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Vortech vs Procharger
whats the difference between them besides there both centrifugal?
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procharger is better
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vortech runs cooler thats why intercoolers are not a must and is less prone to head unit leaks. Prochargers cost alot more though.
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Lol coming from the guy with no expierience with either one.
Both do the same thing. Procharger kits come intercooled which is better. You can get an aftercooler kit with a Vortech kit, aftercoolers are good for the track, but for the street, theyll heat soak. A lot of people buy CXRacing or Treadstone intercoolers for Vortech kits. Both are good, Procharger guys will say Prochargers are better, Vortech guys will say Vortech is better. But they both do the same thing. Depends on what trim models you want to compare.
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either will make good power. vortech tends to be less expensive
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Both are good systems. Both with produce more power than the stock motor can stand. Vortech sell a non-intercooled system but there are after market intercoolers you can add. ProCharger ships with an intercooler. Its 3-core intercooler is a very good intercooler. Both are reported to have very good customer service.
I can personally vouch for ProCharger's customer service and warranties. I have talked to them several times. After 65,000 miles I shredded a belt damaging the front seal on my P1SC. It was still under their 3 year warranty so I sent the head unit back to ProCharger. They charged me for the front seal because they dug pieces of belt out of it but they said the main seal showed signs of leaking and replaced it for free. I now have 76,000 miles on my P1SC and its going strong.
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i like vortechs only because they are cheaper and i own a vortech. plus i made 425 with a vortech and the two procharger guys around here only made 350. vortechs also like to be over spun.
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Matt02GT makes 430 rwhp with a P1SC. I make 385 and Bullitt02875 makes 440. 350 rwhp is what you get with a 3.85" pulley. All you have to do to increase boost is to put on a smaller pulley. But you knew that already.
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I ran a 3.6 pulley... So did one procharger guy.. The other one put on a smaller pulley for 12 psi and he only made 370. But I'm sure there is a reason why it made low numbers because a lot things can be factor like a tune.
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my p1sc made 467 on a mustang dyno, i too am happy w/ the customer service and they are getting back out tuesday upgraded to a d1sc.... cant wait!
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At what boost level or pulley size and supporting mods?
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You don't hear a whole lot about novi but I've heard good things about them also. Saw one dyno more than my vortech with almost an identical setup. I'd keep my options open and look for a deal. Be careful buying used. Some of these guys know the shit I just went through from buying a used shit kit.
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I think both are good durabale systems with good customer service. From many years experience witj my car and others I feel Vortech's entry level SC's for our cars will produce more power when pushed hard, but either will make more than enough for most people.
This is because Vortech underated their entry level SC's and I feel Procharger overated theirs. Show me a 2v 4.6l P1SC breaking 600+ on pump gas and no nitrous? The other thing about Vortech is that it's much cheaper to upgrade later. The bracket I have now will also support the YSI-trim and will support 1000+ hp. I'd love to have a Procharger F1A for my car.
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Hard to beat a Vortech SI for an entry level blower...... How many entry level blowers can make over 650rwhp?
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But Novi 2000 is > S-trim T-trim, P1SC, D1SC, KB 2.1, 2.2, and when pushed to the max would probably out perform the 2.6. If you want more the the Novi 2K you'd have to go with a KB 2.8 whipple 3.1, F1A, YSI or a large turbo.
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Imo they are pretty much the same and can net the same results. I went the procharger route because of the intercooler setup which made me feel safer. Also I liked the self contained oil system rather than tapping the the oil pan for the vortech
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I would prefer the tapped oil pan but vortech's v3 is self contained btw.
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Tapping the oil pan sucks. I still get a small little leak. Its would definitley be easier to have it self contained. I guess the only positive thing with it is, you dont need seperate oil for the blower. Makes it alittle easier, rather then having to order it online.
I do agree with Jive as far as Vortech under-rating there S trim blowers. But, both can do the same thing. Its really just opinion.
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