Rebuilt Motor And Reinstalled. Now Drive Train Noise

nathanielwilliam · January 3rd, 2012, 07:30 PM

tick is light and speeds up with rpm's. i didn't touch the tranny, just a new clutch, TO bearing and rebuilt the engine.

the tick stops if i put just a little pressure on the clutch pedal.

any ideas?

Cabikejumper · January 3rd, 2012, 07:53 PM

Tick or squeak.

I know if it squeaks and stops with slight pressure on clutch pedal it's a tob. But you just replaced it. Others will chime in with more knowledge.

Flywheel maybe?

N20zuki · January 3rd, 2012, 08:02 PM

Did you use the self adjuster on the clutch pedal? Throw out bearing could be lightly touching the pressure plate...

nathanielwilliam · January 3rd, 2012, 08:04 PM

not a squeak, sounds like a metal on metal tick. kind of like the sound you would hear if you had a fan hitting a shroud. I can't imagine what it would be.

nathanielwilliam · January 3rd, 2012, 08:05 PM

explain N20zuki... i should try adjusting the pedal?

86er · January 3rd, 2012, 08:11 PM

well its in the clutch area, you have that figured out. Try adjusting the clutch again and what TOB did you use? Did you lightly grease the input shaft?

N20zuki · January 3rd, 2012, 09:02 PM

To use the self adjuster you just lift up on the clutch pedal towards you with the tip of your foot and you will hear the pressure be taken off clutch fork.

I did a TOB in my wifes GT 2 weeks ago, thats it, didnt mess with anything else other then that and when I put it back together it needed to be re-adjusted so I would assume yours would need to be as well. Her pedal had no play in it and the new throw out bearing you could hear. Adjusted it and boom sound went away.

nathanielwilliam · January 4th, 2012, 12:46 PM

86er... I greased the input shaft when installing. not sure what the brand was at the moment because it came in a kit.

I tried adjusting it last night and seemed to help some but still heard the sound when driving around the block. going to take it out today and see if it is better on the highway.

86er · January 4th, 2012, 07:45 PM

to be honest, wouldnt be shocked if it was the TOB. Ive seen them last just a few days, Ford is the ONLY TOB I would put on a car

doubleohvert · January 4th, 2012, 09:29 PM

did you make sure the ball that the clutch fork rides on is tight and not worn out?

nathanielwilliam · February 2nd, 2012, 04:10 PM

Well boys, I think I know what my rattle was. Today was warm so i cleaned out the garage and put the car on stands and crawled under it. original idea was that i needed to get an aftermarket clutch cable firewall adjuster. this may still be true but...

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/...2-01164735.jpg

500 Miles!!!! GRrrrr....

nathanielwilliam · February 2nd, 2012, 04:18 PM

oh, question... that bearing is obviously split but still has the balls in it. it feels very loose on the shaft. Do I need to mic the shaft and see if it is worn down? what should the diameter be? should a new throwout bearing be loose on the shaft?

i can get a Timken throwout bearing for $14 at Autozone right down the road. any recommendations on brand for replacement or should i just get the Timken.

nathanielwilliam · February 2nd, 2012, 04:21 PM

oh, doubleohvert... I did replace the stud that the fork rides on during the rebuild because it was worn.

Cathedral · February 2nd, 2012, 06:30 PM

From what I've read, the only TOB you should ever put in your car is a Ford TOB. Everyone seems to have problems when they use an aftermarket TOB.

86er · February 2nd, 2012, 07:29 PM

it wont wear down on the shaft, i wouldnt worry about that, but avoid the Timken, even though they make great parts, Id just throw the ford in there and call it quits

cliffyk · February 2nd, 2012, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by nathanielwilliam

Well boys, I think I know what my rattle was. Today was warm so i cleaned out the garage and put the car on stands and crawled under it. original idea was that i needed to get an aftermarket clutch cable firewall adjuster. this may still be true but...

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/...2-01164735.jpg

500 Miles!!!! GRrrrr....

I think that what you are seeing there is just the self-centering/aligning action of the TOB, in action. Almost all replacements including FRPP's are made that way.

The release lever is not aligned perfectly parallel to the clutch assembly, flywheel, etc--nothing about the lever's mounting system assures this, and if it did it would likely be a real PITA to adjust.

So, the "swivel" action of the self-centering bearing assembly allows the actual bearing to cant slightly in it's holder so that it does press evenly against the clutch spring fingers.

95mustangGT/SVT · February 2nd, 2012, 09:15 PM

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January 3rd, 2012, 07:30 PM	#1
nathanielwilliam Regular 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tulsa, Ok Posts: 104 iTrader: 0 reviews	Rebuilt Motor And Reinstalled. Now Drive Train Noise tick is light and speeds up with rpm's. i didn't touch the tranny, just a new clutch, TO bearing and rebuilt the engine. the tick stops if i put just a little pressure on the clutch pedal. any ideas? __________________ 2001 Mustang GT short throw shifter 4:10 gears 3 inch dual exaust (no cats!) I have an F-150 which I drove the balls out of for seven years. Now I have a mustang that I drive the balls out of also.

January 3rd, 2012, 08:02 PM	#3
N20zuki Regular 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Elizabeth City, NC Posts: 84 iTrader: 0 reviews	Did you use the self adjuster on the clutch pedal? Throw out bearing could be lightly touching the pressure plate... __________________ 2004 Mustang GT 40th Aniv 5spd, Stock for now. 2005 Joe Gibbs Silverado #0396 1986 Monte Carlo SS

January 3rd, 2012, 08:04 PM	#4
nathanielwilliam Regular 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tulsa, Ok Posts: 104 iTrader: 0 reviews	not a squeak, sounds like a metal on metal tick. kind of like the sound you would hear if you had a fan hitting a shroud. I can't imagine what it would be. __________________ 2001 Mustang GT short throw shifter 4:10 gears 3 inch dual exaust (no cats!) I have an F-150 which I drove the balls out of for seven years. Now I have a mustang that I drive the balls out of also.

January 3rd, 2012, 08:05 PM	#5
nathanielwilliam Regular 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tulsa, Ok Posts: 104 iTrader: 0 reviews	explain N20zuki... i should try adjusting the pedal? __________________ 2001 Mustang GT short throw shifter 4:10 gears 3 inch dual exaust (no cats!) I have an F-150 which I drove the balls out of for seven years. Now I have a mustang that I drive the balls out of also.

January 3rd, 2012, 08:11 PM	#6
86er I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 7,626 iTrader: 0 reviews	well its in the clutch area, you have that figured out. Try adjusting the clutch again and what TOB did you use? Did you lightly grease the input shaft? __________________ Just a truck 5.4 3v: 264hp 317ft lbs rock stock The "search" button, its not just for porn piecing together the next project faster than your first sexual experience

January 3rd, 2012, 09:02 PM	#7
N20zuki Regular 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Elizabeth City, NC Posts: 84 iTrader: 0 reviews	To use the self adjuster you just lift up on the clutch pedal towards you with the tip of your foot and you will hear the pressure be taken off clutch fork. I did a TOB in my wifes GT 2 weeks ago, thats it, didnt mess with anything else other then that and when I put it back together it needed to be re-adjusted so I would assume yours would need to be as well. Her pedal had no play in it and the new throw out bearing you could hear. Adjusted it and boom sound went away. __________________ 2004 Mustang GT 40th Aniv 5spd, Stock for now. 2005 Joe Gibbs Silverado #0396 1986 Monte Carlo SS

January 4th, 2012, 12:46 PM	#8
nathanielwilliam Regular 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tulsa, Ok Posts: 104 iTrader: 0 reviews	86er... I greased the input shaft when installing. not sure what the brand was at the moment because it came in a kit. I tried adjusting it last night and seemed to help some but still heard the sound when driving around the block. going to take it out today and see if it is better on the highway. __________________ 2001 Mustang GT short throw shifter 4:10 gears 3 inch dual exaust (no cats!) I have an F-150 which I drove the balls out of for seven years. Now I have a mustang that I drive the balls out of also.

January 4th, 2012, 07:45 PM	#9
86er I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 7,626 iTrader: 0 reviews	to be honest, wouldnt be shocked if it was the TOB. Ive seen them last just a few days, Ford is the ONLY TOB I would put on a car __________________ Just a truck 5.4 3v: 264hp 317ft lbs rock stock The "search" button, its not just for porn piecing together the next project faster than your first sexual experience

January 4th, 2012, 09:29 PM	#10
doubleohvert Regular 2000 mustang gt vert Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: rossville, ga Posts: 118 iTrader: 0 reviews	did you make sure the ball that the clutch fork rides on is tight and not worn out?

February 2nd, 2012, 04:10 PM	#11
nathanielwilliam Regular 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tulsa, Ok Posts: 104 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well boys, I think I know what my rattle was. Today was warm so i cleaned out the garage and put the car on stands and crawled under it. original idea was that i needed to get an aftermarket clutch cable firewall adjuster. this may still be true but... http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/...2-01164735.jpg 500 Miles!!!! GRrrrr.... __________________ 2001 Mustang GT short throw shifter 4:10 gears 3 inch dual exaust (no cats!) I have an F-150 which I drove the balls out of for seven years. Now I have a mustang that I drive the balls out of also.

February 2nd, 2012, 04:18 PM	#12
nathanielwilliam Regular 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tulsa, Ok Posts: 104 iTrader: 0 reviews	oh, question... that bearing is obviously split but still has the balls in it. it feels very loose on the shaft. Do I need to mic the shaft and see if it is worn down? what should the diameter be? should a new throwout bearing be loose on the shaft? i can get a Timken throwout bearing for $14 at Autozone right down the road. any recommendations on brand for replacement or should i just get the Timken. __________________ 2001 Mustang GT short throw shifter 4:10 gears 3 inch dual exaust (no cats!) I have an F-150 which I drove the balls out of for seven years. Now I have a mustang that I drive the balls out of also.

February 2nd, 2012, 04:21 PM	#13
nathanielwilliam Regular 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tulsa, Ok Posts: 104 iTrader: 0 reviews	oh, doubleohvert... I did replace the stud that the fork rides on during the rebuild because it was worn. __________________ 2001 Mustang GT short throw shifter 4:10 gears 3 inch dual exaust (no cats!) I have an F-150 which I drove the balls out of for seven years. Now I have a mustang that I drive the balls out of also.

February 2nd, 2012, 06:30 PM	#14
Cathedral Jackpot, fishypoopypants! 2003 GT 1@3,000,000.... or is it 3,000,000@1? Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Toledo Posts: 1,905 iTrader: 0 reviews	From what I've read, the only TOB you should ever put in your car is a Ford TOB. Everyone seems to have problems when they use an aftermarket TOB.

February 2nd, 2012, 07:29 PM	#15
86er I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 7,626 iTrader: 0 reviews	it wont wear down on the shaft, i wouldnt worry about that, but avoid the Timken, even though they make great parts, Id just throw the ford in there and call it quits __________________ Just a truck 5.4 3v: 264hp 317ft lbs rock stock The "search" button, its not just for porn piecing together the next project faster than your first sexual experience

February 2nd, 2012, 09:15 PM	#17
95mustangGT/SVT Enthusiast 2001 Gt Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: PA Posts: 915 iTrader: 0 reviews	^+1

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