Great deal on a Motor

Shaun03GT · February 6th, 2011, 06:11 PM

I found this on Craigslist, a guy selling a Mach 1 motor, out of a 5 speed. Has a lower end noise, Im assuming a bearing. But he was selling it for $600, full longblock, except injectors.

Called me today, and told me I can pick it up for $250 tomorrow

4V heads, steel crank, and aluminum block. Great foundation for my motor build. Im going to get the block bored out .020 over, buy a full rotating assembly (minus crank) And bang, good to go. I may, Im not 100% sure yet, sell the 4V heads and use that money to get mine either P&P or buy some new 2V heads.

So question, will I need to get the crank balanced?

And, whats the limit of the Aluminum blocks? My goal is like 650rwhp. IF that. I figured the getting the longblock for $250 is a steal and I can build the motor while I still drive around in my car.

2VSouth · February 6th, 2011, 06:22 PM

Dang thats a steal man. Wish I could find a deal like that. Your plans sound good to me.

If I'm reading that right, sell your 4v heads and get those mach ones ported, that'd be sweet.

Everett · February 6th, 2011, 06:22 PM

If your gonna turn it into a 2v I will buy all the 4v stuff to transplant onto mine. Everything I need for swap. If your interested

Shaun03GT · February 6th, 2011, 06:25 PM

I like the idea of a built 2V. But Id like to keep the 4V shit, It would be badass. I like the fact if I want to cam it, its only 2 cams and not 4 lol.

2VSouth, I ment selling the 4V heads from the longblock, and using that money to get my heads done over or buy new 2V heads.

Everett, if so Ill let you know man. Id sell the heads/cams/intake and whatever else.

blownstang · February 6th, 2011, 06:27 PM

Why do you want to get rid of the 4v heads? I say build the bottom end and put the 4v top end back on and throw your S trim back on it with a better intercooler. This summer a local guy did this swap. He bought a used Mach 1 motor that had a non-intercooled Vortech SC trim blower mounted to it. On 6 psi with a midpipe and catback the car put down 389/345.

Shaun03GT · February 6th, 2011, 06:29 PM

Like I said, I like the idea of a built 2V. But Id probally keep them after just thinking about it. The 4V motors are sexy. And it would be easy as hell to make 600rwhp.

I wont be building the motor til next winter. In the meantime, Id buy forged rods/pistons. Fasteners (maybe ARP) Cams, and maybe send the heads out for a port job. And then spin that motor to 7000 with boost

that makes me happy

T-Lee. 30 · February 6th, 2011, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Shaun03GT

Like I said, I like the idea of a built 2V. But Id probally keep them after just thinking about it. The 4V motors are sexy. And it would be easy as hell to make 600rwhp.

I wont be building the motor til next winter. In the meantime, Id buy forged rods/pistons. Fasteners (maybe ARP) Cams, and maybe send the heads out for a port job. And then spin that motor to 7000 with boost that makes me happy

buy a cheap 95-97 thunderbird shell and drop the 4v into it and keep building on your gt lol.

T-Lee. 30 · February 6th, 2011, 06:44 PM

Just kidding thats what I want to do though have a built gt and have a built thunderbird or mark viii on top of that. But good find and good luck in whatever you do with the newfound parts.

mustanginky · February 6th, 2011, 08:11 PM

i will advise you if it tore up a rod bearing you may have trash in the cam bores if it was driven. i'd check it out. if they're tore up, heads are pretty much junk. but for $250 that's a good price.

Shaun03GT · February 6th, 2011, 08:18 PM

Yeah thats another thing Im thinking, Im still thinking about it because Im worried about certain things being messed up. Ill sleep on it. If not, then Ill just buy some lowering springs lol.

BakerFX4 · February 6th, 2011, 08:22 PM

shaun.... im not suggesting or anything.... GET THE 4V and build it. Dont worry about any cams. The 4v with stock cams will outperform the 2v w/ cams. Just build the bottom end and go with it.

yes get EVERYTHING balanced. Dude... go 4v. Im rocking a 2v and WISH i would have went 4v. F* these 2v's!!

Shaun03GT · February 6th, 2011, 08:27 PM

Lol man speaks the truth. Fuck it, he told me to come down tomorrow and pick it up for $250. Figured Ill take it apart, check out the lower end of the motor, make sure all is good. I figure the crank should be okay. I hope anyways. Then theres acually a machine shop right down the street from me, Ill get it honed and bored .020 over. Ill get some new valves/springs/retainers for the heads. Try to find a deal on some 4V cams. Then just order forged rotating assembly minus the crank (as long as its good) OEM fasteners.

Then I think, I would need a Mach mounting bracket for the Vortech, and maybe the coolant crossover tube? Can anyone confirm that?

Cobra hat w/ pumps and a BAP some 60lb injectors and dyno that bitch

BakerFX4 · February 6th, 2011, 08:48 PM

899 shipped from MMR.....

Manley pistons
MMR forged H beams
clevite bearings
speed pro rings.

stal94gt · February 6th, 2011, 09:17 PM

buy it. its up to you to go 4v or not, but you will have great gains with a built bottom end.

BakerFX4 · February 6th, 2011, 09:23 PM

4v, no doubt. If nothing more than for the look of a HUGE motor. Paint those big 4v covers to match your car. But it will breathe so much better. 4v shaun or sell me the motor complete!!

Shaun03GT · February 6th, 2011, 09:25 PM

Lol, thats what I was going to do, take the valve covers off, and bring them to a guy and have him powdercoat them redfire. I think it would look sexy. Yeah Im going to pick that bitch up tomorrow.

DickH · February 6th, 2011, 10:38 PM

You could take the saved money and get a 5.0 big bore block, the pistons arent much more and everything else bolts right up. Most importantly the 5.0 big bore block is really strong so it will take whatever you decide to do in the future. As for the bracket, im pretty sure the difference is just in the mounting holes. You could make a copy of your bracket out of plexi glass and find where any different holes need to be drilled and then just drill them into your bracket.

2VSouth · February 6th, 2011, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by Shaun03GT

I like the idea of a built 2V. But Id like to keep the 4V shit, It would be badass. I like the fact if I want to cam it, its only 2 cams and not 4 lol.

2VSouth, I ment selling the 4V heads from the longblock, and using that money to get my heads done over or buy new 2V heads.

Everett, if so Ill let you know man. Id sell the heads/cams/intake and whatever else.

EDIT: Nevermind lol. 4v it is, good choice. I know when my 2v motor starts to go, thats what I'll be doing.

86er · February 6th, 2011, 11:44 PM

yeah, youd be an idiot to not do this. As stated stock 4v cams plus 15lbs or more of boost=constant boner.

The only thing id also do to the block is either you or the machine shop should de bur the windows in the main's. The bur's are where the cracks start and if you remove the bur's you remove just about all the chances of stress fractures in the WAP block.

The heads on that mach are the same as the terminator's one of fords best flowing heads out of the box. Buy a set of long tubes, throw your blower on it with 9.5 comp ratio and enjoy the fuck out of it

Scott2001GT · February 7th, 2011, 12:35 AM

those 4v heads wouldn't need to be touched to make 650rwhp.

February 6th, 2011, 06:11 PM	#1
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,447 iTrader: 12 reviews	Great deal on a Motor I found this on Craigslist, a guy selling a Mach 1 motor, out of a 5 speed. Has a lower end noise, Im assuming a bearing. But he was selling it for $600, full longblock, except injectors. Called me today, and told me I can pick it up for $250 tomorrow 4V heads, steel crank, and aluminum block. Great foundation for my motor build. Im going to get the block bored out .020 over, buy a full rotating assembly (minus crank) And bang, good to go. I may, Im not 100% sure yet, sell the 4V heads and use that money to get mine either P&P or buy some new 2V heads. So question, will I need to get the crank balanced? And, whats the limit of the Aluminum blocks? My goal is like 650rwhp. IF that. I figured the getting the longblock for $250 is a steal and I can build the motor while I still drive around in my car. __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

February 6th, 2011, 06:22 PM	#2
2VSouth Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: 717 Posts: 2,383 iTrader: 6 reviews	Dang thats a steal man. Wish I could find a deal like that. Your plans sound good to me. If I'm reading that right, sell your 4v heads and get those mach ones ported, that'd be sweet. __________________

February 6th, 2011, 06:22 PM	#3
Everett Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 gt Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Saskatoon Posts: 1,053 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 2 reviews	If your gonna turn it into a 2v I will buy all the 4v stuff to transplant onto mine. Everything I need for swap. If your interested __________________ Black and White Crew Crew Member # 3 centerforce dual friction,.100 shot freeflow exhaust,70mm accufab tb,professional products plenum, tri ax,3.90s amazing how fast you can go when the road never curves .....lighting up the Canadian prairie

February 6th, 2011, 06:25 PM	#4
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,447 iTrader: 12 reviews	I like the idea of a built 2V. But Id like to keep the 4V shit, It would be badass. I like the fact if I want to cam it, its only 2 cams and not 4 lol. 2VSouth, I ment selling the 4V heads from the longblock, and using that money to get my heads done over or buy new 2V heads. Everett, if so Ill let you know man. Id sell the heads/cams/intake and whatever else. __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

February 6th, 2011, 06:27 PM	#5
blownstang Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,551 iTrader: 1 reviews	Why do you want to get rid of the 4v heads? I say build the bottom end and put the 4v top end back on and throw your S trim back on it with a better intercooler. This summer a local guy did this swap. He bought a used Mach 1 motor that had a non-intercooled Vortech SC trim blower mounted to it. On 6 psi with a midpipe and catback the car put down 389/345. __________________ 2003 DSG Mustang GT 5spd Full Bolt On's, Suspension, Built Rear, V1 S N/A: 266/300, 3,550lbs, 13.44 @ 100.5 1.77 60' Non-intercooled: 356/371, 3,575lbs, 12.81 @ 110.47 1.86 60' Intercooled: 362/370

February 6th, 2011, 06:29 PM	#6
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,447 iTrader: 12 reviews	Like I said, I like the idea of a built 2V. But Id probally keep them after just thinking about it. The 4V motors are sexy. And it would be easy as hell to make 600rwhp. I wont be building the motor til next winter. In the meantime, Id buy forged rods/pistons. Fasteners (maybe ARP) Cams, and maybe send the heads out for a port job. And then spin that motor to 7000 with boost that makes me happy __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

February 6th, 2011, 06:44 PM	#8
T-Lee. 30 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 03 gt, 96 tbird, 05bv gxp Faster than trolls! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: United States! Posts: 5,275 iTrader: 0 reviews	Just kidding thats what I want to do though have a built gt and have a built thunderbird or mark viii on top of that. But good find and good luck in whatever you do with the newfound parts. __________________ 03 V1 S trim @5psi 339/359 3:73's Iraq and Afghanistan War Vet 4 deployments from 01-08.My Wife is also a War Vet

February 6th, 2011, 08:11 PM	#9
mustanginky MM Fanatic 2000 gt Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: La grange, KY Posts: 4,259 iTrader: 2 reviews	i will advise you if it tore up a rod bearing you may have trash in the cam bores if it was driven. i'd check it out. if they're tore up, heads are pretty much junk. but for $250 that's a good price. __________________ Procharged 2000 5 Speed BAB GT, built motor, blower cams, speedy dyno tune 412 hp, 450 rw tq HARDCORE CREW BRIGHT ATLANTIC BLUE CREW #1 MEMBER

February 6th, 2011, 08:18 PM	#10
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,447 iTrader: 12 reviews	Yeah thats another thing Im thinking, Im still thinking about it because Im worried about certain things being messed up. Ill sleep on it. If not, then Ill just buy some lowering springs lol. __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

February 6th, 2011, 08:22 PM	#11
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,252 iTrader: 14 reviews	shaun.... im not suggesting or anything.... GET THE 4V and build it. Dont worry about any cams. The 4v with stock cams will outperform the 2v w/ cams. Just build the bottom end and go with it. yes get EVERYTHING balanced. Dude... go 4v. Im rocking a 2v and WISH i would have went 4v. F* these 2v's!! __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

February 6th, 2011, 08:27 PM	#12
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,447 iTrader: 12 reviews	Lol man speaks the truth. Fuck it, he told me to come down tomorrow and pick it up for $250. Figured Ill take it apart, check out the lower end of the motor, make sure all is good. I figure the crank should be okay. I hope anyways. Then theres acually a machine shop right down the street from me, Ill get it honed and bored .020 over. Ill get some new valves/springs/retainers for the heads. Try to find a deal on some 4V cams. Then just order forged rotating assembly minus the crank (as long as its good) OEM fasteners. Then I think, I would need a Mach mounting bracket for the Vortech, and maybe the coolant crossover tube? Can anyone confirm that? Cobra hat w/ pumps and a BAP some 60lb injectors and dyno that bitch __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

February 6th, 2011, 08:48 PM	#13
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,252 iTrader: 14 reviews	899 shipped from MMR..... Manley pistons MMR forged H beams clevite bearings speed pro rings. __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

February 6th, 2011, 09:17 PM	#14
stal94gt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 mustang v6 ;) slow Join Date: May 2010 Location: eglin afb florida Posts: 10,197 iTrader: 2 reviews	buy it. its up to you to go 4v or not, but you will have great gains with a built bottom end.

February 6th, 2011, 09:23 PM	#15
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,252 iTrader: 14 reviews	4v, no doubt. If nothing more than for the look of a HUGE motor. Paint those big 4v covers to match your car. But it will breathe so much better. 4v shaun or sell me the motor complete!! __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

February 6th, 2011, 09:25 PM	#16
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,447 iTrader: 12 reviews	Lol, thats what I was going to do, take the valve covers off, and bring them to a guy and have him powdercoat them redfire. I think it would look sexy. Yeah Im going to pick that bitch up tomorrow. __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

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February 6th, 2011, 10:38 PM	#17
DickH MM Fanatic 2003 gt 5.4 32v on the way Join Date: May 2007 Location: Omaha Posts: 4,191 iTrader: 2 reviews	You could take the saved money and get a 5.0 big bore block, the pistons arent much more and everything else bolts right up. Most importantly the 5.0 big bore block is really strong so it will take whatever you decide to do in the future. As for the bracket, im pretty sure the difference is just in the mounting holes. You could make a copy of your bracket out of plexi glass and find where any different holes need to be drilled and then just drill them into your bracket. __________________ 2003 Mustang gt - usual mods - slowly working on 5.4 swap 2004 srt4 - Stock DD/winter beater Click here for your tuning needs Before asking a gearing related question click THIS link and enjoy all your saved time.

February 6th, 2011, 11:44 PM	#19
86er I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 7,630 iTrader: 0 reviews	yeah, youd be an idiot to not do this. As stated stock 4v cams plus 15lbs or more of boost=constant boner. The only thing id also do to the block is either you or the machine shop should de bur the windows in the main's. The bur's are where the cracks start and if you remove the bur's you remove just about all the chances of stress fractures in the WAP block. The heads on that mach are the same as the terminator's one of fords best flowing heads out of the box. Buy a set of long tubes, throw your blower on it with 9.5 comp ratio and enjoy the fuck out of it __________________ Just a truck 5.4 3v: 264hp 317ft lbs rock stock The "search" button, its not just for porn piecing together the next project faster than your first sexual experience

February 7th, 2011, 12:35 AM	#20
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	those 4v heads wouldn't need to be touched to make 650rwhp. __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

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