intercooler piping size......

BakerFX4 · March 2nd, 2011, 11:48 AM

Are there any advantages to going to larger intercooler piping. Im still running the stock procharger intercooler piping and it just appears kinda small. I would think that the boost wouldnt come on as quick with the larger piping but I dont know.

18psi is about what I should be running. Its not so much the psi but with the larger piping there will be more volume of air roaring to get thru the TB opening which i think would be beneficial.

Any thoughts?

T-Lee. 30 · March 2nd, 2011, 02:40 PM

I dont have an intercooler yet but I was told that too large of intercooler piping that you can lose some velocity from too large of piping. But if that squeezes down once it hits the tb/plenum that shouldnt be an issue. But i was told that too large of piping can have a negative affect.

BakerFX4 · March 2nd, 2011, 02:40 PM

anybody ladies?

zinc-vert02 · March 2nd, 2011, 02:42 PM

i know nothing of this subject, but i will bump your thread in hopes that some one seeis it and come in to save your day

stal94gt · March 2nd, 2011, 02:44 PM

man you need to be running 3 inch ic pipe with a 4 core ic for those boost levels. im pretty sure your ic pipe is 3 inch, and no larger pipe wont slow down velosity, it will allow for more cfm to pass threw at a given moment. velocity is an issue with n/a cars where the motor has to draw its own air.

T-Lee. 30 · March 2nd, 2011, 03:02 PM

Airflow velocity for different intercooler piping diameters (2.0 2.25 2.5 2.75 3.0 inches) - Honda-Tech

T-Lee. 30 · March 2nd, 2011, 03:05 PM

Optimum Intercooler Pipe Size?

T-Lee. 30 · March 2nd, 2011, 03:07 PM

Will intercooler piping size affect throttle response. - evolutionm.net

T-Lee. 30 · March 2nd, 2011, 03:09 PM

those were all tuner sites but as much as they run boost and intercoolers compared to v8 cars maybe they will have some good info on the subject. Thats why I posted it.

Willy Mo · March 2nd, 2011, 04:40 PM

with your setup, id agree with stal. 3" piping and a good 4" intercooelr will be sufficient. Anything larger then 3" piping and you will loose some throttle response. unless you plan on using a large blower i dont htink theres any need for larer then 3" pipe.

BakerFX4 · March 2nd, 2011, 04:45 PM

alright, well my piping is pretty scarred up. What do you guys think of if I sand it all down and paint/clear it all to match the car's DSG color?

Willy Mo · March 2nd, 2011, 04:49 PM

that would be pretty sweet. as long as its not dented/bent up, I dont see any reason not to use it.

BakerFX4 · March 2nd, 2011, 05:15 PM

naw its not beat up as far as dents, just greasy/nasty/scratched.

Scott2001GT · March 2nd, 2011, 06:07 PM

best thing you chould do it stay with 3in piping but get a custom coldside done and not use the stock Procharger setup. To many bends. In an intercooled setup the less 90* turns the best.

MATT02GT · March 2nd, 2011, 06:48 PM

+1 I think our stock procharger pipes will flow just fine with that boost. Our pipes are huge compared to some other setups Ive seen. Are you running the 3 core i/c?

BakerFX4 · March 2nd, 2011, 09:21 PM

2 core intercooler... Scott, Ive ALWAYS said that i HATED all the bends in the IC piping. Too much restriction.

Shaun.... what IC piping kit did you get on ebay? Pics? did all the pieces work?

MATT02GT · March 2nd, 2011, 10:33 PM

Id upgrade the i/c before the piping if your worried about flow, although I doubt you should be. Ive always hated the piping from the i/c to the maf...they coulda done something better there. But Ive always had good results, so I never really messed with it.

BakerFX4 · March 2nd, 2011, 10:42 PM

I just put my 2 core for sale cause i want a shiny one that fills the cobra bumper opening the best it can. i think it shining through there on DSG will be

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Shaun03GT · March 2nd, 2011, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by BakerFX4

2 core intercooler... Scott, Ive ALWAYS said that i HATED all the bends in the IC piping. Too much restriction.

Shaun.... what IC piping kit did you get on ebay? Pics? did all the pieces work?

I got my intercooler kit used. Its just like CXRacing's generic set. Like someone else mentioned, I would upgrade the intercooler before the piping.

Like this, CXRacing INTERCOOLER FMIC 31x12x4 Mustang Camaro Diesel - eBay (item 110549734009 end time Mar-18-11 00:41:16 PDT)

Stal had really good luck with it. And its only $145 shipped. I bet with that intercooler youll pick up a good amount of boost because it flows a lot more then the procharger i/c you have.

Not to mention itll look boss behind the Cobra bumper.

BakerFX4 · March 2nd, 2011, 10:49 PM

i was thinking maybe not so tall though. I dont mind cutting my rebar and all to make it look perfect but Ill just have to go do all the measuring prior to buying it.

March 2nd, 2011, 11:48 AM	#1
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,252 iTrader: 14 reviews	intercooler piping size...... Are there any advantages to going to larger intercooler piping. Im still running the stock procharger intercooler piping and it just appears kinda small. I would think that the boost wouldnt come on as quick with the larger piping but I dont know. 18psi is about what I should be running. Its not so much the psi but with the larger piping there will be more volume of air roaring to get thru the TB opening which i think would be beneficial. Any thoughts? __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

March 2nd, 2011, 02:40 PM	#2
T-Lee. 30 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 03 gt, 96 tbird, 05bv gxp Faster than trolls! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: United States! Posts: 5,275 iTrader: 0 reviews	I dont have an intercooler yet but I was told that too large of intercooler piping that you can lose some velocity from too large of piping. But if that squeezes down once it hits the tb/plenum that shouldnt be an issue. But i was told that too large of piping can have a negative affect. __________________ 03 V1 S trim @5psi 339/359 3:73's Iraq and Afghanistan War Vet 4 deployments from 01-08.My Wife is also a War Vet

March 2nd, 2011, 02:40 PM	#3
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,252 iTrader: 14 reviews	anybody ladies? __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

March 2nd, 2011, 02:42 PM	#4
zinc-vert02 Bringing Yellow Back 2002 mustang gt 12.2 at 117 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: WISCONSIN Posts: 9,967 iTrader: 1 reviews	i know nothing of this subject, but i will bump your thread in hopes that some one seeis it and come in to save your day __________________ SOON TO BE 5.4 3V POWERD WITH A ROUSH CHARGER HELPING IT BAMA Performance Drag Team Member #4

March 2nd, 2011, 03:02 PM	#6
T-Lee. 30 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 03 gt, 96 tbird, 05bv gxp Faster than trolls! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: United States! Posts: 5,275 iTrader: 0 reviews	Airflow velocity for different intercooler piping diameters (2.0 2.25 2.5 2.75 3.0 inches) - Honda-Tech __________________ 03 V1 S trim @5psi 339/359 3:73's Iraq and Afghanistan War Vet 4 deployments from 01-08.My Wife is also a War Vet

March 2nd, 2011, 02:44 PM	#5
stal94gt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 mustang v6 ;) slow Join Date: May 2010 Location: eglin afb florida Posts: 10,197 iTrader: 2 reviews	man you need to be running 3 inch ic pipe with a 4 core ic for those boost levels. im pretty sure your ic pipe is 3 inch, and no larger pipe wont slow down velosity, it will allow for more cfm to pass threw at a given moment. velocity is an issue with n/a cars where the motor has to draw its own air.

March 2nd, 2011, 03:05 PM	#7
T-Lee. 30 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 03 gt, 96 tbird, 05bv gxp Faster than trolls! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: United States! Posts: 5,275 iTrader: 0 reviews	Optimum Intercooler Pipe Size? __________________ 03 V1 S trim @5psi 339/359 3:73's Iraq and Afghanistan War Vet 4 deployments from 01-08.My Wife is also a War Vet

March 2nd, 2011, 03:07 PM	#8
T-Lee. 30 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 03 gt, 96 tbird, 05bv gxp Faster than trolls! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: United States! Posts: 5,275 iTrader: 0 reviews	Will intercooler piping size affect throttle response. - evolutionm.net __________________ 03 V1 S trim @5psi 339/359 3:73's Iraq and Afghanistan War Vet 4 deployments from 01-08.My Wife is also a War Vet

March 2nd, 2011, 03:09 PM	#9
T-Lee. 30 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 03 gt, 96 tbird, 05bv gxp Faster than trolls! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: United States! Posts: 5,275 iTrader: 0 reviews	those were all tuner sites but as much as they run boost and intercoolers compared to v8 cars maybe they will have some good info on the subject. Thats why I posted it. __________________ 03 V1 S trim @5psi 339/359 3:73's Iraq and Afghanistan War Vet 4 deployments from 01-08.My Wife is also a War Vet

March 2nd, 2011, 04:40 PM	#10
Willy Mo MM Fanatic 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: MO Posts: 4,368 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 2 reviews	with your setup, id agree with stal. 3" piping and a good 4" intercooelr will be sufficient. Anything larger then 3" piping and you will loose some throttle response. unless you plan on using a large blower i dont htink theres any need for larer then 3" pipe. __________________

March 2nd, 2011, 04:45 PM	#11
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,252 iTrader: 14 reviews	alright, well my piping is pretty scarred up. What do you guys think of if I sand it all down and paint/clear it all to match the car's DSG color? __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

March 2nd, 2011, 04:49 PM	#12
Willy Mo MM Fanatic 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: MO Posts: 4,368 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 2 reviews	that would be pretty sweet. as long as its not dented/bent up, I dont see any reason not to use it. __________________

March 2nd, 2011, 05:15 PM	#13
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,252 iTrader: 14 reviews	naw its not beat up as far as dents, just greasy/nasty/scratched. __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

March 2nd, 2011, 06:07 PM	#14
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	best thing you chould do it stay with 3in piping but get a custom coldside done and not use the stock Procharger setup. To many bends. In an intercooled setup the less 90* turns the best. __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

March 2nd, 2011, 06:48 PM	#15
MATT02GT The Mean Green Join Date: May 2007 Location: Colo. Springs, CO Posts: 4,164 iTrader: 1 reviews	+1 I think our stock procharger pipes will flow just fine with that boost. Our pipes are huge compared to some other setups Ive seen. Are you running the 3 core i/c? __________________ Its not how fast you drive, but how you drive fast. 2002 Mustang GT... Just The Usual Bolt-Ons Bolt on list in Garage..

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March 2nd, 2011, 09:21 PM	#16
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,252 iTrader: 14 reviews	2 core intercooler... Scott, Ive ALWAYS said that i HATED all the bends in the IC piping. Too much restriction. Shaun.... what IC piping kit did you get on ebay? Pics? did all the pieces work? __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

March 2nd, 2011, 10:33 PM	#17
MATT02GT The Mean Green Join Date: May 2007 Location: Colo. Springs, CO Posts: 4,164 iTrader: 1 reviews	Id upgrade the i/c before the piping if your worried about flow, although I doubt you should be. Ive always hated the piping from the i/c to the maf...they coulda done something better there. But Ive always had good results, so I never really messed with it. __________________ Its not how fast you drive, but how you drive fast. 2002 Mustang GT... Just The Usual Bolt-Ons Bolt on list in Garage..

March 2nd, 2011, 10:42 PM	#18
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,252 iTrader: 14 reviews	I just put my 2 core for sale cause i want a shiny one that fills the cobra bumper opening the best it can. i think it shining through there on DSG will be : __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

March 2nd, 2011, 10:49 PM	#20
BakerFX4 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 16,252 iTrader: 14 reviews	i was thinking maybe not so tall though. I dont mind cutting my rebar and all to make it look perfect but Ill just have to go do all the measuring prior to buying it. __________________ 4.75 MMR 900se Livernois ported heads HP 292s blower cams Procharger D1sc at 20+ psi IW 15% OD pulley (and more bolt ons) E85 Tune/numbers coming shortly!!

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