5.4 Windsor Swap

brent_cosenza · June 6th, 2007, 03:17 AM

I'm gonna swap the blown motor in my car for a 2000 5.4 windsor and was wanting to know what all was involved in the swap and what will bolt on the 5.4 from the 4.6 and if my intake and TR-3650 will bolt up?

Drgnracin72 · June 6th, 2007, 04:54 AM

are yoiu staying with the sohc or dohc. if your sticking with the 5.4 sohc, it will be a simple swap in. if your switching to dohc, youll need the wiring harness and ecu to make er run right

DrHolliday · June 6th, 2007, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by drgnracin72

are yoiu staying with the sohc or dohc. if your sticking with the 5.4 sohc, it will be a simple swap in. if your switching to dohc, youll need the wiring harness and ecu to make er run right

I've been interested in this too.

Is the 5.4 sohc the same block as the 4.6? The biggest thing is will the intakes interchange? B/c If I go this route I want to put my KB on it too.

brent_cosenza · June 6th, 2007, 02:21 PM

its the 2V anyone know the stock RW numbers on the 4.6 and 5.4 2V's

Drgnracin72 · June 6th, 2007, 07:45 PM

the 5.4 will make a lot more tq and power. no they are not the same block dimensionally. physically they look the same but the 5.4 is a little bigger i do believe

DrHolliday · June 6th, 2007, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by drgnracin72

the 5.4 will make a lot more tq and power. no they are not the same block dimensionally. physically they look the same but the 5.4 is a little bigger i do believe

I did a little bit of quick reading on it. It has the same bore as the 4.6 but the stoke is longer. 4.6 stoke is 3.54 inches and the 5.4 stoke is 4.17 inches. I assume that the longer stoke means the block is taller making the heads further apart so the intake on a 4.6 would not fit on the 5.4

Kinda sucks, If it would work I'd forge a 5.4 block and slap my KB on it.

sonicblue · June 6th, 2007, 08:59 PM

you can still use the 4.6 intake manifold. you just need adapter plates. reichard racing makes them. the only thing is they are slow as shit making stuff unless you get lucky and they already have some made. heres a link to them http://www.reichardracing.com/46to54adapter.php

DrHolliday · June 6th, 2007, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by sonicblue

you can still use the 4.6 intake manifold. you just need adapter plates. reichard racing makes them. the only thing is they are slow as shit making stuff unless you get lucky and they already have some made. heres a link to them http://www.reichardracing.com/46to54adapter.php

Very interesting... I would have to do some custom alternator work and see about belts to get it all to work, But could in theory build a 5.4 SOHC for my car with my current blower and run it at 14 psi.

I might have to look into this a bit more, could be fun!

DrHolliday · June 6th, 2007, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by DrHolliday

Originally Posted by sonicblue

you can still use the 4.6 intake manifold. you just need adapter plates. reichard racing makes them. the only thing is they are slow as shit making stuff unless you get lucky and they already have some made. heres a link to them http://www.reichardracing.com/46to54adapter.php

Very interesting... I would have to do some custom alternator work and see about belts to get it all to work, But could in theory build a 5.4 SOHC for my car with my current blower and run it at 14 psi.

I might have to look into this a bit more, could be fun!

Crap, thats only for 4v's

Wildsteeda · June 6th, 2007, 09:44 PM

it can be done but it's not easy, the 4.6 and 5.4 are not the same block the oil pan on the 5.4 is deeper and will not clear the k-member, I know what you are thinking "but they did it to the 5.4 2000 Cobra R" that block was specifically built for the cobra. Now you can put the truck motor in a mustang you will need to buy a special K-member for the car "look in a mustang magazine I see them all the time" I don't think the mustangs computer will work with it though so you'll have to take the trucks and flash it for what you want, my brother in-law did the swap with a 96 gutted v6 to a 5.4 and it was a pain in the ass, but it is doable.

brent_cosenza · June 11th, 2007, 03:33 AM

WRONG!!!!!!!everything bolts up....mine is already in

MustangMatt96GT · June 11th, 2007, 11:27 AM

You got the 2V already inthere? Congrads

Wildsteeda · June 11th, 2007, 02:19 PM

all power to ya, we had to buy a new k-member.

brent_cosenza · July 1st, 2007, 02:46 PM

yeah i got to rig the return style fuel rails though...i did crank it up and it sounded mean i cant wait to drive it...BTW i'll post pics when i clean it up a bit as i had to make splices and such the only problem i am having aside from the fuel rails is the exhaust gotta bend the bassani X-pipe and grind the flange down on the passenger side

brent_cosenza · July 1st, 2007, 02:48 PM

wild steeda what yr did you do the swap on mine was a 02 and the steering arm was in the way but i just shook it for a min and it went in there...nvm just reread your post thats why because the k members are different for the 96-98 and the 99-04's and the 99-04's computer will work fine just needs to be reflashed

brent_cosenza · July 1st, 2007, 02:50 PM

had to use stock 5.4 intake manifold and 4.6 exhaust manifold. if you want to use the 4.6 UDP's swap out the water pumps

brent_cosenza · July 1st, 2007, 03:09 PM

as the snout on the 5.4 is longer than the 4.6's thats the only swapping i had to do...the exhaust manifolds and the water pump and splice(extend) the MAF Sensor, Throttle Position Sensor, and the Coolant temp. sensor and get a longer throttle cable

June 6th, 2007, 03:17 AM	#1
brent_cosenza Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: GA Posts: 30 iTrader: 0 reviews	5.4 Windsor Swap I'm gonna swap the blown motor in my car for a 2000 5.4 windsor and was wanting to know what all was involved in the swap and what will bolt on the 5.4 from the 4.6 and if my intake and TR-3650 will bolt up? __________________ 2002 Redfire Metallic Ford Mustang GT - 5.4 2V, Steeda CAI, Bassani X-pipe, 24lb. inj., 4.10 gears, 75mm TB, UDP's, Ported Plenum, AWAITING DYNO NUMBERS AND TUNE!!!!!

June 6th, 2007, 04:54 AM	#2
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,635 iTrader: 2 reviews	are yoiu staying with the sohc or dohc. if your sticking with the 5.4 sohc, it will be a simple swap in. if your switching to dohc, youll need the wiring harness and ecu to make er run right __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

June 6th, 2007, 02:21 PM	#4
brent_cosenza Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: GA Posts: 30 iTrader: 0 reviews	its the 2V anyone know the stock RW numbers on the 4.6 and 5.4 2V's __________________ 2002 Redfire Metallic Ford Mustang GT - 5.4 2V, Steeda CAI, Bassani X-pipe, 24lb. inj., 4.10 gears, 75mm TB, UDP's, Ported Plenum, AWAITING DYNO NUMBERS AND TUNE!!!!!

June 6th, 2007, 07:45 PM	#5
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,635 iTrader: 2 reviews	the 5.4 will make a lot more tq and power. no they are not the same block dimensionally. physically they look the same but the 5.4 is a little bigger i do believe __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

June 6th, 2007, 08:59 PM	#7
sonicblue Hardcore Enthusiast 1990 GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: dalzell, south carolina Posts: 1,436 iTrader: 0 reviews	you can still use the 4.6 intake manifold. you just need adapter plates. reichard racing makes them. the only thing is they are slow as shit making stuff unless you get lucky and they already have some made. heres a link to them http://www.reichardracing.com/46to54adapter.php __________________ 1990 5.0 getting all fixed up for next season 2004 mustang gt 520rwhp, 491 trq sold

June 6th, 2007, 09:44 PM	#10
Wildsteeda Regular 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fort Riley Posts: 125 iTrader: 0 reviews	it can be done but it's not easy, the 4.6 and 5.4 are not the same block the oil pan on the 5.4 is deeper and will not clear the k-member, I know what you are thinking "but they did it to the 5.4 2000 Cobra R" that block was specifically built for the cobra. Now you can put the truck motor in a mustang you will need to buy a special K-member for the car "look in a mustang magazine I see them all the time" I don't think the mustangs computer will work with it though so you'll have to take the trucks and flash it for what you want, my brother in-law did the swap with a 96 gutted v6 to a 5.4 and it was a pain in the ass, but it is doable. __________________ Mamma I wanna go FAST!

June 11th, 2007, 03:33 AM	#11
brent_cosenza Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: GA Posts: 30 iTrader: 0 reviews	WRONG!!!!!!!everything bolts up....mine is already in __________________ 2002 Redfire Metallic Ford Mustang GT - 5.4 2V, Steeda CAI, Bassani X-pipe, 24lb. inj., 4.10 gears, 75mm TB, UDP's, Ported Plenum, AWAITING DYNO NUMBERS AND TUNE!!!!!

June 11th, 2007, 11:27 AM	#12
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,690 iTrader: 3 reviews	You got the 2V already inthere? Congrads __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

June 11th, 2007, 02:19 PM	#13
Wildsteeda Regular 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fort Riley Posts: 125 iTrader: 0 reviews	all power to ya, we had to buy a new k-member. __________________ Mamma I wanna go FAST!

July 1st, 2007, 02:46 PM	#14
brent_cosenza Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: GA Posts: 30 iTrader: 0 reviews	yeah i got to rig the return style fuel rails though...i did crank it up and it sounded mean i cant wait to drive it...BTW i'll post pics when i clean it up a bit as i had to make splices and such the only problem i am having aside from the fuel rails is the exhaust gotta bend the bassani X-pipe and grind the flange down on the passenger side __________________ 2002 Redfire Metallic Ford Mustang GT - 5.4 2V, Steeda CAI, Bassani X-pipe, 24lb. inj., 4.10 gears, 75mm TB, UDP's, Ported Plenum, AWAITING DYNO NUMBERS AND TUNE!!!!!

July 1st, 2007, 02:48 PM	#15
brent_cosenza Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: GA Posts: 30 iTrader: 0 reviews	wild steeda what yr did you do the swap on mine was a 02 and the steering arm was in the way but i just shook it for a min and it went in there...nvm just reread your post thats why because the k members are different for the 96-98 and the 99-04's and the 99-04's computer will work fine just needs to be reflashed __________________ 2002 Redfire Metallic Ford Mustang GT - 5.4 2V, Steeda CAI, Bassani X-pipe, 24lb. inj., 4.10 gears, 75mm TB, UDP's, Ported Plenum, AWAITING DYNO NUMBERS AND TUNE!!!!!

July 1st, 2007, 02:50 PM	#16
brent_cosenza Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: GA Posts: 30 iTrader: 0 reviews	had to use stock 5.4 intake manifold and 4.6 exhaust manifold. if you want to use the 4.6 UDP's swap out the water pumps __________________ 2002 Redfire Metallic Ford Mustang GT - 5.4 2V, Steeda CAI, Bassani X-pipe, 24lb. inj., 4.10 gears, 75mm TB, UDP's, Ported Plenum, AWAITING DYNO NUMBERS AND TUNE!!!!!

July 1st, 2007, 03:09 PM	#17
brent_cosenza Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: GA Posts: 30 iTrader: 0 reviews	as the snout on the 5.4 is longer than the 4.6's thats the only swapping i had to do...the exhaust manifolds and the water pump and splice(extend) the MAF Sensor, Throttle Position Sensor, and the Coolant temp. sensor and get a longer throttle cable __________________ 2002 Redfire Metallic Ford Mustang GT - 5.4 2V, Steeda CAI, Bassani X-pipe, 24lb. inj., 4.10 gears, 75mm TB, UDP's, Ported Plenum, AWAITING DYNO NUMBERS AND TUNE!!!!!

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