T56 Won't Go Into Gear

mell0 · June 5th, 2011, 10:23 PM

Ok guys, so my friend's 03 cobra is having some issues. The clutch has gotten pretty damn heavy lately and then just recently it decided not to go into gear. I replaced the clutch cable on it, and it has an aluminum quadrant. It appears to be adjusted properly (pressure plate fingers have 1/8 of an inch until the TOB) but won't go into gear when the car is turned on.

Basically it feels like the clutch doesn't want to fully disengage. You can row through the gears when the car is off, but not on. I put the car in first, started it while still holding the clutch down and the car started rolling forward like an automatic (another sign that the clutch is not fully disengaging). I can shift the car, as long as I rev-match no clutch shift (similar to what truckers do).

He does have a firewall adjuster, and I'm sure i could adjust it so that the clutch fully disengages, but I feel like if I do this the clutch will always be slipping when the pedal is released.

The pedal took a ton of effort until I put the new cable in, signifying what i thought was a stretched cable. Do you guys think his clutch is starting to kick the bucket? Or should I try to adjust the firewall adjuster like I was saying before?

Thanks guys.

mell0 · June 6th, 2011, 09:51 AM

no one?

WickedSnake00 · June 6th, 2011, 10:12 AM

Might want to try in the 4v/SVT section. Or search for something over on SVTP. Those guys have far more experience with the T56 than the handful of swapped guys here.

Certainly wish I could help you with T56 information.

bandity2k00 · June 6th, 2011, 10:40 AM

Sounds like a quadrant issue. But i did have one car come to me with a bad clutch and it wouldnt go into any gears and the pedal was said to have gotten heavier before it went

Shaun03GT · June 6th, 2011, 10:51 AM

The way I adjusted my clutch cable, turned the firewall adjuster all the way IN. Then did it how you did undeneathe, so the TOB is about 1/8" away from the fingers. Then felt the clutch, then turned the firewall adjuster out until there was about 1/2 of free play on the clutch pedal at the top.

mell0 · June 6th, 2011, 10:54 AM

Yup I posted on SVT. I just know a lot of guys here have pretty good knowledge. And it has an aftermarket quadrant eliminating the possibility of the stock one bending/ twisting.

40thAnnivGT · June 6th, 2011, 12:41 PM

Kind of off topic/threadjack-ish, but is there a way to adjust the stock cable on a 98 GT? Dad is having issues with his now with a year and a half old clutch. I know the one way to lift up on the clutch pedal and then push down but that does nothing.

mell0 · June 6th, 2011, 01:24 PM

That method adjusts the quadrant. Stock cables are non adjustable. Your best bet is to buy a firewall adjuster.

joswo1980 · June 6th, 2011, 03:52 PM

stick ur hand in the hole were the throw out bearing fork is and see if there is any material sittin at the bottom of the bell housin , sounds like a bad clutch to me for it to be at the point of not engagein thats more than just an improper adjusted cable

joshdj13 · June 6th, 2011, 03:59 PM

i had that prob on a hydraulic clutch in a fwd. idk try bleeding the clutch

Shaun03GT · June 6th, 2011, 04:42 PM

The clutch should still let the tranny engage even if its worn. Itll just slip. Just sounds like the adjustment is way off.

Andy try doing like I said, turn the firewall adjuster all the way in, then go underneathe and tighten it so the TOB is 1/8 of an inch away from the fingers. Then turn the firewall adjuster out some. I did it til I had 1/2" of free play in the pedal at the top, then it grabbed near the top of the release.

mell0 · June 6th, 2011, 05:11 PM

Alright I'll give it a shot and get back to you. The thing that has me worried is that one day it was fine and the next it wasn't.

mell0 · June 7th, 2011, 05:26 PM

Fixed. Yeah Shaun it was just wayyy out of alignment. The firewall adjuster is unscrewed like 2-3 inches but it works fine now.

Shaun03GT · June 7th, 2011, 05:41 PM

Sweet deal. Glad u got it fixed.

Kohrs93 · June 7th, 2011, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by joshdj13

i had that prob on a hydraulic clutch in a fwd. idk try bleeding the clutch

What he said... BLEED THAT CLUTCH CABLE!!!!

Shaun03GT · June 7th, 2011, 07:40 PM

LOL. Our cars use mechanical clutch kits. I will say though, drove a WS6 before with the hydraulic clutch, feels awesome. Its like a $600 swap on our cars. Not worth it in my opinion.

mell0 · June 7th, 2011, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Shaun03GT

LOL. Our cars use mechanical clutch kits. I will say though, drove a WS6 before with the hydraulic clutch, feels awesome. Its like a $600 swap on our cars. Not worth it in my opinion.

Yeah I saw that. McCloud or something makes it. If I hit the jackpot I'd probably get it. Until then though...

LopnVrt · November 5th, 2011, 11:52 PM

Anyone got an answer to this rather the aftermarket adjustable quadrant and firewall adjuster works? Im having the same exact problem with 9 month, 5,000 mile RAM hdx clutch and still have stock cable, quadrant, and firewall adjuster.

stal94gt · November 6th, 2011, 03:44 AM

the proper ajustment is the throw out bearing rides on the fingers at all times, alot of people dont like this since it makes the pedal real high but to ajust it proper pull on the cable so all the slack is out and turn the fire wall ajuster so there is 1/8th inch gap.

MineralGreyGT · November 6th, 2011, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by Shaun03GT

LOL. Our cars use mechanical clutch kits. I will say though, drove a WS6 before with the hydraulic clutch, feels awesome. Its like a $600 swap on our cars. Not worth it in my opinion.

Lol I'm so used to a mechanical clutch when I drive any car with a hydraulic clutch I feel like I'm going to destroy the pedal.

Glad to see you fixed your issue OP

June 5th, 2011, 10:23 PM	#1
mell0 Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Procharged GT, STR 12.503 @ 113.08 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Boxford, MA Posts: 1,873 iTrader: 0 reviews	T56 Won't Go Into Gear Ok guys, so my friend's 03 cobra is having some issues. The clutch has gotten pretty damn heavy lately and then just recently it decided not to go into gear. I replaced the clutch cable on it, and it has an aluminum quadrant. It appears to be adjusted properly (pressure plate fingers have 1/8 of an inch until the TOB) but won't go into gear when the car is turned on. Basically it feels like the clutch doesn't want to fully disengage. You can row through the gears when the car is off, but not on. I put the car in first, started it while still holding the clutch down and the car started rolling forward like an automatic (another sign that the clutch is not fully disengaging). I can shift the car, as long as I rev-match no clutch shift (similar to what truckers do). He does have a firewall adjuster, and I'm sure i could adjust it so that the clutch fully disengages, but I feel like if I do this the clutch will always be slipping when the pedal is released. The pedal took a ton of effort until I put the new cable in, signifying what i thought was a stretched cable. Do you guys think his clutch is starting to kick the bucket? Or should I try to adjust the firewall adjuster like I was saying before? Thanks guys. __________________ 2002 Procharged GT 12.503 @ 113.08 351rwhp 353rwtq Car Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/mell00ut5?feature=mhee

June 6th, 2011, 09:51 AM	#2
mell0 Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Procharged GT, STR 12.503 @ 113.08 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Boxford, MA Posts: 1,873 iTrader: 0 reviews	no one? __________________ 2002 Procharged GT 12.503 @ 113.08 351rwhp 353rwtq Car Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/mell00ut5?feature=mhee

June 6th, 2011, 10:12 AM	#3
WickedSnake00 MM's king of Neon's 404 - car not found 17.81@87 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Diesel Engine Capital of the World, Columbus, IN Posts: 7,374 iTrader: 0 reviews	Might want to try in the 4v/SVT section. Or search for something over on SVTP. Those guys have far more experience with the T56 than the handful of swapped guys here. Certainly wish I could help you with T56 information. __________________ Official Secondhand Snake Build Thread Here Looks Like a Cobra, Sounds Like a Cobra, Tastes Like a Cobra, Not a Cobra. For Sale: P71 Interceptor motor

June 6th, 2011, 10:40 AM	#4
bandity2k00 Baker Jr. 2002 Mustang GT Coming after build!! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Gambrills,MD Posts: 2,913 iTrader: 3 reviews	Sounds like a quadrant issue. But i did have one car come to me with a bad clutch and it wouldnt go into any gears and the pedal was said to have gotten heavier before it went __________________ MMR-Modular Mustang Racing Phils Machining-For your ABS Module Delete Manifold! American Muscle-www.Americanmuscle.com HorsePower By Hermonn-TUNER THANKS TO ALL SPONSORS,READY FOR THIS 2012 RACING SEASON!

June 6th, 2011, 10:51 AM	#5
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,443 iTrader: 12 reviews	The way I adjusted my clutch cable, turned the firewall adjuster all the way IN. Then did it how you did undeneathe, so the TOB is about 1/8" away from the fingers. Then felt the clutch, then turned the firewall adjuster out until there was about 1/2 of free play on the clutch pedal at the top. __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

June 6th, 2011, 10:54 AM	#6
mell0 Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Procharged GT, STR 12.503 @ 113.08 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Boxford, MA Posts: 1,873 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yup I posted on SVT. I just know a lot of guys here have pretty good knowledge. And it has an aftermarket quadrant eliminating the possibility of the stock one bending/ twisting. __________________ 2002 Procharged GT 12.503 @ 113.08 351rwhp 353rwtq Car Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/mell00ut5?feature=mhee

June 6th, 2011, 12:41 PM	#7
40thAnnivGT Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 12.35 @ 116 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Parma, Ohio Posts: 1,126 iTrader: 0 reviews	Kind of off topic/threadjack-ish, but is there a way to adjust the stock cable on a 98 GT? Dad is having issues with his now with a year and a half old clutch. I know the one way to lift up on the clutch pedal and then push down but that does nothing. __________________ Vortech boosted MMR900 and supporting mods 420rwhp 410rwtq loaded Mustang Dyno Turbo boost in progress

June 6th, 2011, 01:24 PM	#8
mell0 Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Procharged GT, STR 12.503 @ 113.08 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Boxford, MA Posts: 1,873 iTrader: 0 reviews	That method adjusts the quadrant. Stock cables are non adjustable. Your best bet is to buy a firewall adjuster. __________________ 2002 Procharged GT 12.503 @ 113.08 351rwhp 353rwtq Car Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/mell00ut5?feature=mhee

June 6th, 2011, 03:52 PM	#9
joswo1980 Regular 2001 mustang gt no clue Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: troy ny Posts: 488 iTrader: 0 reviews	stick ur hand in the hole were the throw out bearing fork is and see if there is any material sittin at the bottom of the bell housin , sounds like a bad clutch to me for it to be at the point of not engagein thats more than just an improper adjusted cable __________________ zex blackout 125 shot,bbk 78mm tb,bbk CAI, flowmaster accel supercoils, diablo tuner. New setup in works VORTECH V2 SQ BOLTED ONTO A MMR 750

June 6th, 2011, 03:59 PM	#10
joshdj13 Enthusiast 02 gt 5 speed 13.7 @96 stock Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: ga Posts: 613 iTrader: 0 reviews	i had that prob on a hydraulic clutch in a fwd. idk try bleeding the clutch

June 6th, 2011, 04:42 PM	#11
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,443 iTrader: 12 reviews	The clutch should still let the tranny engage even if its worn. Itll just slip. Just sounds like the adjustment is way off. Andy try doing like I said, turn the firewall adjuster all the way in, then go underneathe and tighten it so the TOB is 1/8 of an inch away from the fingers. Then turn the firewall adjuster out some. I did it til I had 1/2" of free play in the pedal at the top, then it grabbed near the top of the release. __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

June 6th, 2011, 05:11 PM	#12
mell0 Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Procharged GT, STR 12.503 @ 113.08 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Boxford, MA Posts: 1,873 iTrader: 0 reviews	Alright I'll give it a shot and get back to you. The thing that has me worried is that one day it was fine and the next it wasn't. __________________ 2002 Procharged GT 12.503 @ 113.08 351rwhp 353rwtq Car Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/mell00ut5?feature=mhee

June 7th, 2011, 05:26 PM	#13
mell0 Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Procharged GT, STR 12.503 @ 113.08 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Boxford, MA Posts: 1,873 iTrader: 0 reviews	Fixed. Yeah Shaun it was just wayyy out of alignment. The firewall adjuster is unscrewed like 2-3 inches but it works fine now. __________________ 2002 Procharged GT 12.503 @ 113.08 351rwhp 353rwtq Car Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/mell00ut5?feature=mhee

June 7th, 2011, 05:41 PM	#14
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,443 iTrader: 12 reviews	Sweet deal. Glad u got it fixed. __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

June 7th, 2011, 07:40 PM	#16
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,443 iTrader: 12 reviews	LOL. Our cars use mechanical clutch kits. I will say though, drove a WS6 before with the hydraulic clutch, feels awesome. Its like a $600 swap on our cars. Not worth it in my opinion. __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

November 5th, 2011, 11:52 PM	#18
LopnVrt Regular 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Waycross, GA Posts: 303 iTrader: 0 reviews	Anyone got an answer to this rather the aftermarket adjustable quadrant and firewall adjuster works? Im having the same exact problem with 9 month, 5,000 mile RAM hdx clutch and still have stock cable, quadrant, and firewall adjuster.

November 6th, 2011, 03:44 AM	#19
stal94gt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 mustang v6 ;) slow Join Date: May 2010 Location: eglin afb florida Posts: 10,197 iTrader: 2 reviews	the proper ajustment is the throw out bearing rides on the fingers at all times, alot of people dont like this since it makes the pedal real high but to ajust it proper pull on the cable so all the slack is out and turn the fire wall ajuster so there is 1/8th inch gap. __________________ bone stock from the factory!

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