Vortech questions

hippojumqer · January 17th, 2012, 05:30 AM

I am thinking about picking up a vortech V1-SQ complete kit soon here but i just don't know if its a good idea..

My car is completely stock except gears and exhaust and i have an sct tuner..

I guess my question is will this kit blow my motor or tranny or rear end?
I would definitely go with a conservative tune so what would my numbers look like if i dyno'd considering my short list of mods? What are some things i need to be cautious of running this kit on a stock motor?

It comes with a 2.8 pulley.. I heard that i would need a bigger pulley to run on a stock motor. True or false?

Thanks.

stal94gt · January 17th, 2012, 05:39 AM

i take it your buying a used kit. for a v2 s trim i would go with a 3.33 if non-intercooled and want to put out roughly 10-11#. if you want to keep it safe a 3.6 pulley will make around 7-8# non ic. as for hp you will make depends on how agressive your tune is. if you run the 3.6 pulley with lets say 14 degrees timing non intercooled you could see between 350-360. if you run the 3.33 pulley with 14 degrees timing you could see 360-370 hp. safe tune for me would be 11.4-11.6 af with 14 degrees timing and have the computer pull timing at intake temps over 100 degrees.

SSG Pate · January 17th, 2012, 06:56 AM

2.8 is going to be way to much to run Like stall said. You will be fine running the above mentioned combination without the fear of blowing your motor. these motors are tougher then they get credit for. It is rare for one to blow unless it has been severly abused beyond its capabilities or poorly maintained.

Eagle2000GT · January 17th, 2012, 08:51 AM

In general 8 psi non-intercooled or 10 psi intercooled is reasonably safe. The transmission and rear end will be fine unless you are doing hard launches with drag radials at the track and power shifting.

apalladino · January 17th, 2012, 10:43 PM

I dont want to hi-jack your thread, but can one of you point me in the right direction? I'm trying to find info on supercharging a 32v, roots style.

thanks

Eagle2000GT · January 17th, 2012, 11:40 PM

Wrong forum but contact Stal, he's running 03/04 Cobra

Nitmare67 · January 18th, 2012, 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by stal94gt

i take it your buying a used kit. for a v2 s trim i would go with a 3.33 if non-intercooled and want to put out roughly 10-11#. if you want to keep it safe a 3.6 pulley will make around 7-8# non ic. as for hp you will make depends on how agressive your tune is. if you run the 3.6 pulley with lets say 14 degrees timing non intercooled you could see between 350-360. if you run the 3.33 pulley with 14 degrees timing you could see 360-370 hp. safe tune for me would be 13.4-13.6 af with 14 degrees timing and have the computer pull timing at intake temps over 100 degrees.

13.4AFR????

A 3.6 pulley and a power pipe would work great and get you to 10lbs probably. My V3Si makes 12lbs with a 3.6 pulley and a power pipe at 6200 RPM...

stal94gt · January 18th, 2012, 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by Nitmare67

13.4AFR????

he asked for safe, that is playing it real safe. hell my cobra is tuned at 11.5 af. with non ic cars especialy running alittle on the fat side is safe cause fuel acts as a cooling agent.

Shaun03GT · January 18th, 2012, 02:29 AM

13.4? My car is dialed in at 11.75:1 from 3000-6500rpm. Typo?

stal94gt · January 18th, 2012, 02:35 AM

Originally Posted by Shaun03GT

13.4? My car is dialed in at 11.75:1 from 3000-6500rpm. Typo?

i was just saying on the super safe side. the guy asked a question about non ic setups and keeping it fat is safe for them. imagin intake temps over 200 degrees on a summer day. more fuel = cooler intake temps. sure you give up a few hp but it will prevent detonation.

Shaun03GT · January 18th, 2012, 02:39 AM

I understand that but isnt 13.5 pretty lean? Or else I'm just confused?

stal94gt · January 18th, 2012, 02:40 AM

oh shit my bad, i ment 11.4, now i see what the fuss is about

edited my posts, i havent been sleeping the past month so my head is cloudy

Shaun03GT · January 18th, 2012, 02:53 AM

Ahh okay lol! I didnt know if I was wrong thats all.

Get some sleep man!

stal94gt · January 18th, 2012, 03:04 AM

i would sleep but im on a new work sched. im stuck working now and i dont get off till 7 am

Shaun03GT · January 18th, 2012, 03:12 AM

That sucks. Getting used to a new schedule blows. I want to work overnights. I'm always up late. It's 330 and im supposed to be to work at 6 lol. Can't sleep early.

You'll get used to it sooner or later. Good luck man

January 17th, 2012, 05:30 AM	#1
hippojumqer Regular 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Appleton, WI Posts: 81 iTrader: 0 reviews	Vortech questions I am thinking about picking up a vortech V1-SQ complete kit soon here but i just don't know if its a good idea.. My car is completely stock except gears and exhaust and i have an sct tuner.. I guess my question is will this kit blow my motor or tranny or rear end? I would definitely go with a conservative tune so what would my numbers look like if i dyno'd considering my short list of mods? What are some things i need to be cautious of running this kit on a stock motor? It comes with a 2.8 pulley.. I heard that i would need a bigger pulley to run on a stock motor. True or false? Thanks.

January 17th, 2012, 05:39 AM	#2
stal94gt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 mustang v6 ;) slow Join Date: May 2010 Location: eglin afb florida Posts: 10,197 iTrader: 2 reviews	i take it your buying a used kit. for a v2 s trim i would go with a 3.33 if non-intercooled and want to put out roughly 10-11#. if you want to keep it safe a 3.6 pulley will make around 7-8# non ic. as for hp you will make depends on how agressive your tune is. if you run the 3.6 pulley with lets say 14 degrees timing non intercooled you could see between 350-360. if you run the 3.33 pulley with 14 degrees timing you could see 360-370 hp. safe tune for me would be 11.4-11.6 af with 14 degrees timing and have the computer pull timing at intake temps over 100 degrees. __________________ bone stock from the factory! Last edited by stal94gt; January 18th, 2012 at 02:40 AM.

January 17th, 2012, 06:56 AM	#3
SSG Pate Premium Member 00 Mustang GT Vert/88 5.0 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,766 iTrader: 3 reviews	2.8 is going to be way to much to run Like stall said. You will be fine running the above mentioned combination without the fear of blowing your motor. these motors are tougher then they get credit for. It is rare for one to blow unless it has been severly abused beyond its capabilities or poorly maintained. __________________ Proud Iraq and Afghanistan War veteran Powered By MMR 4.75L Stroker, Tuned at Kurgan Motorsports

January 17th, 2012, 08:51 AM	#4
Eagle2000GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2000 Mustang GT 12.73@111.36 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Shelbyville, IN Posts: 5,311 iTrader: 1 reviews	In general 8 psi non-intercooled or 10 psi intercooled is reasonably safe. The transmission and rear end will be fine unless you are doing hard launches with drag radials at the track and power shifting. __________________ ProCharger P-1SC, 9 psi, STD 396/383; Uncorrected 388/375; SAE 383/370 Mods list in Garage.

January 17th, 2012, 11:40 PM	#6
Eagle2000GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2000 Mustang GT 12.73@111.36 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Shelbyville, IN Posts: 5,311 iTrader: 1 reviews	Wrong forum but contact Stal, he's running 03/04 Cobra __________________ ProCharger P-1SC, 9 psi, STD 396/383; Uncorrected 388/375; SAE 383/370 Mods list in Garage.

January 17th, 2012, 10:43 PM	#5
apalladino Regular Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 120 iTrader: 2 reviews	I dont want to hi-jack your thread, but can one of you point me in the right direction? I'm trying to find info on supercharging a 32v, roots style. thanks

January 18th, 2012, 02:29 AM	#9
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,447 iTrader: 12 reviews	13.4? My car is dialed in at 11.75:1 from 3000-6500rpm. Typo? __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

January 18th, 2012, 02:39 AM	#11
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,447 iTrader: 12 reviews	I understand that but isnt 13.5 pretty lean? Or else I'm just confused? __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

January 18th, 2012, 02:40 AM	#12
stal94gt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 mustang v6 ;) slow Join Date: May 2010 Location: eglin afb florida Posts: 10,197 iTrader: 2 reviews	oh shit my bad, i ment 11.4, now i see what the fuss is about edited my posts, i havent been sleeping the past month so my head is cloudy __________________ bone stock from the factory!

January 18th, 2012, 02:53 AM	#13
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,447 iTrader: 12 reviews	Ahh okay lol! I didnt know if I was wrong thats all. Get some sleep man! __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

January 18th, 2012, 03:04 AM	#14
stal94gt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 mustang v6 ;) slow Join Date: May 2010 Location: eglin afb florida Posts: 10,197 iTrader: 2 reviews	i would sleep but im on a new work sched. im stuck working now and i dont get off till 7 am __________________ bone stock from the factory!

January 18th, 2012, 03:12 AM	#15
Shaun03GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2003 Mustang GT 1/8 - 7.92 @ 91.13mph 1/4 - 12.21 @ 115.84mph Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Weymouth, MA Posts: 13,447 iTrader: 12 reviews	That sucks. Getting used to a new schedule blows. I want to work overnights. I'm always up late. It's 330 and im supposed to be to work at 6 lol. Can't sleep early. You'll get used to it sooner or later. Good luck man __________________ Vortech V1 Intercooled @ 11psi 394rwhp/392rwtq @ 9.5psi 415rwhp/400rwtq @ 11psi on Methanol Tuned By: Pete @ Performance Dyno Affordable Supercharger Build Guide Supercharger Info for Noobs

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