Lowering springs experts

newsatng · March 31st, 2011, 07:32 AM

So I need to get this puppy lowered now that my saleens are going in.
I decided I wanted the ford racing springs, but now I'm questioning the drop it will have for me. A stock V6 or GT sits a bit higher than my GT premium. I've noticed this in plenty of pictures. My concern is the ford racing springs will give me basically no drop from it's current stance. My concern with the HR springs is that I'll now have to buy all this other shit like caster camber plates for $199 etc

Is there anything I can do to put on HR or eibach springs without having to spend even more on other suspension accessories? At least with the ford springs you don't require anything else, but if there's no drop then it's pointless either way. I checked customer pics on American muscle and the drop on the ford springs looks basically the same as the other springs but who really knows what those cars have.

Thanks in advance.

03_StangGuy · March 31st, 2011, 09:26 AM

Your could get the Ford spring and cut a coil off. Before everyone freaks out, you cant just chop as much off as you want. Removing a dead coil or 2 will work though. You'll drop about the thickness of the spring.

sj408 · March 31st, 2011, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by newsatng

So I need to get this puppy lowered now that my saleens are going in.
I decided I wanted the ford racing springs, but now I'm questioning the drop it will have for me. A stock V6 or GT sits a bit higher than my GT premium. I've noticed this in plenty of pictures. My concern is the ford racing springs will give me basically no drop from it's current stance. My concern with the HR springs is that I'll now have to buy all this other shit like caster camber plates for $199 etc

Is there anything I can do to put on HR or eibach springs without having to spend even more on other suspension accessories? At least with the ford springs you don't require anything else, but if there's no drop then it's pointless either way. I checked customer pics on American muscle and the drop on the ford springs looks basically the same as the other springs but who really knows what those cars have.

Thanks in advance.

i would go with H&r and then just get camber bolts for 30 bucks until you can afford some cc plates

codycat91 · March 31st, 2011, 11:44 AM

I have h&r ss and no cc plates and I have zero problems. The only other thing I did that helps that I would recommend is getting offset bushings for the steering rack. Stance is awesome though

00redgt · March 31st, 2011, 01:15 PM

check out the cjponyparts.com springs,they are eibach spring just alot cheaper,i paid 141 for my prokit

1999cobra92 · March 31st, 2011, 01:21 PM

You can install lowering springs. The only problem is that you need to properly adjust tire alignment. Thus need for caster camber plate regardless of any drop. They help.

newsatng · March 31st, 2011, 01:51 PM

Helpful guys. Thanks

Funny because before posting this I was also going to look into cutting the Ford Springs by a coil, but wanted to first touch on the basics.

Would this in theory turn the ford springs into basically HR springs if I cut the coil? I mean in terms of will I now have to get CC's and all that?

In other words is the height of the sprins alone the reason you typically require new suspension accessories or is it the brand that dictates this? If I can just cut a coil on the Ford's and not have to get into all new suspension accessories i'll just do that.

Thanks

EDIT:

Here is something interesting I dug up. A lot of people seem to remove their isolators in the front and back which will drop the car some. To remedy any noise from the metal on metal contact just wrap the top coils in electrical tap. I'm going to try this method.

00redgt · March 31st, 2011, 08:46 PM

i have no iso and i cannot tell any difference in noise or ride

mayosailor27 · March 31st, 2011, 08:51 PM

get eibach prokit or sportlines, get some max. motorsports cc plates and your set

mayosailor27 · March 31st, 2011, 08:51 PM

get eibach prokit or sportlines, get some max. motorsports cc plates and your set

hardhitter · March 31st, 2011, 09:29 PM

Ford Racing B springs:

newsatng · March 31st, 2011, 09:37 PM

That is the stance I'm looking for, hardhitter. Very nice.

The thing I don't get is why is there such a difference between pictures of people with the same springs?? I've seen HR springs on GTs that don't look as low as the picture you just provided? I've also seen ford c springs that still look rather high stance after.

Why is this?

Thanks.

00redgt · March 31st, 2011, 09:42 PM

some have iso's in and some dont...tire size also

hardhitter · March 31st, 2011, 09:49 PM

Maybe they took pics before they let the springs settle or the might have installed them wrong? I have isos in but I have a lot of weight up front like a supercharger, intercooler and optima battery.

newsatng · April 1st, 2011, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by hardhitter

Maybe they took pics before they let the springs settle or the might have installed them wrong? I have isos in but I have a lot of weight up front like a supercharger, intercooler and optima battery.

How is your ride quality. I see the "B" springs have less spring rate vs the "C"
Which would have a better ride quality given the below specs? They both drop the same height it seems. I use this as a Daily Driver.

B : 425lb-530lb front, 200lb-300lb rear. 1.5" drop front and .75" drop rear with V8.

C: 650lb front, 200-300lb rear. 1.5" drops front and .75" drop rear with V8.

stangboy33 · April 1st, 2011, 11:26 AM

hardhitter what size rims are those, 17s or 18s?, looks good

stangboy33 · April 1st, 2011, 11:27 AM

and i installed the ford racing c springs. it looks real good. just need rims now

newsatng · April 1st, 2011, 11:32 AM

Well how does yours look in comparison?

stangboy33 · April 1st, 2011, 11:33 AM

really, i cannot tell a difference in looks.

newsatng · April 1st, 2011, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by stangboy33

really, i cannot tell a difference in looks.

I mean vs his with the B springs. Are you saying you had no drop at all from stock?

March 31st, 2011, 07:32 AM	#1
newsatng Regular 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 194 iTrader: 0 reviews	Lowering springs experts So I need to get this puppy lowered now that my saleens are going in. I decided I wanted the ford racing springs, but now I'm questioning the drop it will have for me. A stock V6 or GT sits a bit higher than my GT premium. I've noticed this in plenty of pictures. My concern is the ford racing springs will give me basically no drop from it's current stance. My concern with the HR springs is that I'll now have to buy all this other shit like caster camber plates for $199 etc Is there anything I can do to put on HR or eibach springs without having to spend even more on other suspension accessories? At least with the ford springs you don't require anything else, but if there's no drop then it's pointless either way. I checked customer pics on American muscle and the drop on the ford springs looks basically the same as the other springs but who really knows what those cars have. Thanks in advance.

March 31st, 2011, 09:26 AM	#2
03_StangGuy I Poop Entirely Way Too Much Blown 03 GT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 6,917 iTrader: 0 reviews	Your could get the Ford spring and cut a coil off. Before everyone freaks out, you cant just chop as much off as you want. Removing a dead coil or 2 will work though. You'll drop about the thickness of the spring. __________________

March 31st, 2011, 11:44 AM	#4
codycat91 MM Fanatic 2003 MUSTANG GT Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,496 iTrader: 10 reviews	I have h&r ss and no cc plates and I have zero problems. The only other thing I did that helps that I would recommend is getting offset bushings for the steering rack. Stance is awesome though __________________ 4v MMR 4.75 Stroker, Teksid block .020 over, 9.27:1CR, Posi Race Ported Eaton 4v MMR Stroker 1000 / Posi Race Ported Eaton Build How To: 2v to 4v COP Swap

March 31st, 2011, 01:15 PM	#5
00redgt MM Fanatic 2000 mustang gt Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: vansant,va Posts: 4,092 iTrader: 5 reviews	check out the cjponyparts.com springs,they are eibach spring just alot cheaper,i paid 141 for my prokit __________________

March 31st, 2011, 01:21 PM	#6
1999cobra92 Enthusiast 1999 mustang cobra Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 882 iTrader: 1 reviews	You can install lowering springs. The only problem is that you need to properly adjust tire alignment. Thus need for caster camber plate regardless of any drop. They help. __________________ Black and White Crew Crew Member # 5 Check garage for mods and pics if you Los Angeles and want to ride send me a text (323) 270-6827 0% Wheel hop, 0% broken parts, 100% wheel spin

March 31st, 2011, 01:51 PM	#7
newsatng Regular 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 194 iTrader: 0 reviews	Helpful guys. Thanks Funny because before posting this I was also going to look into cutting the Ford Springs by a coil, but wanted to first touch on the basics. Would this in theory turn the ford springs into basically HR springs if I cut the coil? I mean in terms of will I now have to get CC's and all that? In other words is the height of the sprins alone the reason you typically require new suspension accessories or is it the brand that dictates this? If I can just cut a coil on the Ford's and not have to get into all new suspension accessories i'll just do that. Thanks EDIT: Here is something interesting I dug up. A lot of people seem to remove their isolators in the front and back which will drop the car some. To remedy any noise from the metal on metal contact just wrap the top coils in electrical tap. I'm going to try this method. Last edited by newsatng; March 31st, 2011 at 02:36 PM.

March 31st, 2011, 08:46 PM	#8
00redgt MM Fanatic 2000 mustang gt Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: vansant,va Posts: 4,092 iTrader: 5 reviews	i have no iso and i cannot tell any difference in noise or ride __________________

March 31st, 2011, 08:51 PM	#9
mayosailor27 Better than Drugs! 97 Cobra makin' women wet Decent @ A fast one Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Norfolk, VA now Posts: 1,587 iTrader: 0 reviews	get eibach prokit or sportlines, get some max. motorsports cc plates and your set __________________ 96 GT-sold 98 GT-05 katrina victim-parted 90 GT-traded 98 GT-traded 98 GT-parted 94 GT/Cobra-sold 95 Cobra Saleened-sold 97 Cobra-knock -sold 99 GT-knock-sold 97 Cobra-sold 96 Cobra-nothing wrong but stock! MM Cobra member 969

March 31st, 2011, 09:29 PM	#11
hardhitter MM Fanatic 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,623 iTrader: 1 reviews	Ford Racing B springs: __________________ Vortech V2 Si

March 31st, 2011, 09:37 PM	#12
newsatng Regular 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 194 iTrader: 0 reviews	That is the stance I'm looking for, hardhitter. Very nice. The thing I don't get is why is there such a difference between pictures of people with the same springs?? I've seen HR springs on GTs that don't look as low as the picture you just provided? I've also seen ford c springs that still look rather high stance after. Why is this? Thanks.

March 31st, 2011, 09:42 PM	#13
00redgt MM Fanatic 2000 mustang gt Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: vansant,va Posts: 4,092 iTrader: 5 reviews	some have iso's in and some dont...tire size also __________________

March 31st, 2011, 09:49 PM	#14
hardhitter MM Fanatic 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,623 iTrader: 1 reviews	Maybe they took pics before they let the springs settle or the might have installed them wrong? I have isos in but I have a lot of weight up front like a supercharger, intercooler and optima battery. __________________ Vortech V2 Si

April 1st, 2011, 11:26 AM	#16
stangboy33 Regular 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Williamsport, PA Posts: 108 iTrader: 0 reviews	hardhitter what size rims are those, 17s or 18s?, looks good __________________ DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT

April 1st, 2011, 11:27 AM	#17
stangboy33 Regular 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Williamsport, PA Posts: 108 iTrader: 0 reviews	and i installed the ford racing c springs. it looks real good. just need rims now __________________ DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT

April 1st, 2011, 11:32 AM	#18
newsatng Regular 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 194 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well how does yours look in comparison?

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April 1st, 2011, 11:33 AM	#19
stangboy33 Regular 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Williamsport, PA Posts: 108 iTrader: 0 reviews	really, i cannot tell a difference in looks. __________________ DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT

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