Tech ? about Saleen 200 mph Gauge Cluster

MeZ · June 1st, 2007, 03:10 PM

I just got the 200 mph Saleen gauges .. and I have them installed all working and what not .. but how do you calibrate the speedo to read out right on that .. right now its reading like a regular gt 150mph speedo ... I thought they were gonna be right .. but oh well its really not a big deal .. but can a hand held tuner do it or what ?! .. Thanks in advance !

Drgnracin72 · June 1st, 2007, 04:34 PM

hmm, the computer you replaced out of your cluster into this one should have it right. it was working right on my car. ill look into it for you though

MeZ · June 1st, 2007, 05:02 PM

Everything works .. except the speed is way off .. 1500 rpms cruising in 3rd has me at 55 mph .. any way ... I know the dealer and set the ecu right but thats gonna cost .. if you can find a cheap way of setting it .. that would be great . btw .. did you have it wired straight into your headlight knob .. i just spliced it to the power source and grounded it to the frame .. I can't tell if its glowing or not b/c its so bright ...

Drgnracin72 · June 1st, 2007, 09:18 PM

no i didnt have it wired wired i just plugged it all up same as the stock ones and it all worked

MeZ · June 3rd, 2007, 06:31 PM

thats cool .. It works fine ... it just had that wire from the gauges like it was indeglo or something so I wired it up and it works fine for me too .. just gotta get that gauge recaled .. Maybe b/c I had to swap the brain and the circut board it doesn't work .. it just wouldn't start up with the other circut board .. it would crank .. but never turn over and the theft light would glow .. does that sound right ?

ChrisJ · June 3rd, 2007, 07:17 PM

Yeah that has to do with the PATS system...

If you dont use your own board then you have to have your PATS system reset for the new board...

When I put my Lunar Set-up in my car I just used my old board...But since you went to the 200MPH Saleen then you will need to get your computer set-up to work with the 200mph speedo...

Do you know someone that works for ford? Becuase that would help ya out alot...

I know it said in the directions that came with my lunar cluster said that replacing the board will mess with the PATS system...Thats why it would not start and such with the other circuit board...

MeZ · June 4th, 2007, 12:08 AM

Yeah .. the car wouldn't crank with the old board .. the lil brain thing that controls the odometer and engine readouts is fine .. its just the big baord with all the leds in that won't swap .. or it would be calibrated fine .. do you know which would be cheaper .. calibrate the new board or have the old one set for my car to work ?

Invictus · June 4th, 2007, 03:23 AM

i think it is possible to disable the PATS system by way of predator or SCT tuner.. contact your tuner and ask him about that he can probably get you a tune that will allow you to disable it for nothing

ChrisJ · June 4th, 2007, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by MeZ

Yeah .. the car wouldn't crank with the old board .. the lil brain thing that controls the odometer and engine readouts is fine .. its just the big baord with all the leds in that won't swap .. or it would be calibrated fine .. do you know which would be cheaper .. calibrate the new board or have the old one set for my car to work ?

I dont know how much it runs...I will ask my friend what the price on the pats cal will cost ya...Andyou can go from there...

Casper98GT · June 4th, 2007, 04:43 PM

it just wouldn't start up with the other circut board .. it would crank .. but never turn over and the theft light would glow .. does that sound right ?

Even though im some "young punk kid" and im a "ford tech that probably is a lube tech"

Youre IC module needs to be recalibrated. If you want to do this you must have both youre old cluster and new cluster. Then bring it to the ford dealer and they can reprogram the IC to the new cluster and everyhing will be ok. You have a PATS system and you have a IC module. Thats why it just cranks and doesnt start.

All in all youre probably looking at 1hr at a dealership. SO what ever it costs for an hr. of diag.

MeZ · June 4th, 2007, 11:19 PM

Look casper .. I was just talking shit back and forth .. you know we both were .. like we all know .. its the internet .. unless we really know each other .. who knows what we really are .. but thanks for the info ...

But why do they need both clusters .. I put both my old circut board and odometer box thing ( wonderful tech. jargon .. I know ) into the new "gauge pod" .. so basically its like my old gauge .. just with new saleen faces .. can't they just take what I have now and calibrate the stuff for the 200 mph and the different rpms .. or they have to have both to do the calibration .. thats all I'm asking ... plus my gauges read kilometers .. can they change the odometer to read miles ?

HMUSN · June 4th, 2007, 11:24 PM

the reason they need your old cluster is to see if you tried messing with your odometer(VERY illegal)

Casper98GT · June 5th, 2007, 07:39 AM

No thats not the reason they need the new ones. I already explained everything. Its because youre car has IC modules and PATS systems. You need to bring it to ford dealership with both. I recommend keeping the old on in first. Then they can reprogram everything to where you need it.

HMUSN · June 5th, 2007, 10:08 AM

^ thought that if you wanted to switch out your cluster you had the bring the new one to ford because they didn't want you messing with the odometer.

I stand corrected.

Casper98GT · June 5th, 2007, 10:32 AM

The reason he is having the problems he is is because of what i said. Thats why you need to have a dealership do it.

^ thought that if you wanted to switch out your cluster you had the bring the new one to ford because they didn't want you messing with the odometer.

Look at older cars...you can swap them out without going to a dealer.

MustangMatt96GT · June 5th, 2007, 12:36 PM

In some states its illegal to touch your gauge cluster for that reason and you have to take it some where to be done! I dont know what states, but I read that somewhere in a magizine!

MeZ · June 5th, 2007, 01:28 PM

So Casper,

Should I put the circuit board that came with the Saleen gauges back in, or just leave it out I have it now, with the saleen gauges on my pod with my circuit board etc ....

Casper98GT · June 5th, 2007, 02:16 PM

It would be in youre best interest and would make things easier if you had the circuitry in the cluster it came in and then have it installed like that.

MeZ · June 5th, 2007, 04:20 PM

Thanks

Casper98GT · June 5th, 2007, 04:54 PM

Youre welcome

June 1st, 2007, 03:10 PM	#1
MeZ Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Concord, North Carolina Posts: 966 iTrader: 0 reviews	Tech ? about Saleen 200 mph Gauge Cluster I just got the 200 mph Saleen gauges .. and I have them installed all working and what not .. but how do you calibrate the speedo to read out right on that .. right now its reading like a regular gt 150mph speedo ... I thought they were gonna be right .. but oh well its really not a big deal .. but can a hand held tuner do it or what ?! .. Thanks in advance ! __________________ Car For Sale on Autotrader.com 04 Silver GT 32K Miles Parts 4 Sale: 18" Wheels SSR GT3 replicas w/ tires Steeda Tri-Ax 10lb N20 Bottle w. gauge (2) Kirkey Racing Seats w/ RCI 5 Pt. belts Steeda & Momo shift knobs SB GT Spoiler

June 1st, 2007, 04:34 PM	#2
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,635 iTrader: 2 reviews	hmm, the computer you replaced out of your cluster into this one should have it right. it was working right on my car. ill look into it for you though __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

June 1st, 2007, 05:02 PM	#3
MeZ Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Concord, North Carolina Posts: 966 iTrader: 0 reviews	Everything works .. except the speed is way off .. 1500 rpms cruising in 3rd has me at 55 mph .. any way ... I know the dealer and set the ecu right but thats gonna cost .. if you can find a cheap way of setting it .. that would be great . btw .. did you have it wired straight into your headlight knob .. i just spliced it to the power source and grounded it to the frame .. I can't tell if its glowing or not b/c its so bright ... __________________ Car For Sale on Autotrader.com 04 Silver GT 32K Miles Parts 4 Sale: 18" Wheels SSR GT3 replicas w/ tires Steeda Tri-Ax 10lb N20 Bottle w. gauge (2) Kirkey Racing Seats w/ RCI 5 Pt. belts Steeda & Momo shift knobs SB GT Spoiler

June 1st, 2007, 09:18 PM	#4
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,635 iTrader: 2 reviews	no i didnt have it wired wired i just plugged it all up same as the stock ones and it all worked __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

June 3rd, 2007, 06:31 PM	#5
MeZ Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Concord, North Carolina Posts: 966 iTrader: 0 reviews	thats cool .. It works fine ... it just had that wire from the gauges like it was indeglo or something so I wired it up and it works fine for me too .. just gotta get that gauge recaled .. Maybe b/c I had to swap the brain and the circut board it doesn't work .. it just wouldn't start up with the other circut board .. it would crank .. but never turn over and the theft light would glow .. does that sound right ? __________________ Car For Sale on Autotrader.com 04 Silver GT 32K Miles Parts 4 Sale: 18" Wheels SSR GT3 replicas w/ tires Steeda Tri-Ax 10lb N20 Bottle w. gauge (2) Kirkey Racing Seats w/ RCI 5 Pt. belts Steeda & Momo shift knobs SB GT Spoiler

June 3rd, 2007, 07:17 PM	#6
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 38,220 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 10 reviews	Yeah that has to do with the PATS system... If you dont use your own board then you have to have your PATS system reset for the new board... When I put my Lunar Set-up in my car I just used my old board...But since you went to the 200MPH Saleen then you will need to get your computer set-up to work with the 200mph speedo... Do you know someone that works for ford? Becuase that would help ya out alot... I know it said in the directions that came with my lunar cluster said that replacing the board will mess with the PATS system...Thats why it would not start and such with the other circuit board... __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

June 4th, 2007, 12:08 AM	#7
MeZ Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Concord, North Carolina Posts: 966 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yeah .. the car wouldn't crank with the old board .. the lil brain thing that controls the odometer and engine readouts is fine .. its just the big baord with all the leds in that won't swap .. or it would be calibrated fine .. do you know which would be cheaper .. calibrate the new board or have the old one set for my car to work ? __________________ Car For Sale on Autotrader.com 04 Silver GT 32K Miles Parts 4 Sale: 18" Wheels SSR GT3 replicas w/ tires Steeda Tri-Ax 10lb N20 Bottle w. gauge (2) Kirkey Racing Seats w/ RCI 5 Pt. belts Steeda & Momo shift knobs SB GT Spoiler

June 4th, 2007, 03:23 AM	#8
Invictus Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,354 iTrader: 0 reviews	i think it is possible to disable the PATS system by way of predator or SCT tuner.. contact your tuner and ask him about that he can probably get you a tune that will allow you to disable it for nothing

June 4th, 2007, 11:19 PM	#11
MeZ Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Concord, North Carolina Posts: 966 iTrader: 0 reviews	Look casper .. I was just talking shit back and forth .. you know we both were .. like we all know .. its the internet .. unless we really know each other .. who knows what we really are .. but thanks for the info ... But why do they need both clusters .. I put both my old circut board and odometer box thing ( wonderful tech. jargon .. I know ) into the new "gauge pod" .. so basically its like my old gauge .. just with new saleen faces .. can't they just take what I have now and calibrate the stuff for the 200 mph and the different rpms .. or they have to have both to do the calibration .. thats all I'm asking ... plus my gauges read kilometers .. can they change the odometer to read miles ? __________________ Car For Sale on Autotrader.com 04 Silver GT 32K Miles Parts 4 Sale: 18" Wheels SSR GT3 replicas w/ tires Steeda Tri-Ax 10lb N20 Bottle w. gauge (2) Kirkey Racing Seats w/ RCI 5 Pt. belts Steeda & Momo shift knobs SB GT Spoiler

June 4th, 2007, 11:24 PM	#12
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	the reason they need your old cluster is to see if you tried messing with your odometer(VERY illegal) __________________

June 5th, 2007, 07:39 AM	#13
Casper98GT Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE Posts: 2,393 iTrader: 0 reviews	No thats not the reason they need the new ones. I already explained everything. Its because youre car has IC modules and PATS systems. You need to bring it to ford dealership with both. I recommend keeping the old on in first. Then they can reprogram everything to where you need it. __________________ 91 LX, 5spd. Ex:Toyota/Ford tech Marine Machinery Technician, Department of Defense.

June 5th, 2007, 10:08 AM	#14
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	^ thought that if you wanted to switch out your cluster you had the bring the new one to ford because they didn't want you messing with the odometer. I stand corrected. __________________

June 5th, 2007, 12:36 PM	#16
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,690 iTrader: 3 reviews	In some states its illegal to touch your gauge cluster for that reason and you have to take it some where to be done! I dont know what states, but I read that somewhere in a magizine! __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

June 5th, 2007, 01:28 PM	#17
MeZ Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Concord, North Carolina Posts: 966 iTrader: 0 reviews	So Casper, Should I put the circuit board that came with the Saleen gauges back in, or just leave it out I have it now, with the saleen gauges on my pod with my circuit board etc .... __________________ Car For Sale on Autotrader.com 04 Silver GT 32K Miles Parts 4 Sale: 18" Wheels SSR GT3 replicas w/ tires Steeda Tri-Ax 10lb N20 Bottle w. gauge (2) Kirkey Racing Seats w/ RCI 5 Pt. belts Steeda & Momo shift knobs SB GT Spoiler

June 5th, 2007, 02:16 PM	#18
Casper98GT Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE Posts: 2,393 iTrader: 0 reviews	It would be in youre best interest and would make things easier if you had the circuitry in the cluster it came in and then have it installed like that. __________________ 91 LX, 5spd. Ex:Toyota/Ford tech Marine Machinery Technician, Department of Defense.

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June 5th, 2007, 04:20 PM	#19
MeZ Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Concord, North Carolina Posts: 966 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks __________________ Car For Sale on Autotrader.com 04 Silver GT 32K Miles Parts 4 Sale: 18" Wheels SSR GT3 replicas w/ tires Steeda Tri-Ax 10lb N20 Bottle w. gauge (2) Kirkey Racing Seats w/ RCI 5 Pt. belts Steeda & Momo shift knobs SB GT Spoiler

June 5th, 2007, 04:54 PM	#20
Casper98GT Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE Posts: 2,393 iTrader: 0 reviews	Youre welcome __________________ 91 LX, 5spd. Ex:Toyota/Ford tech Marine Machinery Technician, Department of Defense.

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