[p4ndiamond]

i want to run about 6-8 psi non intercooled. What is a good size pulley ?

[Shaun03GT]

What kind of intercooler? If none 3.6 pulley, if intercooled most likley a 3.33

[p4ndiamond]

ya thats what i was saying lol No intercooler. but if i do what is a good kit that allows me to keep my A/c and stuff.

[Shaun03GT]

Der I didnt even see the non intercooled part sorry. Yeah 3.6 pulley. Cxracing seems to be good intercoolers. If so 3.33 pulley

[SSG Pate]

3.6

[p4ndiamond]

sounds good. is 10lb too much for stock with a good custom tune ? just debating since this has the 3.33 i can either drop the boost with excess tube and an intercooler or change the pulley haha.

[skidad62]

10 is too much non intercooled... would be a timebomb. Go 3.60"

[ytngt]

I made 10-13 psi with the Vortech V2-SQ aftercooled and 3.33" pulley.

Edit: teh way to make it safe non intercooled is via the tune. If the tune is setup properly it pulls timing as air temps increase, keeping you away from the detonation threshold.

[Shaun03GT]

^^ exactly. You can run 10psi non intercooled, just have to make sure the tuner is good. As the intake temps go up, timing should be pulled to prevent detonation. But that's not the only thing that blows up these motors. In the summer with 10psi non intercooled the cylinder temps will be hot and you could mess something up. I say intercool it. Buy a cxracing 31x12x4 intercooler with the piping which is less then $350. Then run the 3.33 and enjoy 10psi without worrying about heat

[blownstang]

Originally Posted by p4ndiamond sounds good. is 10lb too much for stock with a good custom tune ? just debating since this has the 3.33 i can either drop the boost with excess tube and an intercooler or change the pulley haha.

You'll be fine with 10psi. Use the 3.33 without a powerpipe. Will be fine in the summer also.

[p4ndiamond]

Sweet thanks for all the info. What exactly is this power pipe you speak of ?

[Shaun03GT]

I wouldn't hell be fine in the summer, maybe yeah. Timing can be pulled when iats get to a certain amount. but more boost is more heat, and with no cooling mods, I wouldn't really push it. Every car is different, and not all timers are great

[blownstang]

He'll be fine with a good tune. Many guys run 10-11psi non-intercooled. I was shooting for 10psi with my 3.6 pulley and powerpipe, but only got 9psi out of the V1. As long as the tune does its job of pulling lots of timing when those iats start to rise there will not be any issues. It seems like alot of intercooled guys blow up motors because they are pushing the limits, but you don't hear of too many non-intercooled Vortech cars doing the same. I still say that it is all in the tune and no more than 10psi intercooled or non-intercooled and you'll be fine.

[Shaun03GT]

It's not just high iats that blow motors. Those cylinder temps will get pretty hot. You can pull timing, but you cant,cool the intake charge with no cooling methods. Personally I would just intercool it. Good security for $300.

[p4ndiamond]

How big of one should i get that will fit.. i've seen these relatively cheap .

[blownstang]

Originally Posted by Shaun03GT It's not just high iats that blow motors. Those cylinder temps will get pretty hot. You can pull timing, but you cant,cool the intake charge with no cooling methods. Personally I would just intercool it. Good security for $300.

Ya, but intercooling usually turns out to be way more than just the $300 for the ebay diy intercooler kit. Better mafs, blow off/bypass valves, boost-a-pumps usually come into the picture at the same time. A 10psi Vortech really does not need intercooling. The temps between 8psi and 10psi are not that much different especially when using a powerpipe to make that extra 1-2psi. If someone is looking at doing a lot of racing and high mph pulls on the highway then an intercooler is definitely a very good idea. For someone just screwing around on the street with the occasional track visit it is not a necessity. I've been fairly happy with my non-intercooled kit for almost 2 years now. In the summer the car does get sluggish in the heat. The reason I'm adding the intercooler is to keep the power when it gets hot, and the added safety of cooler iats just comes along with that.

[blownstang]

Originally Posted by p4ndiamond Sweet thanks for all the info. What exactly is this power pipe you speak of ?

This is a powerpipe. 1996-04 Mustang 4.6L Anderson Ford Power Pipe for Vortech Supercharger at LRS - Same Day Shipping!

Anderson, Modular Powerhouse, and Kurgan Motorsports offer similar versions. Modular Powerhouse will be the cheapest.

[blownstang]

Originally Posted by p4ndiamond How big of one should i get that will fit.. i've seen these relatively cheap .

A cxracing 31x12x3 or a Procharger 3 core will fit behind the bumper support without any cutting. I bought the cxracing one with piping last year, but then got a great deal on a Procharger 3 core so I will be using the Procharger intercooler with the cxracing aluminum piping. With this particular cxracing intercooler you'll loose 2-3 psi so if you decide to go this route you may want to get a powerpipe or 3.12 pulley to make up the boost.

[p4ndiamond]

Well if i can add an intercooler thats affordable that will drop me from 10lb or so to around 7-8lb thats what im looking for. just so i can keep this pulley AND get intercooling while being double safe with a cooler IAT and a lower more safe boost.

Im building a forged DOHC block and all right now. but since i caught this deal i figure i'd add some pep to this ole motors step. Im mostly autox and a ricer on the streets at least twice a week haha. I go to the track every blue moon and awhile ..majority is street stuff....

[stal94gt]

i would run 10# non ic this time of year. since it is nice and cool out your pretty safe. during the summer your going to have to pick and choose your battles. most tuners will move the iat sensor up by the tb to have it yank timing once intake temps get over 120, but you can be safe and have timing pulled at 100 degrees. draw back is your going to be a pig with no timing in the car. adding an ic is the best rout to add power you desire. OR a meth kit. it hits best of both worlds and gets even better once intercooled.