Price for built bottom end

DarknessGT · November 24th, 2011, 05:18 PM

Few questions for built bottom end...

1. For a shop that does good work, what would the price be to have forged internals installed in my GT?

2. Are there any sites that actually sell forged internals brand new?

3. Since its for my Turbo build I would go with a lower cc piston like 38 correct?

Thank You People!

Darkness

stal94gt · November 24th, 2011, 05:35 PM

holy crap no on the 38cc pistons. a 18cc dish would work plenty fine for a turbo setup. comanys like mod max, mmr, dss, fox lake, and al papitto all make good modular motors along with selling the parts. how much they cost depends on how good of a motor you want. set your hp goals, better yet what et's you would like to run and go from there. my last motor cost me a little over 6 grand and the total project was a little over 20 grand

CobraStang161 · November 24th, 2011, 06:32 PM

I usually charge $3000 to build someone a shortblock.

DarknessGT · November 24th, 2011, 06:54 PM

haha thanks stal I had no clue on the whole CC to ratio thing to be honest. Still dont. Well I will look into MMR since that is the only company I am familiar with. Jazzer talked me into building my suspension and brakes, etc before I just go throwing an extra 400 horses at my car.

My whole goal is to have a 100% reliable mid 11 sec DD that I woudnt think twice about driving across country and still get equal if not better gas mileage then I do now ( 300 miles to a tank ).

Cobra - 3k??? That would be install of internals/heads/poweradder/tune correct?

stal94gt · November 24th, 2011, 06:59 PM

3k is short block only, no heads, cam or anything else. a compleat motor build with heads cam, assembled, degreed, and balanced runs 5000 and up.

CobraStang161 · November 24th, 2011, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by DarknessGT

haha thanks stal I had no clue on the whole CC to ratio thing to be honest. Still dont. Well I will look into MMR since that is the only company I am familiar with. Jazzer talked me into building my suspension and brakes, etc before I just go throwing an extra 400 horses at my car.

My whole goal is to have a 100% reliable mid 11 sec DD that I woudnt think twice about driving across country and still get equal if not better gas mileage then I do now ( 300 miles to a tank ).

Cobra - 3k??? That would be install of internals/heads/poweradder/tune correct?

No that's shortblock only. I charge around $5000 for a complete motor rebuild.

DickH · November 24th, 2011, 08:12 PM

well you could buy rods and pistons for not too much, if your crank is good and you aren't trying to make a lot of power you dont need to replace it. MMR sells stuff for a pretty competitive price, hurry up and see if they have any holiday specials that will let you get what you need cheap.

DarknessGT · November 24th, 2011, 08:12 PM

haha damn! Alright cool, Well I am gonna get everything I need first. This is going to be expensive lol

blownstang · November 24th, 2011, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by CobraStang161

I usually charge $3000 to build someone a shortblock.

This is only labor or does it include the parts also? That's damn expensivce if it's only labor. Shops around here charger around $1500 to assemble a shortblock, and people think that's high. You can get a nice 900-1000hp capable rotating assembly for $1800-$2000.

DarknessGT · November 25th, 2011, 02:45 AM

Yea I found an MMR 900 do it yourself kit I am probably going to order when the time comes. Still got MM's MaxGrip Box to pick up, then Viper spec T56 with Spec stage 3+, THEEEENNNN the engine.

RFM 40th V6 · November 25th, 2011, 02:45 PM

I built my short block for 4200. Labor was 800 of that. I only had him do the bottoms end. I assembled everything else.

That's an

Mmr 1000 4.6 asy 9.5 cr
Stage 2 turbo cams
Mmr windage tray
Cobra pump and pickup
All arp hardware
And all the misc gaskets and seals needed.

DarknessGT · November 26th, 2011, 02:35 AM

Well I live in a barracks so something like assembling the engine while my car sits some where with no drivetrain is not gonna happen. Plus the Marine Corp is not gonna give me a week off to dick around with my car, which is about how long it would take me to do it with a " how to " manual lol.

CobraStang161 · November 26th, 2011, 05:27 AM

Originally Posted by blownstang

This is only labor or does it include the parts also? That's damn expensivce if it's only labor. Shops around here charger around $1500 to assemble a shortblock, and people think that's high. You can get a nice 900-1000hp capable rotating assembly for $1800-$2000.

you get what you pay for. None of my engines ive built have blown up

jivepepper · November 26th, 2011, 06:30 AM

I paid a little over 3k for my SB shipped to my door.

MMR MOD 900

New 03/04 Cobra block
18cc Manley flycut Pistons
Manley H beam rods
Forged Cobra Crank
ARP fasteners/hardware
MMR oil pump with cyro treated gears

I've beat the piss out of this SB for 5 years now and it still runs strong. No smoking or excessive oil use.

November 24th, 2011, 05:18 PM	#1
DarknessGT Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 891 iTrader: 0 reviews	Price for built bottom end Few questions for built bottom end... 1. For a shop that does good work, what would the price be to have forged internals installed in my GT? 2. Are there any sites that actually sell forged internals brand new? 3. Since its for my Turbo build I would go with a lower cc piston like 38 correct? Thank You People! Darkness __________________ BLACK STANG CREW MEMBER #YOUDONTSAYTHAT

November 24th, 2011, 05:35 PM	#2
stal94gt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 mustang v6 ;) slow Join Date: May 2010 Location: eglin afb florida Posts: 10,197 iTrader: 2 reviews	holy crap no on the 38cc pistons. a 18cc dish would work plenty fine for a turbo setup. comanys like mod max, mmr, dss, fox lake, and al papitto all make good modular motors along with selling the parts. how much they cost depends on how good of a motor you want. set your hp goals, better yet what et's you would like to run and go from there. my last motor cost me a little over 6 grand and the total project was a little over 20 grand __________________ bone stock from the factory!

November 24th, 2011, 06:32 PM	#3
CobraStang161 Hardcore Enthusiast 4V twin turbo 2000 GT I live my life a quarter mile at a time xD Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 1,739 iTrader: 0 reviews	I usually charge $3000 to build someone a shortblock. __________________ 2000 Mustang GT Built 4V Motor with Sullivan Single Plane Intake Custom 66MM BB TT kit Borla XR-1 Dumped before rear Moser built 9" Rear 35 spline WaveTrac Diff with 3.75s 35 spline Moser axles 14PT roll cage and minitubbed

November 24th, 2011, 06:54 PM	#4
DarknessGT Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 891 iTrader: 0 reviews	haha thanks stal I had no clue on the whole CC to ratio thing to be honest. Still dont. Well I will look into MMR since that is the only company I am familiar with. Jazzer talked me into building my suspension and brakes, etc before I just go throwing an extra 400 horses at my car. My whole goal is to have a 100% reliable mid 11 sec DD that I woudnt think twice about driving across country and still get equal if not better gas mileage then I do now ( 300 miles to a tank ). Cobra - 3k??? That would be install of internals/heads/poweradder/tune correct? __________________ BLACK STANG CREW MEMBER #YOUDONTSAYTHAT

November 24th, 2011, 06:59 PM	#5
stal94gt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 mustang v6 ;) slow Join Date: May 2010 Location: eglin afb florida Posts: 10,197 iTrader: 2 reviews	3k is short block only, no heads, cam or anything else. a compleat motor build with heads cam, assembled, degreed, and balanced runs 5000 and up. __________________ bone stock from the factory!

November 24th, 2011, 08:12 PM	#7
DickH MM Fanatic 2003 gt 5.4 32v on the way Join Date: May 2007 Location: Omaha Posts: 4,191 iTrader: 2 reviews	well you could buy rods and pistons for not too much, if your crank is good and you aren't trying to make a lot of power you dont need to replace it. MMR sells stuff for a pretty competitive price, hurry up and see if they have any holiday specials that will let you get what you need cheap. __________________ 2003 Mustang gt - usual mods - slowly working on 5.4 swap 2004 srt4 - Stock DD/winter beater Click here for your tuning needs Before asking a gearing related question click THIS link and enjoy all your saved time.

November 25th, 2011, 02:45 AM	#10
DarknessGT Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 891 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yea I found an MMR 900 do it yourself kit I am probably going to order when the time comes. Still got MM's MaxGrip Box to pick up, then Viper spec T56 with Spec stage 3+, THEEEENNNN the engine. __________________ BLACK STANG CREW MEMBER #YOUDONTSAYTHAT

November 26th, 2011, 02:35 AM	#12
DarknessGT Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 891 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well I live in a barracks so something like assembling the engine while my car sits some where with no drivetrain is not gonna happen. Plus the Marine Corp is not gonna give me a week off to dick around with my car, which is about how long it would take me to do it with a " how to " manual lol. __________________ BLACK STANG CREW MEMBER #YOUDONTSAYTHAT

November 26th, 2011, 06:30 AM	#14
jivepepper I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Under a sombrero Posts: 5,025 iTrader: 1 reviews	I paid a little over 3k for my SB shipped to my door. MMR MOD 900 New 03/04 Cobra block 18cc Manley flycut Pistons Manley H beam rods Forged Cobra Crank ARP fasteners/hardware MMR oil pump with cyro treated gears I've beat the piss out of this SB for 5 years now and it still runs strong. No smoking or excessive oil use. __________________ 665/541 WHP/WTQ 4.6L SOHC 2V ON 93 OCTANE PUMP GAS. NO METH INJ., NO E85, NO RACE GAS, N2O BABY BOTTLES! TRAP=POWER: 11.01 @135, IN SUMMER HEAT, 1350' TRACK, 315/35/17 DR'S

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