is a stall really worth it

momogt · January 29th, 2012, 06:48 PM

like the title says is a stall worth it if your not going to the track what benefits will you have with it on the street im saving now for a turbo or supercharger but i want to know should i get a stall or just keep saving up for boost

twinmill · January 29th, 2012, 06:57 PM

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BaznastyDave · January 29th, 2012, 06:59 PM

Yes a stall will help an auto greatly

laoutlaw01 · January 29th, 2012, 07:05 PM

Will Help a ton. I've got a 3800 with 4.10's and if you have giod tires it helps a lot on the street. Slicks on the track and it takes off like a rocket.

bottled2v · January 29th, 2012, 07:08 PM

on the street it's not quite as important. it makes it way more fun from a stop light or whatever, but pretty much all the gain is off the line so if you dont race or "have fun" off the line on the street you wont get much benefit from it. however if you took it to the track it's totally worth it, I dropped .5 off my times with just a stall.

Orange2V · January 29th, 2012, 08:34 PM

Stall is the single most effective mod on a auto car of any kind. Takes as much as a second off of a quarter mile run.

WickedSnake00 · January 29th, 2012, 08:35 PM

The stall speed is when the engine cannot effectively spin the pump any faster while the turbine is held stationary. A higher stall means the connection between pump and turbine is "looser" so you can spin the motor faster with the turbine still.

For launches and at the track, that means you can launch at a higher RPM, which means staying closer to peak torque/less bogging on launch. You can't beat it at the track. (Except for maybe turbos and a transbrake, but that's a discussion for another day.

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However at the stop lights it means you need to give it a little more gas to transfer the energy through the torque converter. The other consequence of a higher stall is that the higher degree of slip means more heat generated, so you need to make sure your cooling capability is adequate.

mustanginky · January 29th, 2012, 08:41 PM

yes it's a must IMO for an auto car if you take it to the track. if it's just a street car and you don't race i wouldn't bother. you'll also notice a decrease in mileage. but if you're racing it who cares lol.

02GT89 · January 29th, 2012, 08:49 PM

So how bad is it I love being on it and I daily drive my car I'm talking 20-30k miles a year so say a 3200 stall would be a bad idea?

I have 4.10s and already only get 170-200miles a tank of gas so I gave up on getting decent gas mileage out of my car reps for a clear answer

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momogt · January 29th, 2012, 09:36 PM

lets say i dont go with boost and stay n/a would a set of 4.30 gears be good performance for a auto that i would notice all the time instead of just from a stop light

bottled2v · January 29th, 2012, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by 02GT89

So how bad is it I love being on it and I daily drive my car I'm talking 20-30k miles a year so say a 3200 stall would be a bad idea?

I have 4.10s and already only get 170-200miles a tank of gas so I gave up on getting decent gas mileage out of my car reps for a clear answer

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not bad, i dd my car every day(even thru michigan winter) with a 3800 stall. with my old tune i averaged about 170 a tank, but i just got an sct economy tune and it's looking much better now. if you drive mostly highway you wont notice a drop in mpg's. it will feel completely different if you get a good size converter but it's not really a bad thing, just different. my car feels like i'm driving a car with a cvt trans from a stop light.

WickedSnake00 · January 29th, 2012, 09:44 PM

A stall won't hurt highway milage since you're in lockup then (4L) but it will harm light to light milage.

mrbigjeep · January 29th, 2012, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by 02GT89

So how bad is it I love being on it and I daily drive my car I'm talking 20-30k miles a year so say a 3200 stall would be a bad idea?

I have 4.10s and already only get 170-200miles a tank of gas so I gave up on getting decent gas mileage out of my car reps for a clear answer

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would be perfectly fine. my car doesn't get the best mileage but i have cams and still get better mpg than that.

the stall is def. worth it imo. even on the street. makes the car a lot of fun.

January 29th, 2012, 06:48 PM	#1
momogt Regular 2002 mustang gt Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: appomattox va. Posts: 293 iTrader: 0 reviews	is a stall really worth it like the title says is a stall worth it if your not going to the track what benefits will you have with it on the street im saving now for a turbo or supercharger but i want to know should i get a stall or just keep saving up for boost __________________ automatic 4.10,s cai 70mm tb plenum udp summit h-pipe hi-flow cats summit catback dynomax race bullets 4inch tips sniper tune tb spacer nitto drag 555r 315/35/17 chrome mach 1 17x9 wheels

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BaznastyDave MM Fanatic 2004 Mustang Join Date: May 2010 Location: NC Posts: 4,336 iTrader: 4 reviews	Yes a stall will help an auto greatly __________________ 305/333 WHP/WTQ with CMS Stage II cams 440/552 WHP/WTQ on Spray 7.86 @ 89.1mph, 1.61 60 foot N/A 7.20 @ 98.8MPH 1.55 60 foot on spray Stock Longblock with Cams

January 29th, 2012, 07:05 PM	#4
laoutlaw01 Regular Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 381 iTrader: 0 reviews	Will Help a ton. I've got a 3800 with 4.10's and if you have giod tires it helps a lot on the street. Slicks on the track and it takes off like a rocket. __________________

January 29th, 2012, 07:08 PM	#5
bottled2v Hardcore Enthusiast '00 gt, '95 gt, '83 lx 11.85@116 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Saginaw, mi Posts: 2,429 iTrader: 0 reviews	on the street it's not quite as important. it makes it way more fun from a stop light or whatever, but pretty much all the gain is off the line so if you dont race or "have fun" off the line on the street you wont get much benefit from it. however if you took it to the track it's totally worth it, I dropped .5 off my times with just a stall. __________________ '00 GT, hp 292's, full bolt ons, built/stalled auto, 4.10's, 150 shot-new times to come. '95 GT, 347, tko, etc-11.8@116-sold. WTT-my mildly built 4r70 for t56/tko.

January 29th, 2012, 08:34 PM	#6
Orange2V Regular 04 GT Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: SOMD Posts: 279 iTrader: 0 reviews	Stall is the single most effective mod on a auto car of any kind. Takes as much as a second off of a quarter mile run. __________________ Orange2V Build Thread

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WickedSnake00 MM's king of Neon's 404 - car not found 17.81@87 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Diesel Engine Capital of the World, Columbus, IN Posts: 7,374 iTrader: 0 reviews	The stall speed is when the engine cannot effectively spin the pump any faster while the turbine is held stationary. A higher stall means the connection between pump and turbine is "looser" so you can spin the motor faster with the turbine still. For launches and at the track, that means you can launch at a higher RPM, which means staying closer to peak torque/less bogging on launch. You can't beat it at the track. (Except for maybe turbos and a transbrake, but that's a discussion for another day. ) However at the stop lights it means you need to give it a little more gas to transfer the energy through the torque converter. The other consequence of a higher stall is that the higher degree of slip means more heat generated, so you need to make sure your cooling capability is adequate. __________________ Official Secondhand Snake Build Thread Here Looks Like a Cobra, Sounds Like a Cobra, Tastes Like a Cobra, Not a Cobra. For Sale: P71 Interceptor motor

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mustanginky MM Fanatic 2000 gt Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: La grange, KY Posts: 4,259 iTrader: 2 reviews	yes it's a must IMO for an auto car if you take it to the track. if it's just a street car and you don't race i wouldn't bother. you'll also notice a decrease in mileage. but if you're racing it who cares lol. __________________ Procharged 2000 5 Speed BAB GT, built motor, blower cams, speedy dyno tune 412 hp, 450 rw tq HARDCORE CREW BRIGHT ATLANTIC BLUE CREW #1 MEMBER

January 29th, 2012, 08:49 PM	#9
02GT89 eating 1 ricer at a time 2002 mustang GT not sure only ran on the streets so far! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 3,444 iTrader: 3 reviews	So how bad is it I love being on it and I daily drive my car I'm talking 20-30k miles a year so say a 3200 stall would be a bad idea? I have 4.10s and already only get 170-200miles a tank of gas so I gave up on getting decent gas mileage out of my car reps for a clear answer Sent from my Autoguide iPhone app __________________ Power in the hands of a few Buy your coffee from 02gt89 I guarantee better than starbucks click here

January 29th, 2012, 09:36 PM	#10
momogt Regular 2002 mustang gt Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: appomattox va. Posts: 293 iTrader: 0 reviews	lets say i dont go with boost and stay n/a would a set of 4.30 gears be good performance for a auto that i would notice all the time instead of just from a stop light __________________ automatic 4.10,s cai 70mm tb plenum udp summit h-pipe hi-flow cats summit catback dynomax race bullets 4inch tips sniper tune tb spacer nitto drag 555r 315/35/17 chrome mach 1 17x9 wheels

January 29th, 2012, 09:44 PM	#12
WickedSnake00 MM's king of Neon's 404 - car not found 17.81@87 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Diesel Engine Capital of the World, Columbus, IN Posts: 7,374 iTrader: 0 reviews	A stall won't hurt highway milage since you're in lockup then (4L) but it will harm light to light milage. __________________ Official Secondhand Snake Build Thread Here Looks Like a Cobra, Sounds Like a Cobra, Tastes Like a Cobra, Not a Cobra. For Sale: P71 Interceptor motor

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