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Making more HP or putting it to the ground??
So I've searched, searched, searched and searched some more. Found all of the mods I want to do to my car. But I also understand that it's not just about making power, it's getting it to the ground. Now, my goal is to be able to run all the cars at my school. There's a sn95 GT with minor bolt ons, a fox body 5.0 with minor bolt ons and 315's on the back, an s2000 with 4.10's and some other mods, and a bunch of riced out honda civics
My car is basically all stock except for the o/r X pipe, Flowmaster cat back and lowering springs. I was looking at piecing together a centrifugal supercharger kit, then thought about my suspension and tires. So, am I better off getting 4.10's and some drag radials, or going forced induction? What will make my car take these other cars down either in the 1/4 mile or from a 40 roll? (on private property, closed course)
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Both? 4.10s and tires are quite a bit cheaper.
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^ gears and tires first. Then, f/i.
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yea gears and tires is smarter, forced induction would be much quicker tho
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right now i'm running el cheapo Nankang tires on stock bullitt rims. Is it worth it going with the widest tire i can fit on the stock 17x9's or should I get 17x10.5's on the back with like 315's? Can my stock axles handle that? thanks for the quick replies!
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You can get some 275s on the 17x9, or go the 315 route on a 10.5" wheel, it won't be a night and day difference with the same tire between those two widths. The stock axles in these cars are hit or miss, most people have been able to push it with drag radials, others break something with a 3k launch. I'd recommend 4.10s, drag radials, subframe connectors, lower control arms, then forced induction. Launch control helps a lot as well if you have a manual. Btw you're very fortunate to have a great looking Mustang in high school, just remember to keep the racing on the track
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I have 17x9 275s in front and 17x10.5 315s in the back and I absolutely love them. They made so much a difference for my racing style.
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If you're going with FI later, I would think about getting 3.73's instead of 4.10's. From a dig, you're either going to blow the tires off it without tires or break something with tires.
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i would go the supercharger route because your gonna be able to smoke those other cars and they probably wont even want to race you just hearing it... but then your gonna have to do some suspension mods for sure cause i have a hard time getting traction on 275nitto 555's with stock gears
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you are correct. my mistake. and about going S/C, I read somewhere else on here that you recommended skipping all the crap and going S/C first thing. And that's exactly what I plan to do.
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So I figured that to get gears, subframe connectors, LCA's, and drag radials, I'm looking at $1600. and for FI if I can find a decent head unit for a decent price, about $1700. So both routes put me in the same ball park. It seems smarter for me to go the first route and get a power adder later. But there's still a part of me that says to go FI now because of the cool factor
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go power adder man im telling you its a lot better, might cost more in the long run but faster car,more fun to drive, sound sick and it will be out of the way the other things you can get one by one later... and you can say you have a s/c gt haha
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If you have the cash, this is the route to go ![]() For you, however, may I suggest doing the 4.10's with suspension mods. No offense please, but being young and in high school I cant imagine you would need THAT much power. You'd be surprised with what you can do with a few bolt-ons and a tune.
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Go fi dude...you wont be disapointed. If you get gears now, you will probably want to change them when you go fi later. Plus you are going to get A LOT better gains with the s/c than the gears and shit.
I did gears and bolt ons first on my GT and never got around to the s/c before ditching it. Go ahead and spend the money on s/c and you will be a lot happier with the car.
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I plan on getting a S/C with some potential and turning the boost down to good stock block power levels. Then later saving the money for a block and cranking that thing up.
But as everyone said, its a lot cheaper to S/C. Just be aware that its not just that easy. You have to get that to the ground (s/c or 4.10). Then be careful about tearing up the rear or something. I did that with just 4.10's and it was a 700 dollar hit. I upgraded to 31 splines and wish I had gone bigger. As you can tell, its easy to get caught up in the whole power idea but in the end, you have to build the entire car and not just the motor. Trust me, this is very expensive when you're on a budget.
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You should be able to beat all those cars with just gears and bolt ons.
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I say go FI first, then some tires. Im using 275 NT555R's and I love them. In the cold ass weather, like 40 degrees I hook in 2nd gear all the way no problem. Even 1st gear is spins a little.
As far as gears, go with 3.73's. 4.10's will just rob you from top end, and thats what centri blowers like. 3.73's with a centri is fun.
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most guys are all caught up in living for the moment & buy a power added first & then pay for it because their car makes the power but cant do anything with it (especially at the track, take a look around, theres plenty of guys here that have superchargers & are barely running N/A stock longblock/ built car times)
the proper way to build a car is back to front, not front to back. also whichever way you go, stick with 3.73's, no matter what the 4.10 nut swingers tell you, 4.10's can be too much when your learning.
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