[IsaidWOT]

I have gears installed, so I'm not looking for a ton of low end power. Been checking out Vortech kits. Summit Racing has the V-1 kit for $3,014.95. This is a good price from what I've seen.

American Muscles' kit is the V-3 though. Should I hit up that one instead? Is there much of a difference for an additional $700? It says it's self lubricating, whereas I'm assuming the V-1 isn't.

Just trying to get all my ducks in a row.

Thanks!

[T-Lee. 30]

I have the v1 s trim kit and love it as far as self lubricated vs the oil tapped units like the v1 and v2 they tap into the oil pan so the suck from a supply of 6qts or however many qts you put into your car and its all cycled through the filter since its your engine oil. the self contaned just has that few ounces of oil in it that just stays in the head unit no oil filter, oil cooler or a deep supply of cycling oil coming from the pan and when you change your motor oil the unit also gets fresh oil along with it. there is a member on here that was able to get over 600rwhp with a v1 strim and blower cams with the supporting fuel mods. So its a great blower for the price and being 500-600rwhp capable is plenty for the streets. I have 3.73 gears and an auto with my v1 s trim its not that bad on gas either I just drove from Killeen tx to Tifton Ga and averaged 23mpg highway cruizing between 75-90 most of the way with luggage and a 15" sub in the trunk.. I only put down 339 rwhp/359 rwtq on the dyno @4-5psi I had a bad belt tensioner though it was my factory old one so I went to a parts store and picked up an aftermarket tensioner for like $45 and now it goes from 7-9 psi but it hasnt been back on the dyno but with the extra 2-4 psi its obviously more than 339rwhp/359rwtq now. all through an auto with a catted x and 10 series flows. my base dyno before the blower was put on was 233rwhp 266 rwtq so 106 hp increase/ 93 ft lbs increase with a crappy tensioner.

[AMChrisYoung]

Originally Posted by IsaidWOT I have gears installed, so I'm not looking for a ton of low end power. Been checking out Vortech kits. Summit Racing has the V-1 kit for $3,014.95. This is a good price from what I've seen. American Muscles' kit is the V-3 though. Should I hit up that one instead? Is there much of a difference for an additional $700? It says it's self lubricating, whereas I'm assuming the V-1 isn't. Just trying to get all my ducks in a row. Thanks!

That's a great question, OP!

The V-3 kit is a great improvement over the V-1s and 2s and a lot of this has to due with the self-contained lubricating system. This saves A TON of headaches in terms of having to tap your oil pan. That doesn't sound like a huge deal, but when you consider that the engine has to be lifted from it's mounts to remove the oil pan, that is a couple hours labor at least. You also then have to trust the quality of work of the person drilling/tapping/welding the bung in place in the oil-pan AND you have to get the required lines/fittings necessary to use the new bung in the oil-pan.

Speaking from experience, the V-3 kit is just a cleaner/easier installation and in the long-run is definitely a worthwhile upgrade.

Furthermore, the head-units(supercharger impeller/impeller housings) are all the same size and flow the same amount of boost through all three models, so you will not see a "performance" improvement between them. They will all make the same power, it just comes down to how easy you want the install to be.

Good luck!

I hope this helps!

Please let me know if you have any questions in the future!

[stal94gt]

All si models flow the same but the v1 head units have a lower step ratio so the sc will make less boost per pulley. The v3 si is by far my favorite entry level sc and not running motor oil threw it is a good thing. It keeps all the engine contaminates out. Also a v3 si tuner kit can be had for 2800 off summit.

[03fastgt]

Sorry to butt in here, but Rockwell29, which member is making 600HP on the v1? I'd like to see what his set up is like. Thanks

[stal94gt]

Originally Posted by 03fastgt Sorry to butt in here, but Rockwell29, which member is making 600HP on the v1? I'd like to see what his set up is like. Thanks

Jivepepper spun a v1 s trim with heads cam and a mmr 900 to break 600a but it was over spun quite a bit. Now he runs a t trim.

[stal94gt]

Btw I ran a v3 si trim with ported heads, STOCK cams, and a mmr 900 with a stock lower and a rr3.0 pulley and made mid 500's not over spinning my v3. The v3 is one of the few perfectly matched blowers for a modular cause with the stock 3.6 pulley it makes exactly 10# on a stock motor non ic. Which means it can be used from mild to wild

[T-Lee. 30]

Originally Posted by 03fastgt Sorry to butt in here, but Rockwell29, which member is making 600HP on the v1? I'd like to see what his set up is like. Thanks

Stal just answered it! Jivepepper check post #43 in this link what will it make? dyno guesses :) there is another member on here making 517rwhp on a v2 with a stock longblock and blower cams @11psi. Bullitt 5566

[blownstang]

Originally Posted by AMChrisYoung That's a great question, OP! The V-3 kit is a great improvement over the V-1s and 2s and a lot of this has to due with the self-contained lubricating system. This saves A TON of headaches in terms of having to tap your oil pan. That doesn't sound like a huge deal, but when you consider that the engine has to be lifted from it's mounts to remove the oil pan, that is a couple hours labor at least. You also then have to trust the quality of work of the person drilling/tapping/welding the bung in place in the oil-pan AND you have to get the required lines/fittings necessary to use the new bung in the oil-pan.

Ummm...you definitely dont have to lift the engine or remove the oil pan. My complete V1 kit install cost $350.

[IsaidWOT]

So the tuner kit just doesn't include the tune, injectors, fuel pump and stuff. Instead of going that route, I'd probably do the sticky for the affordable supercharger. I dunno, it's probably a year out yet since I just had to pay another $1,300 for tuition this week.

[T-Lee. 30]

you can always check out the classifieds on here if you dont want to pay the price for the brand new kits. The kit i picked up is the same one you listed for $3014 but i found mine on craigslist out in houston for $2400 brand new and complete still in the box wrapped up. Just do a bit of weekly hunting close to the time you're planning on picking one up.

[02gtvortech]

i bought that same kit from summit and installed it myself. i love the kit and it works great its no big deal to tap the oil pan. just make sure you get a dyno tune because the tune they put on my computer was running rich and making like 50 less hosepower. i have had that kit on my car for almost two years and never had any problems yet. you all so get a 3 year warrenty from vortech with that kit.

[joswo1980]

Originally Posted by AMChrisYoung That's a great question, OP! The V-3 kit is a great improvement over the V-1s and 2s and a lot of this has to due with the self-contained lubricating system. This saves A TON of headaches in terms of having to tap your oil pan. That doesn't sound like a huge deal, but when you consider that the engine has to be lifted from it's mounts to remove the oil pan, that is a couple hours labor at least. You also then have to trust the quality of work of the person drilling/tapping/welding the bung in place in the oil-pan AND you have to get the required lines/fittings necessary to use the new bung in the oil-pan. Speaking from experience, the V-3 kit is just a cleaner/easier installation and in the long-run is definitely a worthwhile upgrade. Furthermore, the head-units(supercharger impeller/impeller housings) are all the same size and flow the same amount of boost through all three models, so you will not see a "performance" improvement between them. They will all make the same power, it just comes down to how easy you want the install to be. Good luck! I hope this helps! Please let me know if you have any questions in the future!

False! U don't have to take off oil pan, nor weld, the adapter is threaded and sits above the oil table its just a drain and all required hoses and fitting come with kit, but a v3 is diffently better than the 2 other models

[IsaidWOT]

One more question for you guys, I'll probably go with the V3 when I get the money. What octane fuel do you use with your S/C?

[T-Lee. 30]

93!!!!!! or the highest in your area.

[IsaidWOT]

Okay, yeah we have 91-93 here.

[IsaidWOT]

Okay, call me a woman, but I've changed my mind. I'm going to go Kenne Bell. After looking at both extensively I'll probably go with a Non IC kit because my power requirements aren't that great. I want more than 300rwhp, but less than 400rwhp. Wife will never let me do much beyond.

With that said, the KB just has the look and sound that I'm wanting. I won't need it intercooled because I don't want higher output than about the 340-360 it'll give me.

[jivepepper]

Originally Posted by joswo1980 False! U don't have to take off oil pan, nor weld, the adapter is threaded and sits above the oil table its just a drain and all required hoses and fitting come with kit, but a v3 is diffently better than the 2 other models

I wouldn't say the oil system is better just more convenient and user friendly.

I prefer a Sc the use an external oil supply. They are more durable. That's why all race centrfuge blowers and turbos still tap into an external oil supply. Now the improved impeller design it why it's an improvement.

Originally Posted by IsaidWOT Okay, call me a woman, but I've changed my mind. I'm going to go Kenne Bell. After looking at both extensively I'll probably go with a Non IC kit because my power requirements aren't that great. I want more than 300rwhp, but less than 400rwhp. Wife will never let me do much beyond. With that said, the KB just has the look and sound that I'm wanting. I won't need it intercooled because I don't want higher output than about the 340-360 it'll give me.

That's what I said 8 years ago when I first bought my SC lol.

[blownstang]

haha yup. You'll get bored with 350rwhp real fast. The KB may hold you over for a while because of the instant boost so it will feel fast, but in a month or two you are going to want to up the boost. In no time you will be putting an intercooled kit on it.

[Nitmare67]

I run the V3SI and wouldnt have it any other way. Best entry level blower on the market by far.