Necessary for superchargers?

xedubx · May 31st, 2007, 04:09 PM

i've read a ton on here and after contemplating buying $3000-$4000 worth of na mods it seems to me that most agree that tossing on a s/c is the way to go. i think i've decided on the kenne bell but before i do that... is anything absolutely necessary to have on the car first? thanks guys, just trying to get most bang for my buck

DrHolliday · May 31st, 2007, 04:14 PM

Kenne Bell is a very complete kit and replaces most of the parts you would put on the car anyways. If you plan on getting the supercharger and their MAF with CAI You will be all set. An option might be to get headers, an aftermarket mid pipe and a nice sounding cat-back system.

I'll might get alot of mixed comments for saying this, But I would sugest shorty headers with the KB. Shorties promote low end torque wich the KB will give you lots of that. I have that exact setup

RyanGT · May 31st, 2007, 04:18 PM

Can get a bigger throttlebody which is not needed but helps a lot with a supercharger and thats 200-250 bucks. And the MAF cold air that you can get extra is a good idea. Other than that the kb kit has all you need for the most part.

ChrisJ · May 31st, 2007, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by DrHolliday

Kenne Bell is a very complete kit and replaces most of the parts you would put on the car anyways. If you plan on getting the supercharger and their MAF with CAI You will be all set. An option might be to get headers, an aftermarket mid pipe and a nice sounding cat-back system.

I'll might get alot of mixed comments for saying this, But I would sugest shorty headers with the KB. Shorties promote low end torque wich the KB will give you lots of that. I have that exact setup

And a set of 1 - 2 step colder plugs...

RyanGT · May 31st, 2007, 04:25 PM

I also recommend a tune. The KB tune had me running very rich.

ChrisJ · May 31st, 2007, 04:29 PM

The canned tune will ahve you rich...Thats how they keep it safe...

I have heard good and bad about them...Back in the day i knwo the tunes sucked...But DrHolliday used their canned tune and had it checked on a dyno and it was alittle fat but nothing to horrid...

I always recommend at least you check the A/F before hitting boost...

SWEET2KSTANG · May 31st, 2007, 04:34 PM

there is nothing that absolutly needs to be done before, just after. tune, plugs, bap maybe will be needed. to get the most i recommend 75mm t/b, 90mm maf, headers, and an 8 rib conversion.

DrHolliday · May 31st, 2007, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisJ

Originally Posted by DrHolliday

Kenne Bell is a very complete kit and replaces most of the parts you would put on the car anyways. If you plan on getting the supercharger and their MAF with CAI You will be all set. An option might be to get headers, an aftermarket mid pipe and a nice sounding cat-back system.

I'll might get alot of mixed comments for saying this, But I would sugest shorty headers with the KB. Shorties promote low end torque wich the KB will give you lots of that. I have that exact setup

And a set of 1 - 2 step colder plugs...

Its like a bad dream that keeps coming back to haunt me :lala

shroom · May 31st, 2007, 09:16 PM

Whats the 1-2 step colder plugs for? why do you need them?

DrHolliday · May 31st, 2007, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by shroom

Whats the 1-2 step colder plugs for? why do you need them?

I beleive its the gap more then the temp of the plugs that matters most. But a hotter plug is good for burning oil if the motor is old. My guess is you want to go colder b/c with all the extra air and fuel in the engine its going to run hottor and you don't want to burn holes in the tops of your pistons.

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just making an educated guess here

acmillr · May 31st, 2007, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by DrHolliday

Originally Posted by shroom

Whats the 1-2 step colder plugs for? why do you need them?

I beleive its the gap more then the temp of the plugs that matters most. But a hotter plug is good for burning oil if the motor is old. My guess is you want to go colder b/c with all the extra air and fuel in the engine its going to run hottor and you don't want to burn holes in the tops of your pistons.

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just making an educated guess here

All the extra air rushing into the cylinder will cause turbulence and actually blow the spark out if your plugs are gapped too far open.

DrHolliday · May 31st, 2007, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by acmillr

All the extra air rushing into the cylinder will cause turbulence and actually blow the spark out if your plugs are gapped too far open.

Thats the problem I had when I first installed my KB. I did not regap the plugs, so I had the stock gap setting on the plugs and it would cause the car to miss when the boost built up. KB calls for a gap of .035

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xedubx Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lonestarville Posts: 68 iTrader: 0 reviews	Necessary for superchargers? i've read a ton on here and after contemplating buying $3000-$4000 worth of na mods it seems to me that most agree that tossing on a s/c is the way to go. i think i've decided on the kenne bell but before i do that... is anything absolutely necessary to have on the car first? thanks guys, just trying to get most bang for my buck __________________ Go Baby Go!

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DrHolliday Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Port, NC Posts: 717 iTrader: 0 reviews	Kenne Bell is a very complete kit and replaces most of the parts you would put on the car anyways. If you plan on getting the supercharger and their MAF with CAI You will be all set. An option might be to get headers, an aftermarket mid pipe and a nice sounding cat-back system. I'll might get alot of mixed comments for saying this, But I would sugest shorty headers with the KB. Shorties promote low end torque wich the KB will give you lots of that. I have that exact setup __________________ Mustangless atm 2006 2500 HD Diesel. Built allison trans and other goodies

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ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 38,220 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 10 reviews	The canned tune will ahve you rich...Thats how they keep it safe... I have heard good and bad about them...Back in the day i knwo the tunes sucked...But DrHolliday used their canned tune and had it checked on a dyno and it was alittle fat but nothing to horrid... I always recommend at least you check the A/F before hitting boost... __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

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SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,540 iTrader: 8 reviews	there is nothing that absolutly needs to be done before, just after. tune, plugs, bap maybe will be needed. to get the most i recommend 75mm t/b, 90mm maf, headers, and an 8 rib conversion. __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner under construction as well (04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance

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shroom Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 165 iTrader: 0 reviews	Whats the 1-2 step colder plugs for? why do you need them? __________________ Please PM me if you find out of any good deals on a terminator! Thanks! "8/6/1945 little boy was dropped on Hiroshima......8/9/1945 FAT MAN was dropped on Nagasaki.....8/1/2002 Ford Motor Co. dropped the TERMINATOR on your Japanese ass"

May 31st, 2007, 04:18 PM	#3
RyanGT MM Fanatic 2000 GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lynnwood, Washington Posts: 4,258 iTrader: 4 reviews	Can get a bigger throttlebody which is not needed but helps a lot with a supercharger and thats 200-250 bucks. And the MAF cold air that you can get extra is a good idea. Other than that the kb kit has all you need for the most part.

May 31st, 2007, 04:25 PM	#5
RyanGT MM Fanatic 2000 GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lynnwood, Washington Posts: 4,258 iTrader: 4 reviews	I also recommend a tune. The KB tune had me running very rich.

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