Header locking bolts

Nitmare67 · January 28th, 2012, 05:25 AM

I've never ran locking bolts on any of my motors but I'm going to run them on my new 4.6. I do not want to deal with the bitch of replacing gaskets or them EVER coming loose once installed. I honestly havent had bad luck though too much with headers ever coming loose once tdorque right but these are such a bitch I dont want to risk it for the small investment.

My PROBLEM

I would prefer to run the split locking bolts. I know they would be ALOT easier to remove if I had to compared the Stage 8 or Ford racing C clip style locking bolts. The problem is it seems like they're not made anymore or something. I cant find them in stock anywhere online. I mean I guess for my purpose of never removing them the C-clip style would be fine but just in case I would like to stay away from them. I'm going to bolt and torque my JBA shortys on the stand and drop the motor in with them already installed.

I'm so anal about the whole deal I bought the headers used and found a crack so I had my welded go over both headers and tig up all of the backside of the tubes (where I found JBA long tubes crack often, he also grinded and cleaned up alot of JBA's shitty welds. To be totally honesty its a ton of work for shitty shorty headers and I think the JBA shortys are 1 of the worst on the market (ford racing shortys are the worst, bbk shorty seem to work the best of all shorties) for performance but they are all thats legal in CA and I DO NOT want to mess with removing long tubes for smog. But I will say this if these JBAs do shit the bed I will be smacking long tubes on it and buying a new prochamber.

IM SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING BUYING A SET OF MID LENGTH HEADERS AND WELDING THE CARB PLATE ONTO THEM LOL. FUCKING SMOG GUYS WOULD NEVER KNOW AROUND HERE. BUNCH OF CAMEL JOCKIES THAT DONT CARE ENOUGH TO EVEN LOOK IT UP. LAST TIME THEY SMOGED ME WITH AN ILLEGAL POWER PIPE, BOV AND HPX BLOW THROUGH MAF LOL!! HE DIDNT CARE AS LONG AS THE HEAD UNIT HAD THE CARB PLATE BUT HE WAS ANAL LOOKING UNDER THE CAR AT THE EXHAUST

Nitmare67 · January 28th, 2012, 01:40 PM

Bump

NickPohlAandP · January 28th, 2012, 01:47 PM

Header bolts backing out is a myth. The reason you can tighten the bolts a bit more after you run the engine is heat cycles. This is the different expansion properties of aluminum versus stainless. Once you put the bolts in, tighten them as much as you can, then forget about them.

Nitmare67 · January 28th, 2012, 01:56 PM

LOL thats what I always did before. But I've got my mind made up this time I'm going to buy some fancy bolts lol

NickPohlAandP · January 28th, 2012, 04:16 PM

I've got stage 8's on mine, but that's only because the previous owner put them on when he did the headers. When I reinstalled them I got on all locks but one, and I figured that was good enough for me

bulloch27 · January 28th, 2012, 08:35 PM

I'm running Stage 8s on mine only because no one had any regular style bolts in stock at the time. The split lock bolts you're referring to are made by Percy's if that helps you at all. Give them a call directly.

wishIhada5.0 · January 29th, 2012, 05:52 AM

I run the stage 8's...really nice product IMHO...

Nitmare67 · January 29th, 2012, 12:33 PM

I ordered the stage 8 bolts yesterday. Thanks guys.

January 28th, 2012, 05:25 AM	#1
Nitmare67 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,391 iTrader: 0 reviews	Header locking bolts I've never ran locking bolts on any of my motors but I'm going to run them on my new 4.6. I do not want to deal with the bitch of replacing gaskets or them EVER coming loose once installed. I honestly havent had bad luck though too much with headers ever coming loose once tdorque right but these are such a bitch I dont want to risk it for the small investment. My PROBLEM I would prefer to run the split locking bolts. I know they would be ALOT easier to remove if I had to compared the Stage 8 or Ford racing C clip style locking bolts. The problem is it seems like they're not made anymore or something. I cant find them in stock anywhere online. I mean I guess for my purpose of never removing them the C-clip style would be fine but just in case I would like to stay away from them. I'm going to bolt and torque my JBA shortys on the stand and drop the motor in with them already installed. I'm so anal about the whole deal I bought the headers used and found a crack so I had my welded go over both headers and tig up all of the backside of the tubes (where I found JBA long tubes crack often, he also grinded and cleaned up alot of JBA's shitty welds. To be totally honesty its a ton of work for shitty shorty headers and I think the JBA shortys are 1 of the worst on the market (ford racing shortys are the worst, bbk shorty seem to work the best of all shorties) for performance but they are all thats legal in CA and I DO NOT want to mess with removing long tubes for smog. But I will say this if these JBAs do shit the bed I will be smacking long tubes on it and buying a new prochamber. IM SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING BUYING A SET OF MID LENGTH HEADERS AND WELDING THE CARB PLATE ONTO THEM LOL. FUCKING SMOG GUYS WOULD NEVER KNOW AROUND HERE. BUNCH OF CAMEL JOCKIES THAT DONT CARE ENOUGH TO EVEN LOOK IT UP. LAST TIME THEY SMOGED ME WITH AN ILLEGAL POWER PIPE, BOV AND HPX BLOW THROUGH MAF LOL!! HE DIDNT CARE AS LONG AS THE HEAD UNIT HAD THE CARB PLATE BUT HE WAS ANAL LOOKING UNDER THE CAR AT THE EXHAUST __________________ 99 Mustang GT 446rwhp, Vortech Aftercooled, Killer Chiller @12lbs, HPX, 3.73s, MGW, Battery Relocation, Intercooler Tank Relocated, CF DF clutch, Steeda Quick Release Quadrant, 75mm TB, Ported C&L Plenum, Stock PI Cams Advance 4 degrees, Pro Chamber

January 28th, 2012, 01:40 PM	#2
Nitmare67 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,391 iTrader: 0 reviews	Bump __________________ 99 Mustang GT 446rwhp, Vortech Aftercooled, Killer Chiller @12lbs, HPX, 3.73s, MGW, Battery Relocation, Intercooler Tank Relocated, CF DF clutch, Steeda Quick Release Quadrant, 75mm TB, Ported C&L Plenum, Stock PI Cams Advance 4 degrees, Pro Chamber

January 28th, 2012, 01:47 PM	#3
NickPohlAandP I like boobs!!! 2000 GT convertible dunno Join Date: May 2011 Location: Brooklet, GA Posts: 2,827 iTrader: 2 reviews	Header bolts backing out is a myth. The reason you can tighten the bolts a bit more after you run the engine is heat cycles. This is the different expansion properties of aluminum versus stainless. Once you put the bolts in, tighten them as much as you can, then forget about them. __________________ Last time you voted to prove you aren't racist. This time prove you're not an IDIOT!!! My Garage--->http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-member-46919/

January 28th, 2012, 01:56 PM	#4
Nitmare67 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,391 iTrader: 0 reviews	LOL thats what I always did before. But I've got my mind made up this time I'm going to buy some fancy bolts lol __________________ 99 Mustang GT 446rwhp, Vortech Aftercooled, Killer Chiller @12lbs, HPX, 3.73s, MGW, Battery Relocation, Intercooler Tank Relocated, CF DF clutch, Steeda Quick Release Quadrant, 75mm TB, Ported C&L Plenum, Stock PI Cams Advance 4 degrees, Pro Chamber

January 28th, 2012, 04:16 PM	#5
NickPohlAandP I like boobs!!! 2000 GT convertible dunno Join Date: May 2011 Location: Brooklet, GA Posts: 2,827 iTrader: 2 reviews	I've got stage 8's on mine, but that's only because the previous owner put them on when he did the headers. When I reinstalled them I got on all locks but one, and I figured that was good enough for me __________________ Last time you voted to prove you aren't racist. This time prove you're not an IDIOT!!! My Garage--->http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-member-46919/

January 28th, 2012, 08:35 PM	#6
bulloch27 Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 Mustang Fauxbra N/T @ Fast Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Statesboro, Ga Posts: 2,879 iTrader: 0 reviews	I'm running Stage 8s on mine only because no one had any regular style bolts in stock at the time. The split lock bolts you're referring to are made by Percy's if that helps you at all. Give them a call directly. __________________ All the typical bolt-ons, well a lot are welded on. Bone stock I tell ya. First time at the track, what do I do now? 03 Silver Fauxbra; 06 Legend Lime GT, 89 Outwlaw 10.5W Coupe, 93 Teal Cobra, 93 Red GT, 93 Teal LX - All Sold

January 29th, 2012, 05:52 AM	#7
wishIhada5.0 April 2012 ROTM 2002 GT, True Blue, Stick Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: About an hour east of Pittsburgh Posts: 4,083 iTrader: 0 reviews	I run the stage 8's...really nice product IMHO... __________________ True blue crew founder/member #1 378/442 rwhp/rwtqon a Mustang dyno cams are in..#'s coming this summer

January 29th, 2012, 12:33 PM	#8
Nitmare67 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,391 iTrader: 0 reviews	I ordered the stage 8 bolts yesterday. Thanks guys. __________________ 99 Mustang GT 446rwhp, Vortech Aftercooled, Killer Chiller @12lbs, HPX, 3.73s, MGW, Battery Relocation, Intercooler Tank Relocated, CF DF clutch, Steeda Quick Release Quadrant, 75mm TB, Ported C&L Plenum, Stock PI Cams Advance 4 degrees, Pro Chamber

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