Torn...2v cams or 4v heads...

Mike113 · November 22nd, 2011, 12:56 AM

Let me break it down for ya. I have a bolt on GT. I almost bought cams for it, but then discovered that I had a bad rod bearing.

Through excessive persuasion of parental units, rather than just fix my motor, I'm having a brand new short block custom built...yea I know right...

Anyways, the shortblock consists of cast block/crank, forged rods and pistons, and about 11.1:1 CR with 2v heads to be brief.

The original plan was to also add in some big cams. These would go in my stock heads. My guy also told me that he could hook me up with some 01 cobra heads for the same price as the cams...he got a good deal I guess.

so its either 2v w/cams. or 4v w/ no cams. I can only afford to do one. Let me hear your opinions, suggestions, comments, whatever you want. I believe both will make about the same power. I would love the sound of cams, which is what I was originally after. 4v sounds cool too, but I dont see myself tapping into the potential power that they would give me, as I am a college student with little income.

I'm leaning more towards the cammed 2v and having a sick nasty sounding car and calling it quits..

Let me know what you all think!

y2k02 · November 22nd, 2011, 07:59 AM

I see no reason for you to not keep it 2V.

NickPohlAandP · November 22nd, 2011, 08:19 AM

I agree. Stick with the 2V. There's a lot more involved with going 4V than just slapping heads on. Your cost will go up real quick and you'll probably find yourself going way over budget.

Orange2V · November 22nd, 2011, 08:44 AM

2V FTW

ryeguy2006a · November 22nd, 2011, 09:55 AM

Yeah stick 2V, with cams.

Mike113 · November 22nd, 2011, 11:18 AM

thanks guys. Yea I'm not sure how he was gonna do all that and not go over my budget...I think I'll be happier with a cammed 2v

Lilbitandthor · November 22nd, 2011, 11:52 AM

Stay 2v on your budget. Look at the Lincoln Mark 8 conversion sticky if you want to scare yourself away from a 4v conversion. I've got a little money and some skills and I'm thinking twice about it.

Mike113 · November 22nd, 2011, 02:40 PM

true that. I've decided to stay 2v. This build will make it a fun car, plus I'll get the sound of cams. Nitrous down the road will be great with the compression I'm running

cbjohnson9 · November 22nd, 2011, 03:08 PM

2V with a set of properly sized cams for your build. You're gonna hate it if you go to big...Do the piston have a valve relief cut into them?

mattrotten · November 22nd, 2011, 03:11 PM

4v heads on a 2v bottom reduces compression. its not gonna run how ya think. 2v's do fine from the factory. Plus you dnt have 2 worry about infamous head ticks with a 2v like u would a 4v.

Mike113 · November 22nd, 2011, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by cbjohnson9

2V with a set of properly sized cams for your build. You're gonna hate it if you go to big...Do the piston have a valve relief cut into them?

I'm not exactly sure on the specs of the pistons. The guy building my engine is pretty much the top guy to go to in FL if you've got a Mustang. The car he built won the dyno competition for king of the street this year lol

I think he said they were 2cc probe pistons...thats all I remember. He'll size the cams and pistons properly I'm sure.

Mike113 · November 22nd, 2011, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by mattrotten

4v heads on a 2v bottom reduces compression. its not gonna run how ya think. 2v's do fine from the factory. Plus you dnt have 2 worry about infamous head ticks with a 2v like u would a 4v.

I'm getting a built bottom end with a higher compression...

Scott2001GT · November 22nd, 2011, 03:15 PM

I said 4v....stock 4v heads will handle a lot of power stock compared to 2v. I like the 2v bc of the under dog status

cbjohnson9 · November 22nd, 2011, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Mike113

I'm not exactly sure on the specs of the pistons. The guy building my engine is pretty much the top guy to go to in FL if you've got a Mustang. The car he built won the dyno competition for king of the street this year lol

I think he said they were 2cc probe pistons...thats all I remember. He'll size the cams and pistons properly I'm sure.

Just because a motor is a dyno queen doesn't mean it's a good build for your car and your purpose.

Mike113 · November 22nd, 2011, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by cbjohnson9

Just because a motor is a dyno queen doesn't mean it's a good build for your car and your purpose.

Never said I was putting that motor in my car. I'm just saying that he knows what he's doing. I'm getting a built/cammed 2v...not a 1k+hp twin turbo 4v motor...lol

Mike113 · November 22nd, 2011, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Scott2001GT

I said 4v....stock 4v heads will handle a lot of power stock compared to 2v. I like the 2v bc of the under dog status

true that...I would go 4v if I was planning on going more hp. Most likely after this build that'll be it for this car. Both combos would make close to the same power, so I'd rather have it sound cool +have underdog status at the same time...its a win win...

mattrotten · November 22nd, 2011, 03:43 PM

hmmm in that case id go wit 4v heads. a built bottom and 4v has way more potential if ur going all motor. def 4 v then

mattrotten · November 22nd, 2011, 03:45 PM

srry, didnt read the whole thing lol

ryeguy2006a · November 22nd, 2011, 03:55 PM

I think you made a good choice.

NickPohlAandP · November 22nd, 2011, 03:56 PM

Aaaaaand, if you're staying with a PI type head make sure you get your pistons notched.

View Poll Results: 2v w/cams or 4v w/no cams
Cammed 2v	17	80.95%
Stock 4v heads (01 Cobra)	4	19.05%
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November 22nd, 2011, 12:56 AM	#1
Mike113 Regular 2000 Mustang GT 14.08@98 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bradenton, Florida Posts: 439 iTrader: 0 reviews	Torn...2v cams or 4v heads... Let me break it down for ya. I have a bolt on GT. I almost bought cams for it, but then discovered that I had a bad rod bearing. Through excessive persuasion of parental units, rather than just fix my motor, I'm having a brand new short block custom built...yea I know right... Anyways, the shortblock consists of cast block/crank, forged rods and pistons, and about 11.1:1 CR with 2v heads to be brief. The original plan was to also add in some big cams. These would go in my stock heads. My guy also told me that he could hook me up with some 01 cobra heads for the same price as the cams...he got a good deal I guess. so its either 2v w/cams. or 4v w/ no cams. I can only afford to do one. Let me hear your opinions, suggestions, comments, whatever you want. I believe both will make about the same power. I would love the sound of cams, which is what I was originally after. 4v sounds cool too, but I dont see myself tapping into the potential power that they would give me, as I am a college student with little income. I'm leaning more towards the cammed 2v and having a sick nasty sounding car and calling it quits.. Let me know what you all think! __________________ Built NA 2v with some goodies

November 22nd, 2011, 07:59 AM	#2
y2k02 Hardcore Enthusiast 02 Mustang GT 9.91@133 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,307 iTrader: 1 reviews	I see no reason for you to not keep it 2V. __________________ 2002 GT PI heads Twin 60mm turbos Th400 6.34@114 1/8 9.99@137 1/4 http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/DSCF5654.jpg http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...2gt/IMG060.jpg

November 22nd, 2011, 08:19 AM	#3
NickPohlAandP I like boobs!!! 2000 GT convertible dunno Join Date: May 2011 Location: Brooklet, GA Posts: 2,827 iTrader: 2 reviews	I agree. Stick with the 2V. There's a lot more involved with going 4V than just slapping heads on. Your cost will go up real quick and you'll probably find yourself going way over budget. __________________ Last time you voted to prove you aren't racist. This time prove you're not an IDIOT!!! My Garage--->http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-member-46919/

November 22nd, 2011, 08:44 AM	#4
Orange2V Regular 04 GT Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: SOMD Posts: 279 iTrader: 0 reviews	2V FTW __________________ Orange2V Build Thread

November 22nd, 2011, 09:55 AM	#5
ryeguy2006a Regular 2000 Mustang GT n/a Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Owego, NY Posts: 77 iTrader: 1 reviews	Yeah stick 2V, with cams. __________________ 2000 GT, 13" Baer Brakes, Subframe connectors, Pro 5.0 shifter, 03 Cobra Rims, etc. Sold 2005 Focus Sold, Thank god 2001 GT, 5 speed, Magnaflow cat-back and CAI. Other than that, bone stock.

November 22nd, 2011, 11:18 AM	#6
Mike113 Regular 2000 Mustang GT 14.08@98 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bradenton, Florida Posts: 439 iTrader: 0 reviews	thanks guys. Yea I'm not sure how he was gonna do all that and not go over my budget...I think I'll be happier with a cammed 2v __________________ Built NA 2v with some goodies

November 22nd, 2011, 11:52 AM	#7
Lilbitandthor Regular 2000 GT Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 59 iTrader: 0 reviews	Stay 2v on your budget. Look at the Lincoln Mark 8 conversion sticky if you want to scare yourself away from a 4v conversion. I've got a little money and some skills and I'm thinking twice about it.

November 22nd, 2011, 02:40 PM	#8
Mike113 Regular 2000 Mustang GT 14.08@98 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bradenton, Florida Posts: 439 iTrader: 0 reviews	true that. I've decided to stay 2v. This build will make it a fun car, plus I'll get the sound of cams. Nitrous down the road will be great with the compression I'm running __________________ Built NA 2v with some goodies

November 22nd, 2011, 03:08 PM	#9
cbjohnson9 Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT Vert. Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Kansas City Posts: 860 iTrader: 0 reviews	2V with a set of properly sized cams for your build. You're gonna hate it if you go to big...Do the piston have a valve relief cut into them? __________________ Mods in garage

November 22nd, 2011, 03:11 PM	#10
mattrotten Regular Black 2003 Gt 5spd 2hrs@46mph Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 391 iTrader: 1 reviews	4v heads on a 2v bottom reduces compression. its not gonna run how ya think. 2v's do fine from the factory. Plus you dnt have 2 worry about infamous head ticks with a 2v like u would a 4v.

November 22nd, 2011, 03:15 PM	#13
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,793 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	I said 4v....stock 4v heads will handle a lot of power stock compared to 2v. I like the 2v bc of the under dog status __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

November 22nd, 2011, 03:43 PM	#17
mattrotten Regular Black 2003 Gt 5spd 2hrs@46mph Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 391 iTrader: 1 reviews	hmmm in that case id go wit 4v heads. a built bottom and 4v has way more potential if ur going all motor. def 4 v then

November 22nd, 2011, 03:45 PM	#18
mattrotten Regular Black 2003 Gt 5spd 2hrs@46mph Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 391 iTrader: 1 reviews	srry, didnt read the whole thing lol

November 22nd, 2011, 03:55 PM	#19
ryeguy2006a Regular 2000 Mustang GT n/a Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Owego, NY Posts: 77 iTrader: 1 reviews	I think you made a good choice. __________________ 2000 GT, 13" Baer Brakes, Subframe connectors, Pro 5.0 shifter, 03 Cobra Rims, etc. Sold 2005 Focus Sold, Thank god 2001 GT, 5 speed, Magnaflow cat-back and CAI. Other than that, bone stock.

November 22nd, 2011, 03:56 PM	#20
NickPohlAandP I like boobs!!! 2000 GT convertible dunno Join Date: May 2011 Location: Brooklet, GA Posts: 2,827 iTrader: 2 reviews	Aaaaaand, if you're staying with a PI type head make sure you get your pistons notched. __________________ Last time you voted to prove you aren't racist. This time prove you're not an IDIOT!!! My Garage--->http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-member-46919/

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