Need info on a CAM upgrade!

USMCstang01gt · December 28th, 2011, 01:34 AM

Im looking to buying the Comp cam stage 2 camshafts off AM. it reccomends me purchasing the adjustable cam gears for an extra $290 more. are those really needed or are the stock ones just fine?

NickPohlAandP · December 28th, 2011, 01:59 AM

Read what I put in your other thread. Don't get Comp cams for TF heads. Get TF cams. The TF heads are completely redesigned and the TF cams are best suited to them. As for the adjustable cam gears, you will absolutely need them. When I degreed my cams I ended up with the passenger side gear retarded by 6 degrees and the driver side advanced 5 to get both cams to the recommended 110 degree intake centerline.

number1gt · December 28th, 2011, 01:59 AM

Im running the comps without it...works just fine

NickPohlAandP · December 28th, 2011, 02:00 AM

And get some aviation quality bolts that are drilled for safety wire.

USMCstang01gt · December 28th, 2011, 02:18 AM

i just have a SOHC. and alright! thanks for the info!

USMCstang01gt · December 28th, 2011, 02:19 AM

where did you get your TF stage 2's at??

number1gt · December 28th, 2011, 02:21 AM

Who said anything about you not having a 2v?

NickPohlAandP · December 28th, 2011, 02:21 AM

I understand that you have SOHC, but you will have to degree each cam individually. I am SOHC too. The reason I did not go with a crank gear that has the different notches to advance and retard the cams is because of exactly what I ran into. I wouldn't have been able to advance one cam and retard the other because both chains are on the same crank gear. Get the adjustable cam gears.

NickPohlAandP · December 28th, 2011, 02:22 AM

I got my TF stage 2's from a guy on ebay, they were brand new. Gimme a sec and I'll put up a link

NickPohlAandP · December 28th, 2011, 02:25 AM

Trick Flow 2V Stage 2 Cams - 4.6/5.4 | eBay

I had them at my house from this seller in about a week.

USMCstang01gt · December 28th, 2011, 02:35 AM

awesome man. ha they have the exact same cams on summit for the same price. i guess its just where i want to get them from. the TF heads dont come with the rockers. did you upgrade yours?

NickPohlAandP · December 28th, 2011, 02:37 AM

I'm using stock rockers. Just reuse the ones you have. As for the price, I bought mine a few weeks before Christmas so I got them for $479. I guess that was just a lucky find for me. They came with a hat too though :-)

USMCstang01gt · December 28th, 2011, 02:48 AM

sweet. get to save money then. and ohh shoooot(:
lucky..... so with those new heads and cams im getting. pluss the xpipe, shortys, FR intake manifold, JLT cai, the FM 10's and an SCT tunner. i wonder how much power im gnna get?

number1gt · December 28th, 2011, 02:57 AM

You shold get longtubes

NickPohlAandP · December 28th, 2011, 03:01 AM

Originally Posted by USMCstang01gt

... i wonder how much power im gnna get?

Probably not as much as you'd like to see, but with a good tune it will be a noticeable increase. I'm hoping to see 350 at the rear with my setup, and that's really reaching.

Macattac · December 28th, 2011, 08:13 AM

350 incl or excl the NOS shot?

NickPohlAandP · December 28th, 2011, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by Macattac

350 incl or excl the NOS shot?

You're kidding right?

hooliganryder · December 28th, 2011, 09:09 AM

Get the adjustable crank gear it's alot cheaper.. And it's two separate gears so u can adjust each cam separate.. Thats what I have on my Cms stage 2 cams and have had no issues.. And I had send my cams to modular head shop to have them degreed.. Nick does and awesome job and I had my cams back in less than a week

aarongt2000 · December 30th, 2011, 01:17 AM

i was at dez racing about two months ago and wih trick flow heads on a gt. he told me the stage 1 cams made more power and tq over the stage 2s. i dont remember what rps he stopped he pull at but it was a comparison woh both cams with both N/A and procharged? maybe vortech? just thought i would throw hat in there. it was a test for muscle mustangs and fast fords magazine. maybe it will be printed soon? ill be looking for that one

NickPohlAandP · December 30th, 2011, 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by aarongt2000

...he told me the stage 1 cams made more power and tq over the stage 2s...

I find that hard to believe. The stage 2's have .030 more lift, a bit more duration, and a wider LSA to keep the powerband low enough to be useable in a stock engine but still work well with a built engine. I'd like to see some real dyno sheets for that claim.

December 28th, 2011, 01:34 AM	#1
USMCstang01gt Newbie 2001 Mustang GT 13.2@110 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: seguin texas Posts: 7 iTrader: 0 reviews	Need info on a CAM upgrade! Im looking to buying the Comp cam stage 2 camshafts off AM. it reccomends me purchasing the adjustable cam gears for an extra $290 more. are those really needed or are the stock ones just fine?

December 28th, 2011, 01:59 AM	#2
NickPohlAandP I like boobs!!! 2000 GT convertible dunno Join Date: May 2011 Location: Brooklet, GA Posts: 2,827 iTrader: 2 reviews	Read what I put in your other thread. Don't get Comp cams for TF heads. Get TF cams. The TF heads are completely redesigned and the TF cams are best suited to them. As for the adjustable cam gears, you will absolutely need them. When I degreed my cams I ended up with the passenger side gear retarded by 6 degrees and the driver side advanced 5 to get both cams to the recommended 110 degree intake centerline. __________________ Last time you voted to prove you aren't racist. This time prove you're not an IDIOT!!! My Garage--->http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-member-46919/

December 28th, 2011, 01:59 AM	#3
number1gt Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 mustang gt Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,896 iTrader: 1 reviews	Im running the comps without it...works just fine __________________ Rock stock

December 28th, 2011, 02:00 AM	#4
NickPohlAandP I like boobs!!! 2000 GT convertible dunno Join Date: May 2011 Location: Brooklet, GA Posts: 2,827 iTrader: 2 reviews	And get some aviation quality bolts that are drilled for safety wire. __________________ Last time you voted to prove you aren't racist. This time prove you're not an IDIOT!!! My Garage--->http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-member-46919/

December 28th, 2011, 02:21 AM	#7
number1gt Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 mustang gt Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,896 iTrader: 1 reviews	Who said anything about you not having a 2v? __________________ Rock stock

December 28th, 2011, 02:18 AM	#5
USMCstang01gt Newbie 2001 Mustang GT 13.2@110 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: seguin texas Posts: 7 iTrader: 0 reviews	i just have a SOHC. and alright! thanks for the info!

December 28th, 2011, 02:19 AM	#6
USMCstang01gt Newbie 2001 Mustang GT 13.2@110 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: seguin texas Posts: 7 iTrader: 0 reviews	where did you get your TF stage 2's at??

December 28th, 2011, 02:22 AM	#9
NickPohlAandP I like boobs!!! 2000 GT convertible dunno Join Date: May 2011 Location: Brooklet, GA Posts: 2,827 iTrader: 2 reviews	I got my TF stage 2's from a guy on ebay, they were brand new. Gimme a sec and I'll put up a link __________________ Last time you voted to prove you aren't racist. This time prove you're not an IDIOT!!! My Garage--->http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-member-46919/

December 28th, 2011, 02:25 AM	#10
NickPohlAandP I like boobs!!! 2000 GT convertible dunno Join Date: May 2011 Location: Brooklet, GA Posts: 2,827 iTrader: 2 reviews	Trick Flow 2V Stage 2 Cams - 4.6/5.4 \| eBay I had them at my house from this seller in about a week. __________________ Last time you voted to prove you aren't racist. This time prove you're not an IDIOT!!! My Garage--->http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-member-46919/

December 28th, 2011, 02:35 AM	#11
USMCstang01gt Newbie 2001 Mustang GT 13.2@110 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: seguin texas Posts: 7 iTrader: 0 reviews	awesome man. ha they have the exact same cams on summit for the same price. i guess its just where i want to get them from. the TF heads dont come with the rockers. did you upgrade yours?

December 28th, 2011, 02:37 AM	#12
NickPohlAandP I like boobs!!! 2000 GT convertible dunno Join Date: May 2011 Location: Brooklet, GA Posts: 2,827 iTrader: 2 reviews	I'm using stock rockers. Just reuse the ones you have. As for the price, I bought mine a few weeks before Christmas so I got them for $479. I guess that was just a lucky find for me. They came with a hat too though :-) __________________ Last time you voted to prove you aren't racist. This time prove you're not an IDIOT!!! My Garage--->http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-member-46919/

December 28th, 2011, 02:48 AM	#13
USMCstang01gt Newbie 2001 Mustang GT 13.2@110 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: seguin texas Posts: 7 iTrader: 0 reviews	sweet. get to save money then. and ohh shoooot(: lucky..... so with those new heads and cams im getting. pluss the xpipe, shortys, FR intake manifold, JLT cai, the FM 10's and an SCT tunner. i wonder how much power im gnna get?

December 28th, 2011, 02:57 AM	#14
number1gt Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 mustang gt Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,896 iTrader: 1 reviews	You shold get longtubes __________________ Rock stock

December 28th, 2011, 08:13 AM	#16
Macattac Regular '03 GT 15@98mph :( Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 232 iTrader: 0 reviews	350 incl or excl the NOS shot? __________________ Magnaflow Catback \| Steeda UDP \| UPR CAI \| AccuFab 75mm TB+Plenum\| 14" rotors with 8 piston calipers \| BMR LCA&UCA \| Eibach Sportline Springs

December 28th, 2011, 09:09 AM	#18
hooliganryder Regular 00 mustang gt Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: mcewen tn Posts: 393 iTrader: 0 reviews	Get the adjustable crank gear it's alot cheaper.. And it's two separate gears so u can adjust each cam separate.. Thats what I have on my Cms stage 2 cams and have had no issues.. And I had send my cams to modular head shop to have them degreed.. Nick does and awesome job and I had my cams back in less than a week __________________ Cms stage 2 cams 04 explorer aluminum engine spec 3 clutch sct x3 k and n cai 410 gears underdrive pulleys roush short throw

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December 30th, 2011, 01:17 AM	#19
aarongt2000 Regular 2000 mustang gt 13.7 @102 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: wareham ma Posts: 235 iTrader: 0 reviews	i was at dez racing about two months ago and wih trick flow heads on a gt. he told me the stage 1 cams made more power and tq over the stage 2s. i dont remember what rps he stopped he pull at but it was a comparison woh both cams with both N/A and procharged? maybe vortech? just thought i would throw hat in there. it was a test for muscle mustangs and fast fords magazine. maybe it will be printed soon? ill be looking for that one __________________

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