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Old May 9th, 2007, 09:55 PM   #1
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CAI and Throttle body


hey iv seen a few people say that stanless steel CAI arnt as good as they actually bring in hot air? But there's lots of expensive intakes like knn which are still metal! Im looking on ebay not a big buget but i just want to know before i buy a 50 dollar stainless one.
Also throttle body's, how do they help?? Im getting my nitrous put in soon so would like also to do a few simple mods like this! I thote having a nitrous system with a shot like 125 shot a a new throttle body may help?
hope you can help me steve
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Old May 9th, 2007, 11:26 PM   #2
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Get a JLT CAI and an Accufab throttle body and plenum. The throttle body and plenum will flow more air than the stock TB and plenum. Also yes a metal CAI is going to bring in hot air witch defeats the purpose of a CAI.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 11:52 PM   #3
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Hey where do you find this JLT intake at??? Because the most popular CAI I ever see are BBK & AEM Brute Force.
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But the stainless between the plastic in power wise is very minimal on a N/A engine!

I would still go with JLT!
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jlt is composite, stay nice and cool, basically same temperature as air, not same temp as engine as with most metal cai
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if i put a new throttle body in wull i need a plemian too? I would normally do both but money is a factor! Im looking at a BBk throttle body
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Old May 10th, 2007, 06:36 AM   #7
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Also the BBK CAI says it increases 10-15 hp now im just looking for a better performance then stock more air, but this kit is also steel? Im sure bbk wouldnt make come air intakes which reduce power due to more hot air?
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Originally Posted by 02StangGToWNEr
Hey where do you find this JLT intake at??? Because the most popular CAI I ever see are BBK & AEM Brute Force.

http://www.jlttruecoldair.com/
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Go with the JLT you will be much happier. And a throttle body isnt going to benifit you that much. I would invest that money towards a set of gears.. Also if you are planning on running a 125 shot.. you definatly need to get your car tuned or you will jack some stuff up. I found my JLT on ebay for 115.. but i think i got lucky. should run you about 200 new and gears are about 160... but i know you can find them on ebay for cheaper. Also if you do get a set of gears go with FRPP, i havent heard anyone complain about noise with these. Hope this helps.
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so i throttle body wont help out that much? My cars sadly an auto so its not very responsive, i thote a new throttle body would help. With gears how will that work with my 125 shot of nos? And what about selling the car? With gears wouldnt it put people off coz of more engine wear?
Thanks again. Those intakes are really nice but too much money for me right now! On ebay for 60 dollars i can get a cold air stanless steel with a knn filter? What do you think i know its not the best thing, but wouldnt it help about with more air coming into the engine and slightly colder as the intakes outside the engine bay?
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i have the c&l maf and inlet tube and love it! i am running a 75mm t/b with a bbk plenum and a 125 shot through a n/x plate. i ran a p&p t/b and plenum before and there was minimal gains going to a 75mm t/b and upper plenum.
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Originally Posted by mrnewall
so i throttle body wont help out that much? My cars sadly an auto so its not very responsive, i thote a new throttle body would help. With gears how will that work with my 125 shot of nos? And what about selling the car? With gears wouldnt it put people off coz of more engine wear?
Thanks again. Those intakes are really nice but too much money for me right now! On ebay for 60 dollars i can get a cold air stanless steel with a knn filter? What do you think i know its not the best thing, but wouldnt it help about with more air coming into the engine and slightly colder as the intakes outside the engine bay?
cheers stevo
no the tb won't help out that much. it would probably make it feel like the car is breathing a little better at top end, but that's it. I have the JLT CAI and I love it. I would NOT get that cheap thing off eBay. you get what you pay for, and it won't help out that much over stock. I would wait and save up for the JLT.
With the gears.... it does not wear the engine more.... what your changing is the gear ratio in the rear axle, which gives you more acceleration because it puts bigger torque from the motor to the ground.
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Get a throttle body and plenum combo along with the CAI, instead of just TB.

You will pick up up to 20hp, and gain some very nice throttle response.


E-mail a guy named Jerry, plenum1@sbcglobal.net. He sells ported and polished TB/plenum combos, which meet or exceed the flow of accufabs (dyno proven) for super cheap. If you do buy from him, tell him Erik sent you. I told him I'd send some business his way, because I'm super happy with the product I got for the price.

I picked up my P&P TB and plenum combo from him for $187.
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Originally Posted by mrnewall
Also the BBK CAI says it increases 10-15 hp now im just looking for a better performance then stock more air, but this kit is also steel? Im sure bbk wouldnt make come air intakes which reduce power due to more hot air?
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i used to have the bbk. it was ok. then i went with a jlt. besides the fact that you can fit the bbk inside the jlt, i picked up about 10 no shit hp to the wheels with the jlt. much better product imo.
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Gears dont put any extra wear on the motor they are more of a torque mulitplier. If you car is an automatic i would recomend 4.10's because of the loss through the tranny. And PLEASE dont waste your money on one of those cheap ebay intakes.. save your money and get a JLT you wont be disapointed.
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Old May 10th, 2007, 01:44 PM   #17
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would gears like 4.10 change my auto shifts, they are abit slow, wish it was a manuel. Also with nos would it be a problem with the gears? Do they change the cars top speed? Do they just give you more torque or abit of hp too
thanks v much ohh and install how hard is it?
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Old May 10th, 2007, 01:50 PM   #18
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I just installed a C&L plenum/ 75mm Throttle body and a DENSECHARGER CAI. Woke the car up nicely!
http://www.demolet.com/ website for the CAI
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ok the gears are not going to affect your nitrous.. And if you truely are planning on running a 125 shot you need to also buy a tuner like the xcal2 or preditor and get a dyno tune.. You cant do this stuff for cheap. The tuner is going to run you between 200-400.. and the dyno tune will be up to the palce you get it done. A tuner will also allow you to adjust your shift points in the automatic.. I would get that before i got the nitrous.
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Old May 10th, 2007, 03:13 PM   #20
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why do you need a tuner? My kit has a thing were i can only use it at full open throttle and also it auto ajusts the nitrous to fuel. The shop has a dyno but they seem to think that i can put the kit on once the cars had a full service and running well? I would like to get go on a dyno to know how much power i have but in what way will it need tuned?
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