. And shaun, i agree on the used clutch. Thanks for the input guys

Lol thanks man. Glad we can help you.

86er · January 30th, 2011, 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by naza

I went with the super king cobra bro, it should hold just fine(fingers crossed lol)... BTW welcome back shaun and 86er

thanks, appreciate it

Originally Posted by Shaun03GT

Yeah what 86er said. As long as your on stock compression, your good man.

The only bad thing Ive ever heard from Spec is chatter, but thats more for the stage 1's

they had problems in their earlier design, the clutches have gone through prob 4 redesigns in a few years and they have gotten rid of many complaints customers had. I like to get the +, I.E not a stage 2 but a 2+ they are stronger, easier to engage and super quiet.

Originally Posted by blueAsmurf

Yeah im glad you guys are back haha, youre both huge helps in the tech section. And shaun, i agree on the used clutch. Thanks for the input guys

anytime, gald to help

nileppezdel77! · January 30th, 2011, 01:13 AM

Had my SPEC Stage 2 for 10k miles now and haven't heard a peep. I spend enough time in stop and go traffic and dealing with stoplights here in Brooklyn that if the clutch was going to make noise, it probably should have by now. The engagement is pretty on/off, but it feels solid, not frustrating. 86er is right about the +'s though, if you're looking at over 500lb/ft, you'll want the buffer of the 2+.

I've heard good things about the King Cobra one too.

86er · January 30th, 2011, 01:18 AM

the 2+, hell any of the + use the pressure plate from the stage below and the clutch disc from the stage you are buying, that sounds confusing.

3+ is a stage 3 disc with a tweeked stage 2 pressure plate. Holds more power, engages easier and well just rocks.

We have a turbo car in the shop, he wanted a stage 3 spec, so he got it, its super on/off and tough to modulate, we have a 98 cobra with a 3+ and clutch pedal feels almost like stock.

Shaun03GT · January 30th, 2011, 01:22 AM

No shit, thats pretty cool. So basically the + ones use a 1 stage low pressure plate to make pedal effort easier.

Yeah, I didnt hear great things about Centerforce, I was either going Spec 2+ or Ram Powergrip.

86er · January 30th, 2011, 01:23 AM

^I wouldnt shit you shaun, your my favorite terd

Shaun03GT · January 30th, 2011, 01:28 AM

Lol and it looks like your bwals favorite turd

Nah I am glad to be back on here.

January 30th, 2011, 12:25 AM	#1
blueAsmurf Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,371 iTrader: 1 reviews	Clutch suggestions Hey guys, i need a new clutch for that supercharged 1999 GT i picked up. Any recommendations? Will be right around 400 to the rear as soon as shes back together. Whats the best bang for my buck?

January 30th, 2011, 12:29 AM	#2
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,447 iTrader: 12 reviews	Im going with what I have, Centerforce Dual Friction clutch. Im only saying this because I dont have expieriece with any Spec or Ram clutches. Fidanza 2.1 for me, exploded after 700 miles. Broke it in, then let go. Put a hole in my bellhousing. The Centerforce is really really nice. I get 0 chatter issues. Very light pedal effort, and strong. RPM Outlet sells it for like $310, but call Summitt and have them beat that price. I got mine for $305 shipped. Also, get a Ford Racing Throw Out bearing, and Pilot Bearing. I have the Steeda clutch cable, quadrant, and firewall adjuster. Post people will tell you to stay with an OEM clutch cable, but I dont think it would fit on the hooks with the stock length. __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

January 30th, 2011, 12:49 AM	#6
86er I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 7,630 iTrader: 0 reviews	the tune wont change, it will be the same pending the motor is put back to how it was before the tune. I have had great luck and like the SPEC clutches, good prices, metric shit tons of options and great customer support __________________ Just a truck 5.4 3v: 264hp 317ft lbs rock stock The "search" button, its not just for porn piecing together the next project faster than your first sexual experience

January 30th, 2011, 12:54 AM	#9
naza Enthusiast 00 gt Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 807 iTrader: 1 reviews	I went with the super king cobra bro, it should hold just fine(fingers crossed lol)... BTW welcome back shaun and 86er __________________ Red Pony Crew Member Mods in garage. Waiting on dyno numbers

January 30th, 2011, 01:18 AM	#17
86er I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 7,630 iTrader: 0 reviews	the 2+, hell any of the + use the pressure plate from the stage below and the clutch disc from the stage you are buying, that sounds confusing. 3+ is a stage 3 disc with a tweeked stage 2 pressure plate. Holds more power, engages easier and well just rocks. We have a turbo car in the shop, he wanted a stage 3 spec, so he got it, its super on/off and tough to modulate, we have a 98 cobra with a 3+ and clutch pedal feels almost like stock. __________________ Just a truck 5.4 3v: 264hp 317ft lbs rock stock The "search" button, its not just for porn piecing together the next project faster than your first sexual experience

January 30th, 2011, 12:34 AM	#3
blueAsmurf Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,371 iTrader: 1 reviews	thanks for the help shaun, ill look into the ceterforce. Any oppinions on this? http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...166-miles.html

January 30th, 2011, 12:35 AM	#4
nileppezdel77! Nile P. Pezdel of Pez Dispenser Inc. CCA 2001 Mustang GT Vert Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 4,271 iTrader: 3 reviews	I don't have a supercharger, but my Spec stage 2 is pretty nice, very streetable (I spend a lot of time in traffic, too) and it has a torque rating in the 500s so you'd be good. I recommend it. Get a FRRP TOB, whatever you do.

January 30th, 2011, 12:47 AM	#5
blueAsmurf Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,371 iTrader: 1 reviews	oh and shaun, you might have an answer to this. I'm 100% new to the FI world, so bare with me. I bought the car and the engine had a little knock in it, my dad ( a mechanic) tore it down today. I havnt had the chance to ask him whats wrong with it yet, but hes rebuilding it and dropping it back in. I'm not adding any new mods, everything was already done to the car. It has a 93 street tune and came with a tune for a higher octane gas (i.e turbo blue). Will i need to get the car retuned when its rebuilt, or will the original 93 tune still suffice since nothing is being added to the car?

January 30th, 2011, 12:58 AM	#12
nileppezdel77! Nile P. Pezdel of Pez Dispenser Inc. CCA 2001 Mustang GT Vert Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 4,271 iTrader: 3 reviews	The extra $200 or so you'll spend on a new clutch is insurance that you won't spend another $300 down the line when you find out something was wrong with the used clutch.

January 30th, 2011, 12:59 AM	#13
blueAsmurf Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,371 iTrader: 1 reviews	Yeah im glad you guys are back haha, youre both huge helps in the tech section. And shaun, i agree on the used clutch. Thanks for the input guys

January 30th, 2011, 01:13 AM	#16
nileppezdel77! Nile P. Pezdel of Pez Dispenser Inc. CCA 2001 Mustang GT Vert Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 4,271 iTrader: 3 reviews	Had my SPEC Stage 2 for 10k miles now and haven't heard a peep. I spend enough time in stop and go traffic and dealing with stoplights here in Brooklyn that if the clutch was going to make noise, it probably should have by now. The engagement is pretty on/off, but it feels solid, not frustrating. 86er is right about the +'s though, if you're looking at over 500lb/ft, you'll want the buffer of the 2+. I've heard good things about the King Cobra one too.

January 30th, 2011, 01:22 AM	#18
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,447 iTrader: 12 reviews	No shit, thats pretty cool. So basically the + ones use a 1 stage low pressure plate to make pedal effort easier. Yeah, I didnt hear great things about Centerforce, I was either going Spec 2+ or Ram Powergrip. __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

January 30th, 2011, 01:23 AM	#19
86er I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 7,630 iTrader: 0 reviews	^I wouldnt shit you shaun, your my favorite terd __________________ Just a truck 5.4 3v: 264hp 317ft lbs rock stock The "search" button, its not just for porn piecing together the next project faster than your first sexual experience

January 30th, 2011, 01:28 AM	#20
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,447 iTrader: 12 reviews	Lol and it looks like your bwals favorite turd Nah I am glad to be back on here. __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

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