Forged internals?

energiesource · May 11th, 2007, 11:34 PM

So I'm planning on getting forged internals, what else would i need to get besides pistons, rods, crankshaft, camshaft, valve springs, and an aluminum block?

MustangMatt96GT · May 11th, 2007, 11:40 PM

Forged internals includ: Crankshaft, Rods, and Pistons

Valve springs will just allow you to run a more agressive cam! (Recommended)
Cams go with a stage 2 VT or comp cam. (A must if you have the car apart anyway, because of the power gains for the price)
Aluminum block will just take weight off of your front end. Your stock block that you have now will work well and hold a lot of HP. (Unless building a drag car, I would save your money and buy some stage 2 Ported and Polished VT heads!)

energiesource · May 11th, 2007, 11:47 PM

Now another n00bish question
how tricky are all these parts to align and install and all that,

MustangMatt96GT · May 11th, 2007, 11:50 PM

If you have never done it before, very hard to do!

You will need specialized tools and it will take a lot of patients.

You say that you are not very mechanically inclined, so just for that fact I would let somebody do this install in your case. Sure you can try and tackle it, but you will need some serious time, and some serious patients. Keep on asking the questions!

energiesource · May 11th, 2007, 11:52 PM

i have the patience, i just dont wanna fuck up but i suppose i can get someone who knows something to look it over afterwards so i dont fuck up.

MustangMatt96GT · May 11th, 2007, 11:54 PM

well I have never built an engine of this size! The biggest I have done is a goped engine where I have had it completely apart! But you can buy a few books on it and read all that you can and you will probably be able to tackle it! I dont know if anybody will check it out for you though!

tlr96 · May 11th, 2007, 11:58 PM

it would be a pretty big job seeing how you have to tear the motor completly down. matts right if youve never done it before dont try it by yourself. if you get this you will prob have to buy a gasket kit aswell.

MustangMatt96GT · May 12th, 2007, 12:03 AM

yeah and you will need to calculate new Compression ratio and keep it low if you want to run large amounts of boost! You will need to talk to an engine builder! contact www.vtengines.com they will help you out and answer all of your questions!

MustangMatt96GT · May 12th, 2007, 12:04 AM

yeah and you will need to calculate new Compression ratio and keep it low if you want to run large amounts of boost! You will need to talk to an engine builder! contact www.vtengines.com they will help you out and answer all of your questions! For an engine build you really have to do your research!

dmachine22 · May 12th, 2007, 12:25 AM

There is also a extremely detailed tear down and rebuild Manual for your year GT (not the haynes manual), but a 3000 page+ manual that shows you EVERYTHING, there hard to find and are pretty expensive but the knowledge it gives you is priceless!

MustangMatt96GT · May 12th, 2007, 12:26 AM

What is the name of that? I wouldnt mind getting my hands on one of those!

dmachine22 · May 12th, 2007, 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by MustangMatt96GT

What is the name of that? I wouldnt mind getting my hands on one of those!

Hold on a second ill find it for you!

MustangMatt96GT · May 12th, 2007, 12:49 AM

thanks man!

dmachine22 · May 12th, 2007, 12:55 AM

Comes complete with the wiring diagram also on top of that complete engine part for part basically the blue print for that model!

ZOOTOXIN · May 12th, 2007, 03:00 AM

just build a cobra...here are the blue prints-you didnt get it from me. LOL

zkid01 · May 12th, 2007, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by ZOOTOXIN

just build a cobra...here are the blue prints-you didnt get it from me. LOL

... thats great... sounds like this one is covered.

DrHolliday · May 12th, 2007, 04:53 PM

If your not afraid to take your engine apart its really not that hard. If you have a good manual, and can follow directions you should be good, and can learn alot.

I did my first engine the same way, just pulled it out and tore it down. You learn alot, and its more rewarding in the long run b/c you can say, 'I build that'. Just take your time, don't rush through it, and ask if you have any problems. IMO the only way to learn is to do it yourself!

energiesource · May 12th, 2007, 07:16 PM

Yeah I'd like to but i wouldnt know what to replace and/or keep, or if i should bore it out while i have it apart, stuff like that.

MustangMatt96GT · May 12th, 2007, 11:56 PM

Well it really depends on what you want the car to be. And I agree that you will learn so much from doing the build your self, and if you are going to go with forged internals then everything in the engine gets replaced. You really should give a place like www.vtengines.com a call and they will answer any and all questions!

energiesource · May 13th, 2007, 09:51 AM

was already planning to

May 11th, 2007, 11:34 PM	#1
energiesource MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Up der in canada eh Posts: 3,527 iTrader: 1 reviews	Forged internals? So I'm planning on getting forged internals, what else would i need to get besides pistons, rods, crankshaft, camshaft, valve springs, and an aluminum block?

May 11th, 2007, 11:40 PM	#2
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,168 iTrader: 3 reviews	Forged internals includ: Crankshaft, Rods, and Pistons Valve springs will just allow you to run a more agressive cam! (Recommended) Cams go with a stage 2 VT or comp cam. (A must if you have the car apart anyway, because of the power gains for the price) Aluminum block will just take weight off of your front end. Your stock block that you have now will work well and hold a lot of HP. (Unless building a drag car, I would save your money and buy some stage 2 Ported and Polished VT heads!) __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions Blown Small Block Ford with a hole in the block. 9.5 Dart Block 400 CI being saved for. Just because you can fuck a cactus doesn't mean you should. Never Lift Racecars

May 11th, 2007, 11:50 PM	#4
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,168 iTrader: 3 reviews	If you have never done it before, very hard to do! You will need specialized tools and it will take a lot of patients. You say that you are not very mechanically inclined, so just for that fact I would let somebody do this install in your case. Sure you can try and tackle it, but you will need some serious time, and some serious patients. Keep on asking the questions! __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions Blown Small Block Ford with a hole in the block. 9.5 Dart Block 400 CI being saved for. Just because you can fuck a cactus doesn't mean you should. Never Lift Racecars

May 11th, 2007, 11:52 PM	#5
energiesource MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Up der in canada eh Posts: 3,527 iTrader: 1 reviews	i have the patience, i just dont wanna fuck up but i suppose i can get someone who knows something to look it over afterwards so i dont fuck up. __________________ 2000 Mustang GT, 417hp/421tq, P1SC @ 6 psi(?), Custom grind cams, Steeda Triax shifter, SLP LM2, MAC L/T and O/R H-pipe. 18x9/10 Flat Black FR500's, Mach C-pillars, bullitt side scoops/skirts.

May 11th, 2007, 11:54 PM	#6
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,168 iTrader: 3 reviews	well I have never built an engine of this size! The biggest I have done is a goped engine where I have had it completely apart! But you can buy a few books on it and read all that you can and you will probably be able to tackle it! I dont know if anybody will check it out for you though! __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions Blown Small Block Ford with a hole in the block. 9.5 Dart Block 400 CI being saved for. Just because you can fuck a cactus doesn't mean you should. Never Lift Racecars

May 11th, 2007, 11:47 PM	#3
energiesource MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Up der in canada eh Posts: 3,527 iTrader: 1 reviews	Now another n00bish question how tricky are all these parts to align and install and all that,

May 11th, 2007, 11:58 PM	#7
tlr96 Hardcore Enthusiast 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Effingham, IL Posts: 1,796 iTrader: 0 reviews	it would be a pretty big job seeing how you have to tear the motor completly down. matts right if youve never done it before dont try it by yourself. if you get this you will prob have to buy a gasket kit aswell. __________________ view my garage for pics and modifications listen to my exhaust video 1 video 2 video 3

May 12th, 2007, 12:03 AM	#8
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,168 iTrader: 3 reviews	yeah and you will need to calculate new Compression ratio and keep it low if you want to run large amounts of boost! You will need to talk to an engine builder! contact www.vtengines.com they will help you out and answer all of your questions! __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions Blown Small Block Ford with a hole in the block. 9.5 Dart Block 400 CI being saved for. Just because you can fuck a cactus doesn't mean you should. Never Lift Racecars

May 12th, 2007, 12:04 AM	#9
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,168 iTrader: 3 reviews	yeah and you will need to calculate new Compression ratio and keep it low if you want to run large amounts of boost! You will need to talk to an engine builder! contact www.vtengines.com they will help you out and answer all of your questions! For an engine build you really have to do your research! __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions Blown Small Block Ford with a hole in the block. 9.5 Dart Block 400 CI being saved for. Just because you can fuck a cactus doesn't mean you should. Never Lift Racecars

May 12th, 2007, 12:25 AM	#10
dmachine22 Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 Z28 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,200 iTrader: 0 reviews	There is also a extremely detailed tear down and rebuild Manual for your year GT (not the haynes manual), but a 3000 page+ manual that shows you EVERYTHING, there hard to find and are pretty expensive but the knowledge it gives you is priceless! __________________ Unknown

May 12th, 2007, 12:26 AM	#11
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,168 iTrader: 3 reviews	What is the name of that? I wouldnt mind getting my hands on one of those! __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions Blown Small Block Ford with a hole in the block. 9.5 Dart Block 400 CI being saved for. Just because you can fuck a cactus doesn't mean you should. Never Lift Racecars

May 12th, 2007, 12:49 AM	#13
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,168 iTrader: 3 reviews	thanks man! __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions Blown Small Block Ford with a hole in the block. 9.5 Dart Block 400 CI being saved for. Just because you can fuck a cactus doesn't mean you should. Never Lift Racecars

May 12th, 2007, 12:55 AM	#14
dmachine22 Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 Z28 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,200 iTrader: 0 reviews	Comes complete with the wiring diagram also on top of that complete engine part for part basically the blue print for that model! __________________ Unknown

May 12th, 2007, 04:53 PM	#17
DrHolliday Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Port, NC Posts: 717 iTrader: 0 reviews	If your not afraid to take your engine apart its really not that hard. If you have a good manual, and can follow directions you should be good, and can learn alot. I did my first engine the same way, just pulled it out and tore it down. You learn alot, and its more rewarding in the long run b/c you can say, 'I build that'. Just take your time, don't rush through it, and ask if you have any problems. IMO the only way to learn is to do it yourself! __________________ Mustangless atm 2006 2500 HD Diesel. Built allison trans and other goodies

May 12th, 2007, 07:16 PM	#18
energiesource MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Up der in canada eh Posts: 3,527 iTrader: 1 reviews	Yeah I'd like to but i wouldnt know what to replace and/or keep, or if i should bore it out while i have it apart, stuff like that. __________________ 2000 Mustang GT, 417hp/421tq, P1SC @ 6 psi(?), Custom grind cams, Steeda Triax shifter, SLP LM2, MAC L/T and O/R H-pipe. 18x9/10 Flat Black FR500's, Mach C-pillars, bullitt side scoops/skirts.

May 12th, 2007, 11:56 PM	#19
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,168 iTrader: 3 reviews	Well it really depends on what you want the car to be. And I agree that you will learn so much from doing the build your self, and if you are going to go with forged internals then everything in the engine gets replaced. You really should give a place like www.vtengines.com a call and they will answer any and all questions! __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions Blown Small Block Ford with a hole in the block. 9.5 Dart Block 400 CI being saved for. Just because you can fuck a cactus doesn't mean you should. Never Lift Racecars

May 13th, 2007, 09:51 AM	#20
energiesource MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Up der in canada eh Posts: 3,527 iTrader: 1 reviews	was already planning to __________________ 2000 Mustang GT, 417hp/421tq, P1SC @ 6 psi(?), Custom grind cams, Steeda Triax shifter, SLP LM2, MAC L/T and O/R H-pipe. 18x9/10 Flat Black FR500's, Mach C-pillars, bullitt side scoops/skirts.

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