grinds into 3rd, hard to get in 2nd

SteviGX · May 22nd, 2007, 07:46 PM

I'm new to the forum and was trying to find someone with the same type problem but couldn't. Can anyone help. 1st is fine but shifting into 2nd it feels like it doesn't want to go in. and then into third just trying to go it grinds...but if i delay and push to the right it usually goes in fine. 4th and 5th are fine. But i was wondering if anyone knew what could be wrong before i take it to a shop?

B0B · May 22nd, 2007, 07:48 PM

mine does it too, i even changed the fluid but it still does it!! just a stiff transmission i guess

orangeRcode · May 22nd, 2007, 07:56 PM

sounds like the synchros are bad. It is more difficult to shift at higher rpms? Could also be a bent shift fork. Synthetic fluid may help a bit but it is not going to cure the problem.

Welcome to MM. Post some pics of your car.

DrHolliday · May 22nd, 2007, 08:00 PM

Mine does the same thing. I'm planning on changing my fluid soon. I read in an old post that the B&M ATF works really well in our trannies.

SteviGX · May 22nd, 2007, 08:29 PM

I'm gonna try and get some pics up soon. Thankx for the welcome orange. I was planning on getting an MGW shifter didn't know if that would help at all.

1Badsnake · May 22nd, 2007, 08:40 PM

What kind of mustang do you drive? The first order is to assess you fluid level and whether or not there is presence of metal debris. More than likely your gears or syncros are either going bad or gone. The repairs could be costly so research purchasing a new set of gears and upgrading you mechanisms. Hope this helps. If I knew the model I might be able to help more. Another obvious point is when shifting is you clutch fully depressed. I know this sounds silly, but my wife did that on my last mustang gt and it was a simple fix I told her she couldn't drive it anymore. HAHA.

ujslost · May 22nd, 2007, 08:45 PM

well since its a manual you cant drop the tranny pan unfortuantly. But you need new synros (blocker rings)

SteviGX · May 22nd, 2007, 08:51 PM

It's an 02 GT prolly shoulda said that waaaay be now. So syncro's you think?

1Badsnake · May 22nd, 2007, 08:53 PM

I mentioned before about the tranny pan. I had a manual and swapped it out for an automatic for racing. Sorry for the mix up.

OcOnnor220 · May 22nd, 2007, 09:16 PM

When I bought my 2001 gt, the difference in the gear-box throw, clutch depression and gear power from my 96 gt was substantial. Shorter throw, more power outta every gear and a better hold with the clutch...but these cable clutches ARE stiff. NOBODY is more anal about perfect shifts in their 2001-2004 GT than me after already replacing a clutch in my old one. I NEVER even use first gear in this car unless Im pulling out of a parking space...because the gear is so short and the car so powerfull, feathering from 2nd 95% of the time can safely be your new method...worked for me, my GT has 110,000 on it with no clutch service and Ive never had a problem driving it like that.

ujslost · May 22nd, 2007, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by 1Badsnake

I mentioned before about the tranny pan. I had a manual and swapped it out for an automatic for racing. Sorry for the mix up.

thats understandable

It's an 02 GT prolly shoulda said that waaaay be now. So syncro's you think?

syncros or shift fork , but my bet is on synchros

OcOnnor220 · May 22nd, 2007, 09:17 PM

And yeah, it sounds like bad shifting has screwed up your syncros..

SteviGX · May 22nd, 2007, 09:23 PM

alright. Thanks for the help guys. much appreciated and i second the bad shifting. alot stiffer clutch than my classic mini had.

SteviGX · May 22nd, 2007, 09:28 PM

and can you install syncro's? or do you need a shop too?

MustangMatt96GT · May 22nd, 2007, 09:56 PM

Talk to white99stang and ask him what syncros he put in! His have held up to 600 RWTQ and thats amazing!

gills99stang · May 22nd, 2007, 09:59 PM

Are you guys using synthetic tranny fluid? That should help a lot.

SteviGX, I hate to say it, but it sounds like you might have some transmission repair in your future.

SteviGX · May 22nd, 2007, 10:09 PM

That is sure what it's sounding like...i got a warranty though. but boy, not having it for a couple weeks or however long is gonna suck

superbeef1000 · May 22nd, 2007, 10:29 PM

wow thats crazy mine dose the same thing eccept i just installed a new clutch and pilot bearing and through out bearing, but mine make a grinding noise only when the clutch is ingaged and sometimes when i do high rpm shifts it is like the shifter is realy hard to move around and get in any gear and other times its fine its kinda got me stumped i was thinking the input shaft retainer and bearing but i dano ..oh and its a 3650 5 speed by the way

energiesource · May 22nd, 2007, 10:41 PM

mine takes a few tries to shift into 2nd and reverse, would that be my clutch or what

SteviGX · May 23rd, 2007, 07:33 AM

mine strugles to get into reverse sometimes and i go through all the gears and it sometimes stops but usually its two or three try's. and mine is when the clutch is fully engaged...to the floor with a stall before shifting into 3rd.

May 22nd, 2007, 07:46 PM	#1
SteviGX Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.538@101.72 before cams&slicks&gears Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,544 iTrader: 2 reviews	grinds into 3rd, hard to get in 2nd I'm new to the forum and was trying to find someone with the same type problem but couldn't. Can anyone help. 1st is fine but shifting into 2nd it feels like it doesn't want to go in. and then into third just trying to go it grinds...but if i delay and push to the right it usually goes in fine. 4th and 5th are fine. But i was wondering if anyone knew what could be wrong before i take it to a shop?

May 22nd, 2007, 07:48 PM	#2
B0B Boost gets you laid 2001 Mustang GT 12.93@113.7 (on the 18's) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milton, WA Posts: 2,609 iTrader: 2 reviews	mine does it too, i even changed the fluid but it still does it!! just a stiff transmission i guess __________________ '01 GT. Just a couple Bolt-ons. 0rwhp 0rwtq. Epic Turbo build in progress 2003 Rubicon (wheelin rig) 2008 Silverado 4x4 (towin rig/road queen) 2009 KTM 450 XC-W (Brap Brap!)

May 22nd, 2007, 07:56 PM	#3
orangeRcode Hardcore Enthusiast 11.21@123 -150 shot Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mustang/Yukon, OK Posts: 1,828 iTrader: 1 reviews	sounds like the synchros are bad. It is more difficult to shift at higher rpms? Could also be a bent shift fork. Synthetic fluid may help a bit but it is not going to cure the problem. Welcome to MM. Post some pics of your car. __________________

May 22nd, 2007, 08:00 PM	#4
DrHolliday Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Port, NC Posts: 717 iTrader: 0 reviews	Mine does the same thing. I'm planning on changing my fluid soon. I read in an old post that the B&M ATF works really well in our trannies. __________________ Mustangless atm 2006 2500 HD Diesel. Built allison trans and other goodies

May 22nd, 2007, 08:29 PM	#5
SteviGX Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.538@101.72 before cams&slicks&gears Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,544 iTrader: 2 reviews	I'm gonna try and get some pics up soon. Thankx for the welcome orange. I was planning on getting an MGW shifter didn't know if that would help at all. __________________ Mineral Gray Club Member #2 Just your average 22 year old dumbass If you didn't build your car, and your bragging about it, STFU

May 22nd, 2007, 08:40 PM	#6
1Badsnake Regular 2003 Mustang Cobra Join Date: May 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia Posts: 217 iTrader: 0 reviews	What kind of mustang do you drive? The first order is to assess you fluid level and whether or not there is presence of metal debris. More than likely your gears or syncros are either going bad or gone. The repairs could be costly so research purchasing a new set of gears and upgrading you mechanisms. Hope this helps. If I knew the model I might be able to help more. Another obvious point is when shifting is you clutch fully depressed. I know this sounds silly, but my wife did that on my last mustang gt and it was a simple fix I told her she couldn't drive it anymore. HAHA.

May 22nd, 2007, 08:45 PM	#7
ujslost MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Albertville, AL Posts: 3,920 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	well since its a manual you cant drop the tranny pan unfortuantly. But you need new synros (blocker rings) __________________ 1986 Mustang GT t-top time piece!

May 22nd, 2007, 08:51 PM	#8
SteviGX Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.538@101.72 before cams&slicks&gears Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,544 iTrader: 2 reviews	It's an 02 GT prolly shoulda said that waaaay be now. So syncro's you think? __________________ Mineral Gray Club Member #2 Just your average 22 year old dumbass If you didn't build your car, and your bragging about it, STFU

May 22nd, 2007, 08:53 PM	#9
1Badsnake Regular 2003 Mustang Cobra Join Date: May 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia Posts: 217 iTrader: 0 reviews	I mentioned before about the tranny pan. I had a manual and swapped it out for an automatic for racing. Sorry for the mix up.

May 22nd, 2007, 09:16 PM	#10
OcOnnor220 Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 520 iTrader: 0 reviews	When I bought my 2001 gt, the difference in the gear-box throw, clutch depression and gear power from my 96 gt was substantial. Shorter throw, more power outta every gear and a better hold with the clutch...but these cable clutches ARE stiff. NOBODY is more anal about perfect shifts in their 2001-2004 GT than me after already replacing a clutch in my old one. I NEVER even use first gear in this car unless Im pulling out of a parking space...because the gear is so short and the car so powerfull, feathering from 2nd 95% of the time can safely be your new method...worked for me, my GT has 110,000 on it with no clutch service and Ive never had a problem driving it like that.

May 22nd, 2007, 09:17 PM	#12
OcOnnor220 Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 520 iTrader: 0 reviews	And yeah, it sounds like bad shifting has screwed up your syncros..

May 22nd, 2007, 09:23 PM	#13
SteviGX Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.538@101.72 before cams&slicks&gears Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,544 iTrader: 2 reviews	alright. Thanks for the help guys. much appreciated and i second the bad shifting. alot stiffer clutch than my classic mini had. __________________ Mineral Gray Club Member #2 Just your average 22 year old dumbass If you didn't build your car, and your bragging about it, STFU

May 22nd, 2007, 09:28 PM	#14
SteviGX Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.538@101.72 before cams&slicks&gears Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,544 iTrader: 2 reviews	and can you install syncro's? or do you need a shop too? __________________ Mineral Gray Club Member #2 Just your average 22 year old dumbass If you didn't build your car, and your bragging about it, STFU

May 22nd, 2007, 09:56 PM	#15
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,690 iTrader: 3 reviews	Talk to white99stang and ask him what syncros he put in! His have held up to 600 RWTQ and thats amazing! __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

May 22nd, 2007, 09:59 PM	#16
gills99stang Achieving more N/A power! When this baby hits 88 miles an hour... Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia Posts: 3,154 iTrader: 3 reviews	Are you guys using synthetic tranny fluid? That should help a lot. SteviGX, I hate to say it, but it sounds like you might have some transmission repair in your future. __________________ Brendan '99 Mustang GT [ 318 rwhp N/A ] - SOLD () '04 F150 XLT SuperCab

May 22nd, 2007, 10:41 PM	#19
energiesource MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Up der in canada eh Posts: 3,527 iTrader: 1 reviews	mine takes a few tries to shift into 2nd and reverse, would that be my clutch or what __________________ 2000 Mustang GT, 417hp/421tq, P1SC @ 6 psi(?), Custom grind cams, Steeda Triax shifter, SLP LM2, MAC L/T and O/R H-pipe. 18x9/10 Flat Black FR500's, Mach C-pillars, bullitt side scoops/skirts.

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May 22nd, 2007, 10:09 PM	#17
SteviGX Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.538@101.72 before cams&slicks&gears Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,544 iTrader: 2 reviews	That is sure what it's sounding like...i got a warranty though. but boy, not having it for a couple weeks or however long is gonna suck __________________ Mineral Gray Club Member #2 Just your average 22 year old dumbass If you didn't build your car, and your bragging about it, STFU

May 22nd, 2007, 10:29 PM	#18
superbeef1000 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: mesa , arizona Posts: 1,474 iTrader: 2 reviews	wow thats crazy mine dose the same thing eccept i just installed a new clutch and pilot bearing and through out bearing, but mine make a grinding noise only when the clutch is ingaged and sometimes when i do high rpm shifts it is like the shifter is realy hard to move around and get in any gear and other times its fine its kinda got me stumped i was thinking the input shaft retainer and bearing but i dano ..oh and its a 3650 5 speed by the way __________________ a bunch of stuff to make my car faster http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...e-member-1497/

May 23rd, 2007, 07:33 AM	#20
SteviGX Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.538@101.72 before cams&slicks&gears Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,544 iTrader: 2 reviews	mine strugles to get into reverse sometimes and i go through all the gears and it sometimes stops but usually its two or three try's. and mine is when the clutch is fully engaged...to the floor with a stall before shifting into 3rd. __________________ Mineral Gray Club Member #2 Just your average 22 year old dumbass If you didn't build your car, and your bragging about it, STFU

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