Kenne Bell intercooled or Procharger P1SC for 2v GT?

Bigb2000GT · May 9th, 2007, 08:21 PM

Recently blew my engine on my 2000gt and im getting a brand new factory longblock put in was planning on ordering a supercharger at the end of june and cant decide what to go with Im stuck on deciding between a intercooled 2.1L KB or the Procharger P1SC Stage II I wanna produce 390-425rwp the car will be stock besides full exhaust (bassani headers x pipe and flows) just wanted some opinions on what to go with I want atleast a mid to low 12 sec car.

Garhfer · May 9th, 2007, 08:24 PM

VORTECH! lol, well do you plan on having it as a track car or mainly just a street car? if street then KB and procharger for the track.

Bigb2000GT · May 9th, 2007, 08:35 PM

mostly a street beast something I can use to play with the 03-04 cobras got two young kids in my town that each have one both are stock except for exhaust but man them things are quick. There is a 1/8th mile track less than 10 mins from my house so I do go out there often. So which is better from a roll I figured maybe the procharger since your already at 2500+Rpms from what I understand the kenne's are good out of the whole?

DrHolliday · May 9th, 2007, 08:40 PM

I'm very biased to the KB b/c I have that exact blower. And the low and grunt is amazing. You don't need to floor the car or rev it to redline to feel the power. Its noticable from idle up.

As for a mid to low 12 sec car, I beleive both SC's will get that for you. I know alot of people say the Centri's are faster, but the new KB's have been impressing people in everything I've read.

Bigb2000GT · May 9th, 2007, 08:45 PM

How loud is your KB at idle Doc? thats one thing I really like about the Prochargers you can really hear um whether they are just sitting or open throttle they are loud.

DrHolliday · May 9th, 2007, 08:48 PM

Its actually quiet. You can here it a little during normal driving. I'm told its louder outside of the car then inside when I drive past people. Floored though it really screams as it revs out.

I should be getting some videos made in the near future, just need to find a good place to do some drive by's!

throwedoff · May 9th, 2007, 08:57 PM

I'm partial to KB. With 100% of the vote so far, it looks like most of MM shares my opinion

Bigb2000GT · May 9th, 2007, 09:44 PM

what PSI is required to get what I want with the procharger from what I understand running 9 psi with KB will get you right around 400rwp but from what ive heard about the centri's is it takes lil more boost to get to that goal I hear of lot of peeps running 10-12psi with centri's and ive heard 9psi is max you wanna do with KB.

tlr96 · May 9th, 2007, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by throwedoff

I'm partial to KB. With 100% of the vote so far, it looks like most of MM shares my opinion

+1

sean1017 · May 9th, 2007, 11:29 PM

kenne bell is awesome: ) my dads friend owns a racing shop all he uses is a kb hes got a twin turbo set up on a ford lighting holy sh*t is that thing fast!

02StangGToWNEr · May 9th, 2007, 11:47 PM

I would go with KB if it were me, just because of the fact that I have read on many sites that they are the least harmful SC, as far as doing damage to your engine. Vortech are good too, but most people who use them, have the older 5.0 GT's.

Garhfer · May 9th, 2007, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by 02StangGToWNEr

I would go with KB if it were me, just because of the fact that I have read on many sites that they are the least harmful SC, as far as doing damage to your engine. Vortech are good too, but most people who use them, have the older 5.0 GT's.

How are kb's the least harmful SC?

02StangGToWNEr · May 9th, 2007, 11:56 PM

I'm not really sure, iv'e just read on different sites that they don't cause the engines to wear down as fast as some SC's.

MeZ · May 10th, 2007, 12:51 AM

Well not to get into a heated debate .. but if you're aiming to hit a mid 12 sec car on the track .. and you want something on a stock block ... thats realiable and all that jazz .. I'd def. say go with the procharger.. I'd actually tell you to get a s trim and intercool it .. but you're just asking about the two .. if you want a car that will jump stop light to stop light just for some fun .. yeah slap on a KB if you have the $ .. but i'm tight on what i spend my $ on .. and a KB just isn't as valuable to me

Badasstang281 · May 10th, 2007, 12:56 AM

KB FTW but when i do one im going to do the 2.6L

sonicblue · May 10th, 2007, 04:51 AM

either one is a good choice. since you just want to mostly fuck around town i would get the kb. but the procharger will most likely out run it at the track. oh and no supercharger is safer than the other. its all in the tune and how much boost you are running

FOR POINT SIX · May 10th, 2007, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by MeZ

Well not to get into a heated debate .. but if you're aiming to hit a mid 12 sec car on the track .. and you want something on a stock block ... thats realiable and all that jazz .. I'd def. say go with the procharger.. I'd actually tell you to get a s trim and intercool it .. but you're just asking about the two .. if you want a car that will jump stop light to stop light just for some fun .. yeah slap on a KB if you have the $ .. but i'm tight on what i spend my $ on .. and a KB just isn't as valuable to me

:award That's exactly what I was thinking. And if you plan on running a forged bottom end I would go with the T-trim. Its only a $400.00 upgrade and will make a lot more boost.

sonicblue · May 10th, 2007, 06:52 AM

if you are going wiht forged internals get the d series if you are going procharger.

Badasstang281 · May 10th, 2007, 10:02 AM

ya or the F1

limited · May 10th, 2007, 12:33 PM

+1 for KB. they sound awsum at wot, the centris do sound nice at idle though. I have found out you have to learn to drive your car over again with the Kb. getting it to hook can be a problem. at the tracks around here I have seen no distinct advantage of one type over the other. if you are into the 1/4 mile, turbo's FTW

View Poll Results: What Supercharger To Buy?
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Kenne Bell 2.1L Intercooled	21	72.41%
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May 9th, 2007, 08:21 PM	#1
Bigb2000GT Regular 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: ALVIN, TX Posts: 199	Kenne Bell intercooled or Procharger P1SC for 2v GT? Recently blew my engine on my 2000gt and im getting a brand new factory longblock put in was planning on ordering a supercharger at the end of june and cant decide what to go with Im stuck on deciding between a intercooled 2.1L KB or the Procharger P1SC Stage II I wanna produce 390-425rwp the car will be stock besides full exhaust (bassani headers x pipe and flows) just wanted some opinions on what to go with I want atleast a mid to low 12 sec car. __________________ RIDE: 2000GT- MODS: 2007 3 VALVE ENGINE AND MORE......

May 9th, 2007, 08:24 PM	#2
Garhfer Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Conv. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edgewater, FL Posts: 1,711	VORTECH! lol, well do you plan on having it as a track car or mainly just a street car? if street then KB and procharger for the track. __________________ 2004 GT Boosted by Vortech

May 9th, 2007, 08:35 PM	#3
Bigb2000GT Regular 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: ALVIN, TX Posts: 199	mostly a street beast something I can use to play with the 03-04 cobras got two young kids in my town that each have one both are stock except for exhaust but man them things are quick. There is a 1/8th mile track less than 10 mins from my house so I do go out there often. So which is better from a roll I figured maybe the procharger since your already at 2500+Rpms from what I understand the kenne's are good out of the whole? __________________ RIDE: 2000GT- MODS: 2007 3 VALVE ENGINE AND MORE......

May 9th, 2007, 08:40 PM	#4
DrHolliday Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Port, NC Posts: 719	I'm very biased to the KB b/c I have that exact blower. And the low and grunt is amazing. You don't need to floor the car or rev it to redline to feel the power. Its noticable from idle up. As for a mid to low 12 sec car, I beleive both SC's will get that for you. I know alot of people say the Centri's are faster, but the new KB's have been impressing people in everything I've read. __________________ Mustangless atm 2006 2500 HD Diesel. Built allison trans and other goodies

May 9th, 2007, 08:45 PM	#5
Bigb2000GT Regular 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: ALVIN, TX Posts: 199	How loud is your KB at idle Doc? thats one thing I really like about the Prochargers you can really hear um whether they are just sitting or open throttle they are loud. __________________ RIDE: 2000GT- MODS: 2007 3 VALVE ENGINE AND MORE......

May 9th, 2007, 08:48 PM	#6
DrHolliday Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Port, NC Posts: 719	Its actually quiet. You can here it a little during normal driving. I'm told its louder outside of the car then inside when I drive past people. Floored though it really screams as it revs out. I should be getting some videos made in the near future, just need to find a good place to do some drive by's! __________________ Mustangless atm 2006 2500 HD Diesel. Built allison trans and other goodies

May 9th, 2007, 08:57 PM	#7
throwedoff Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 143	I'm partial to KB. With 100% of the vote so far, it looks like most of MM shares my opinion __________________ 1999 GT - CAI, Flowmaster 40s, MAC O/R X-Pipe, 70mm p&p MAC TB, p&p plenum, SCT Xcal2 running 93 octane tune, and heavy ass 20 inch rims.

May 9th, 2007, 09:44 PM	#8
Bigb2000GT Regular 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: ALVIN, TX Posts: 199	what PSI is required to get what I want with the procharger from what I understand running 9 psi with KB will get you right around 400rwp but from what ive heard about the centri's is it takes lil more boost to get to that goal I hear of lot of peeps running 10-12psi with centri's and ive heard 9psi is max you wanna do with KB. __________________ RIDE: 2000GT- MODS: 2007 3 VALVE ENGINE AND MORE......

May 9th, 2007, 11:29 PM	#10
sean1017 Newbie 1988 mustang notchback Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lansing Il Posts: 22	kenne bell is awesome: ) my dads friend owns a racing shop all he uses is a kb hes got a twin turbo set up on a ford lighting holy sh*t is that thing fast!

May 9th, 2007, 11:47 PM	#11
02StangGToWNEr Hardcore Enthusiast 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,667	I would go with KB if it were me, just because of the fact that I have read on many sites that they are the least harmful SC, as far as doing damage to your engine. Vortech are good too, but most people who use them, have the older 5.0 GT's.

May 9th, 2007, 11:56 PM	#13
02StangGToWNEr Hardcore Enthusiast 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,667	I'm not really sure, iv'e just read on different sites that they don't cause the engines to wear down as fast as some SC's.

May 10th, 2007, 12:51 AM	#14
MeZ Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Concord, North Carolina Posts: 967	Well not to get into a heated debate .. but if you're aiming to hit a mid 12 sec car on the track .. and you want something on a stock block ... thats realiable and all that jazz .. I'd def. say go with the procharger.. I'd actually tell you to get a s trim and intercool it .. but you're just asking about the two .. if you want a car that will jump stop light to stop light just for some fun .. yeah slap on a KB if you have the $ .. but i'm tight on what i spend my $ on .. and a KB just isn't as valuable to me __________________ Car For Sale on Autotrader.com 04 Silver GT 32K Miles Parts 4 Sale: 18" Wheels SSR GT3 replicas w/ tires Steeda Tri-Ax 10lb N20 Bottle w. gauge (2) Kirkey Racing Seats w/ RCI 5 Pt. belts Steeda & Momo shift knobs SB GT Spoiler

May 10th, 2007, 12:56 AM	#15
Badasstang281 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 385	KB FTW but when i do one im going to do the 2.6L __________________ BBK cai P&P 75mmtb P&P plenum BASSANI exhaust MAC x-pipe NO CAT"S ACCEL direct fire coils NGK iridium spark plugs lX7 Eibach pro-kit springs

May 10th, 2007, 04:51 AM	#16
sonicblue Hardcore Enthusiast 1990 GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: dalzell, south carolina Posts: 1,436	either one is a good choice. since you just want to mostly fuck around town i would get the kb. but the procharger will most likely out run it at the track. oh and no supercharger is safer than the other. its all in the tune and how much boost you are running __________________ 1990 5.0 getting all fixed up for next season 2004 mustang gt 520rwhp, 491 trq sold

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May 10th, 2007, 06:52 AM	#18
sonicblue Hardcore Enthusiast 1990 GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: dalzell, south carolina Posts: 1,436	if you are going wiht forged internals get the d series if you are going procharger. __________________ 1990 5.0 getting all fixed up for next season 2004 mustang gt 520rwhp, 491 trq sold

May 10th, 2007, 10:02 AM	#19
Badasstang281 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 385	ya or the F1 __________________ BBK cai P&P 75mmtb P&P plenum BASSANI exhaust MAC x-pipe NO CAT"S ACCEL direct fire coils NGK iridium spark plugs lX7 Eibach pro-kit springs

May 10th, 2007, 12:33 PM	#20
limited Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tacoma,Washington Posts: 386	+1 for KB. they sound awsum at wot, the centris do sound nice at idle though. I have found out you have to learn to drive your car over again with the Kb. getting it to hook can be a problem. at the tracks around here I have seen no distinct advantage of one type over the other. if you are into the 1/4 mile, turbo's FTW