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H and R super sport lowering springs problem, PLEASE HELP!!!
Okay so ever since i picked up my car the other day after getting these springs installed it has been nothing but problems and i really hope i can get them solved. First off when i picked up the car the guy at the shop that installed them said that it dropped over 2 inches when the kit says that the max is 1.75 in the front and 1.6 in the back. Then he told me that i was having an issue in the back that when it would go over bumps at a decent speed, the tire would hit/rub. When i bought the car, it for some reason has 235 - 55's on it all around instead of the 245 - 45s it should have on it. So then after that i went to the tire guy and asked him and he said he didn't think the back would hit/rub and that the guy was just trying to scare me for no reason. He told me to drive the car like i did before and see what happens. On the ride home from the tire store i hit an okay size bump and the front tires hit. And then they hit again today. Will putting the factory size tire on it solve the tire rubbing problem? I ask this because i just completely cleaned and waxed my car yesterday and from when the tires hit today in the front, it looks like they hit the outside lip of the wheel well because the shit i put on my tires the tire shine is on that lip?
Okay so problem number two, after the guy told me that the tire was rubbing, he then told me that the back of the car was sitting lower than the front, and i was under the impression that it would be the complete other way around, even the kit says that the front is dropped more than the back. It has gotten a little better from monday when i had them installed because it was over an inch lower than the front then and now its anywhere from a half to a quarter. Okay and the last problem is that ever since i got them installed i have been driving around with a tape measure to measure the hight from the ground to the top of the wheel well to see how everything is. Not once has the two sides been equal in proportion. THe driver side is always sitting at a very minimum of 1/4 inch lower and most of the time a half inch. It doesn't sound a lot but i mean i can see it lol. I have really tried and thought about everything it could possibly be. I called the people who i got the springs from and they have said they never heard anything like it. I know there is no way the springs could be installed backwards because they are completely different from the front one to the back ones. I just have no idea so any help at all will be seriously appreciated. I do not know it this would affect any of it but i did get caster camber plates installed as well. Thank you guys for your time and all the help cause i really really wanna get this fixed. thanks!! |
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It sounds like you bought those H&Rs new, so, it does not make sense that your car dropped over 2'' (all around?). I assume you bought the blue Super Sport springs: they drop about 1.5'' when installed, then when they settle they end up dropping a total of around 1.75'' front and 1.6'' rear. Did you get the springs for your year and model? Make sure he installed them correctly and that the isolators are still there. Were the springs installed at a shop? Oh, and I am not 100% about the your problem with the tires, I think it would definetly help at least a little but you should not have to worry about that, because the springs should not have dropped that much.
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I have those those springs and have no rub at all. The front should drop a total of 1.75 inches, the back 1.6. It will take time for the springs to "settle" in, however they usually ride really high. How are your shocks? If your shocks are blown or worn, you'll get a drop and a lot of roll/float.
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have u had ur shocked checked out? even off a fresh drop it takes anywhere from 1-2weeks so the springs settle in... i dropped my car mmonday and i had to buy the shockes bc when i first mounted the rims they barly fit bc the old shocks where bottomed out. let us know
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yeah thats def. not normal. I have HR springs with stock isos and it dropped maybe 1.5
How long have they been on? th stock shocks could be the issue. The tires you have on there now are almost 2 inches taller than stock so that could certainly contribute to the rubbing.
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I have the Koni STR.T and theyre great for my needs right now. What are your goals for the car?
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I bought the car a year ago last month and everything has been like it is, i think i need new shocks and struts. now i dont know much about this so dnt laugh but are there a strut on each side in the front and a shock on each side in the back, making for a total of 2 shocks and 2 struts? thanks
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Yes there are two struts, and two shocks; and like Matt86 said, your tires are bigger than stock size, so all this combined is definitely giving you the rub.
What brand/type you should pick depends on your overall goals for the car. I'm not experienced on the different kinds, so I'll leave that up to everyone else.
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Thanks guys for your input, anyone have any recommendations for struts and shocks, i am thinking of going with kyb gr-2's let me know if i should consider anything else.
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Tokico blues are good, Bilsteins and KYB's are also good ones. How many miles are on you car btw, because you could have the stock shocks and struts in there still...
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68k and i was looking at kyb's but ive been readin they dnt last too long? and i would like to go with the blues but american muscle is out of stock and if i order from them they will be here in a day.
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i got the tokico blues, now my question is am i going to have to remove my caster camber plates to put these in in the front?
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no, they just slide through the bushings
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When I gotten mine lowered I got about 3 months out of the stock struts and shocks before they started to leak and go out. I went with the Koni single adjustable struts and shocks and haven't looked back.
Sounds like the stock rear shocks are gone out. You will need to replace them and will need to get CC plates to get your camber etc back to wear it needs to be since you probably gotten a lot of neg camber gain after lowering. You will also probably need a bumpsteer kit to correct the tierod angles. Hope all works out well for you.
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Shocks and struts only dampen the motion of the spring, they don't set the ride height. Either your isolators are shot, you got the wrong springs, or something isn't put together correctly. Check the part number on the springs to make sure you have the right ones.
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