CLUTCHES

USNavyMach1 · February 1st, 2012, 05:50 PM

Can anyone help me answer a question about clutches? I called up my performance shop back home in Michigan whom I usually go to and they are usually good at tech questions, however I called a transmission shop in Louisiana because I am stationed here and they stated that if I upgrade or change my OEM clutch to a aftermarket performance clutch (Mcleod Clutches) I could possibly later down the line ruin my differential or transmission. Is that true? If anyone can help me with this matter, I'd greatly appreciate it!

Derick

Cabikejumper · February 1st, 2012, 05:56 PM

No

F8L GT · February 1st, 2012, 06:07 PM

They are giving you a line of BS.

USNavyMach1 · February 1st, 2012, 06:20 PM

Ok, thanks! I was getting confused when that guy told me that it'll ruin my drive train and transmission.

Silver35th · February 1st, 2012, 06:38 PM

There's only a handful of places here that I'd actually trust (any shop, not just transmission). If you want to talk to people who know their stuff call Stang-Hi Performance or Total Performance Solutions.

dhicks7806 · February 1st, 2012, 06:50 PM

They probably mean that if you "over clutch" you induce too much shock into the rest of the drivetrain, which over time can cause damage. This is talking pretty hefty over clutching of course and assuming that one has STICKY tires, but there is SOME truth to what they are saying. However, a simple upgrade to a cobra clutch or a center force DF is not likely to cause any damage.

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USNavyMach1 · February 1st, 2012, 08:49 PM

baleger92,

I heard Stang-Hi is over priced is that true? Also, I was trying to find a place closer to the NOLA area vice Baton Rouge. You by chance know of any?

roosgt! · February 1st, 2012, 09:21 PM

If that is any true about having too much clutch I'm hooped.
I've been running dfx clutches in all my cars lol

Silver35th · February 1st, 2012, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by USNavyMach1

baleger92,

I heard Stang-Hi is over priced is that true? Also, I was trying to find a place closer to the NOLA area vice Baton Rouge. You by chance know of any?

I have also heard they are overpriced, but I think Stang-Hi and TPS are the only ones in the BR/Gonzales/Prairieville area. I don't know of any near NOLA. Wish I could help

USNavyMach1 · February 1st, 2012, 10:34 PM

I priced flywheels and clutches out and estimate with both it's around $800 do any of you guys know how much labor costs total?

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blownstang · February 1st, 2012, 11:45 PM

Labor for a clutch around me is $250-$300. Shop I use charges $250 for installing a clutch and resurfacing the flywheel.

blownstang · February 1st, 2012, 11:56 PM

This is a cobra clutch from UPR. Offer $10-$20 less and they will accept the offer. 01-04 MUSTANG VALEO FMS KING COBRA CLUTCH KIT 11" | eBay

Here is Valeo aluminim clutch same company that makes the Cobra clutch: Valeo Aluminum Flywheel (8-Bolt Pattern): 1996-04 4.6L Ford Mustang Cobra/SVT | eBay You'll need a 6 bolt one, but couldn't find it at the moment.

Here is a Spec Aluminum Flywheel: Spec Aluminum Flywheel 6 Bolt 2001-2004 Ford Mustang GT | eBay

Looks like you can get a good clutch and aluminum flywheel for $600.

USNavyMach1 · February 2nd, 2012, 10:13 AM

What I don't get is that there is a 6 and 8 bolt pattern. But which one is really for the Mach 1? Because its got a GT body, but it has a Cobra motor without the supercharger.

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andrewskaggs · February 2nd, 2012, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by USNavyMach1

What I don't get is that there is a 6 and 8 bolt pattern. But which one is really for the Mach 1? Because its got a GT body, but it has a Cobra motor without the supercharger.

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I believe that all Mach 1s with 5-speeds had 8 bolt cranks and autos had 6-bolt cranks.

dhicks7806 · February 2nd, 2012, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by andrewskaggs

I believe that all Mach 1s with 5-speeds had 8 bolt cranks and autos had 6-bolt cranks.

This is correct- 5spd machs have a forged crank (8 bolt) and autos have a cast crank (6 bolt)

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USNavyMach1 · February 2nd, 2012, 11:55 AM

Ok, I got confused when it came to bolt patterns. I surely didn't want to buy the wrong one and send it back and wait for the right one to come in. My performance shop uses McLeod Clutch kits anyone of you have heard of it or know how well it is? Seeing the fact that Cobra clutches are hard to come by?

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03_StangGuy · February 2nd, 2012, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by dhicks7806

They probably mean that if you "over clutch" you induce too much shock into the rest of the drivetrain, which over time can cause damage. This is talking pretty hefty over clutching of course and assuming that one has STICKY tires, but there is SOME truth to what they are saying. However, a simple upgrade to a cobra clutch or a center force DF is not likely to cause any damage.

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This, but it also matters how you drive. The clutch itself wont break anything, but it will allow you to allow more forces through the drivetrain which can possibly cause damage.

blownstang · February 2nd, 2012, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by USNavyMach1

Ok, I got confused when it came to bolt patterns. I surely didn't want to buy the wrong one and send it back and wait for the right one to come in. My performance shop uses McLeod Clutch kits anyone of you have heard of it or know how well it is? Seeing the fact that Cobra clutches are hard to come by?

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Cobra clutches are not hard to come by. I posted an ebay link above to the one UPR carries. Mcleod are good clutches, but i believe they are a bit more than a cobra clutch. If you are not looking for more than 500rwhp the cobra clutch will be perfect.

USNavyMach1 · February 2nd, 2012, 02:18 PM

Well, I plan to make 500-600bhp in the near future, but a little bit at a time. I saw the cobra clutch and it is very reasonably priced.

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USNavyMach1 · February 2nd, 2012, 10:04 PM

Picking out the McLeod Super Street Pro Clutch (M-75204) and the McLeod Steel 8 Bolt Flywheel (M-463408) for the Mach!

February 1st, 2012, 05:50 PM	#1
USNavyMach1 MACH THIS! 2004 Mustang Mach 1 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 79 iTrader: 0 reviews	CLUTCHES Can anyone help me answer a question about clutches? I called up my performance shop back home in Michigan whom I usually go to and they are usually good at tech questions, however I called a transmission shop in Louisiana because I am stationed here and they stated that if I upgrade or change my OEM clutch to a aftermarket performance clutch (Mcleod Clutches) I could possibly later down the line ruin my differential or transmission. Is that true? If anyone can help me with this matter, I'd greatly appreciate it! Derick

February 1st, 2012, 06:07 PM	#3
F8L GT !FACEPLATED! 2002 Mustang GT 7.84 @ 86.01 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Upper Michigan Posts: 12,917 iTrader: 13 reviews	They are giving you a line of BS. __________________ MM Bracket Racing Crew Co-Founder ~Its a Drag Car, Not a Show Car~ LINK-->Custom Race Transmission Build<--LINK

February 1st, 2012, 06:38 PM	#5
Silver35th Enthusiast '99 GT 35th Anniversary 14.266 @ 103.41 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 796 iTrader: 0 reviews	There's only a handful of places here that I'd actually trust (any shop, not just transmission). If you want to talk to people who know their stuff call Stang-Hi Performance or Total Performance Solutions. __________________ SMR #2043

February 1st, 2012, 06:50 PM	#6
dhicks7806 Regular 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Palmerton PA Posts: 252 iTrader: 0 reviews	They probably mean that if you "over clutch" you induce too much shock into the rest of the drivetrain, which over time can cause damage. This is talking pretty hefty over clutching of course and assuming that one has STICKY tires, but there is SOME truth to what they are saying. However, a simple upgrade to a cobra clutch or a center force DF is not likely to cause any damage. Sent from my Autoguide iPhone app __________________ '03 GT w/BBK CAI, MAC Pro chamber, Borla Stingers, MGW Orange, SCT X3, and some make it sexy mods '89 GT 5.0 w/full bolt ons-SOLD '04 STi w/ A'pexi N1 catback and accessport-SOLD '00 Audi A6 2.7t stock - DD/Wifey's whip

February 1st, 2012, 09:21 PM	#8
roosgt! MM Official Sammich Maker 1999 mustang gt n/a Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 4,119 iTrader: 3 reviews	If that is any true about having too much clutch I'm hooped. I've been running dfx clutches in all my cars lol __________________ KASE Racing 72 Chevell 500hp 74 Comet 500+hp and spray 99 Mustang GT bolt on's and 93 tune 85 Notch 520ci BBF

February 1st, 2012, 06:20 PM	#4
USNavyMach1 MACH THIS! 2004 Mustang Mach 1 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 79 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ok, thanks! I was getting confused when that guy told me that it'll ruin my drive train and transmission.

February 1st, 2012, 08:49 PM	#7
USNavyMach1 MACH THIS! 2004 Mustang Mach 1 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 79 iTrader: 0 reviews	baleger92, I heard Stang-Hi is over priced is that true? Also, I was trying to find a place closer to the NOLA area vice Baton Rouge. You by chance know of any?

February 1st, 2012, 10:34 PM	#10
USNavyMach1 MACH THIS! 2004 Mustang Mach 1 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 79 iTrader: 0 reviews	I priced flywheels and clutches out and estimate with both it's around $800 do any of you guys know how much labor costs total? Sent from my Autoguide iPhone app __________________ BBK LONG TUBE HEADERS BBK O/R X-PIPE BBK TWIN 62mm THROTTLE BODY STEEDA UNDER DRIVE PULLEYS SLP LOUD MOUTH II SCT CHIP TUNED BY ALTERNATIVE AUTO by Lidio SCT X3 PROGRAMMED BY BAMA TUNING JLT COLD AIR INTAKE PRO 5.0 SHORT THROW SHIFTER

February 1st, 2012, 11:45 PM	#11
blownstang Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,551 iTrader: 1 reviews	Labor for a clutch around me is $250-$300. Shop I use charges $250 for installing a clutch and resurfacing the flywheel. __________________ 2003 DSG Mustang GT 5spd Full Bolt On's, Suspension, Built Rear, V1 S N/A: 266/300, 3,550lbs, 13.44 @ 100.5 1.77 60' Non-intercooled: 356/371, 3,575lbs, 12.81 @ 110.47 1.86 60' Intercooled: 362/370

February 1st, 2012, 11:56 PM	#12
blownstang Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,551 iTrader: 1 reviews	This is a cobra clutch from UPR. Offer $10-$20 less and they will accept the offer. 01-04 MUSTANG VALEO FMS KING COBRA CLUTCH KIT 11" \| eBay Here is Valeo aluminim clutch same company that makes the Cobra clutch: Valeo Aluminum Flywheel (8-Bolt Pattern): 1996-04 4.6L Ford Mustang Cobra/SVT \| eBay You'll need a 6 bolt one, but couldn't find it at the moment. Here is a Spec Aluminum Flywheel: Spec Aluminum Flywheel 6 Bolt 2001-2004 Ford Mustang GT \| eBay Looks like you can get a good clutch and aluminum flywheel for $600. __________________ 2003 DSG Mustang GT 5spd Full Bolt On's, Suspension, Built Rear, V1 S N/A: 266/300, 3,550lbs, 13.44 @ 100.5 1.77 60' Non-intercooled: 356/371, 3,575lbs, 12.81 @ 110.47 1.86 60' Intercooled: 362/370

February 2nd, 2012, 10:13 AM	#13
USNavyMach1 MACH THIS! 2004 Mustang Mach 1 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 79 iTrader: 0 reviews	What I don't get is that there is a 6 and 8 bolt pattern. But which one is really for the Mach 1? Because its got a GT body, but it has a Cobra motor without the supercharger. Sent from my Autoguide iPhone app __________________ BBK LONG TUBE HEADERS BBK O/R X-PIPE BBK TWIN 62mm THROTTLE BODY STEEDA UNDER DRIVE PULLEYS SLP LOUD MOUTH II SCT CHIP TUNED BY ALTERNATIVE AUTO by Lidio SCT X3 PROGRAMMED BY BAMA TUNING JLT COLD AIR INTAKE PRO 5.0 SHORT THROW SHIFTER

February 2nd, 2012, 11:55 AM	#16
USNavyMach1 MACH THIS! 2004 Mustang Mach 1 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 79 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ok, I got confused when it came to bolt patterns. I surely didn't want to buy the wrong one and send it back and wait for the right one to come in. My performance shop uses McLeod Clutch kits anyone of you have heard of it or know how well it is? Seeing the fact that Cobra clutches are hard to come by? Sent from my Autoguide iPhone app __________________ BBK LONG TUBE HEADERS BBK O/R X-PIPE BBK TWIN 62mm THROTTLE BODY STEEDA UNDER DRIVE PULLEYS SLP LOUD MOUTH II SCT CHIP TUNED BY ALTERNATIVE AUTO by Lidio SCT X3 PROGRAMMED BY BAMA TUNING JLT COLD AIR INTAKE PRO 5.0 SHORT THROW SHIFTER

February 2nd, 2012, 02:18 PM	#19
USNavyMach1 MACH THIS! 2004 Mustang Mach 1 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 79 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well, I plan to make 500-600bhp in the near future, but a little bit at a time. I saw the cobra clutch and it is very reasonably priced. Sent from my Autoguide iPhone app __________________ BBK LONG TUBE HEADERS BBK O/R X-PIPE BBK TWIN 62mm THROTTLE BODY STEEDA UNDER DRIVE PULLEYS SLP LOUD MOUTH II SCT CHIP TUNED BY ALTERNATIVE AUTO by Lidio SCT X3 PROGRAMMED BY BAMA TUNING JLT COLD AIR INTAKE PRO 5.0 SHORT THROW SHIFTER

February 2nd, 2012, 10:04 PM	#20
USNavyMach1 MACH THIS! 2004 Mustang Mach 1 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 79 iTrader: 0 reviews	Picking out the McLeod Super Street Pro Clutch (M-75204) and the McLeod Steel 8 Bolt Flywheel (M-463408) for the Mach!

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