[twinmill]

Well Im beyond excited now, I woke up yesterday and realized my tax return had been deposited in my bank Act.

First thing I did was visit american muscle's website and order a dual guage pod and a boost guage.

Called up procharger afterwards and ordered the oil, hardware kit, and off set spacer

I'm either going to have RET or IZZY's Performance tune the car.

The set up is
Going to be the following

P-1sc
3 core intercooler - New style
svt focus pump
KB 40 amp Boost-a-pump
42lb injectors.
3.6 pully
Goodyear gator back 108" belt.


I'm wondering what numbers I should expect and be happy with? The car is automatic and has no other mods w/ the exception of LCA's, Springs, Shocks and weld-ins.

I am running the stock proflow valve. Will it be ok to wait until march to pick up a vortech mini race valve or is that something I really should order before the tune gets done?

I currently have 275 hancock v12s on the back, do you guys believe I should buy a drag radial and run those instead? The v12's are fairly new and have 70% tread left

I will have around 500$ left after everything so im trying to figure out another good supporting mod

[I8ACMRO]

Might wanna get a diff fuel pump, as some guys seem to max them out. What's your exhaust like? May wanna open it up. Thought of doing a power pipe? Also, don't forget your TR6 or similar plugs.

[twinmill]

Imma run buy autozone and pick up a colder plug at the beginning of the week.

Kit came with what I beleive is a power pipe, hooks up the the front the charger and extends into the fender well with a filter?

Do you still think it will max out with the boost a pump? Thats one of the reasons i bought the pump -.-. What numbers should I expect? I was thinking 370-380 rwhp?

[I8ACMRO]

That seems a little low. I'd guess a p1sc with what you have should net you over 400 rwhp. Guys seem to be nutting over the division x pump, or get a GT Supercar pump. If you want more boost though, I'd suggest upping your fuel system now just so it's done.

[Rich11]

You'll be fine with the fuel set-up.

[blownstang]

Originally Posted by twinmill Imma run buy autozone and pick up a colder plug at the beginning of the week. Kit came with what I beleive is a power pipe, hooks up the the front the charger and extends into the fender well with a filter? Do you still think it will max out with the boost a pump? Thats one of the reasons i bought the pump -.-. What numbers should I expect? I was thinking 370-380 rwhp?

Yes that is a powerpipe. Your fuel pump and bap is fine. That combo is usually good for high 400rwhp. You should expect 350rwhp.

[blownstang]

Originally Posted by I8ACMRO That seems a little low. I'd guess a p1sc with what you have should net you over 400 rwhp.

Not a chance through the auto and the P1SC. 350-360rwhp is more realistic. Guys with full bolt ons, a 5spd, and 9psi on a P1SC usually put down in the range of 370-390rwhp.

[zinsavage123]

Originally Posted by blownstang Not a chance through the auto and the P1SC. 360rwhp is more realistic. Guys with full bolt ons, and 5spd, and 9psi on a P1SC usually put down in the range of 370-390rwhp.

I agree blownstang,and not to start a thread war but I always here the procharger dont make power like a vortech? cause im an auto too and I seem to be making just as much if not a tad more power than some manuals here? and im on very conservative timing 12*? i run a v-3 si trim though so who knows?

[blownstang]

Originally Posted by twinmill I am running the stock proflow valve. Will it be ok to wait until march to pick up a vortech mini race valve or is that something I really should order before the tune gets done? I currently have 275 hancock v12s on the back, do you guys believe I should buy a drag radial and run those instead? The v12's are fairly new and have 70% tread left I will have around 500$ left after everything so im trying to figure out another good supporting mod

Proflow should be fine. If you experience any compressor surge you can upgrade. You do not need a drag radial for a stock auto that has stock gears and a centri blower.

[blownstang]

Originally Posted by zinsavage123 I agree blownstang,and not to start a thread war but I always here the procharger dont make power like a vortech? cause im an auto too and I seem to be making just as much if not a tad more than some manuals here? and im on very conservative timing 12*? i run a v-3 si trim though so who knows?

Correct. Most non-intercooled Vortech S trim cars will put down similar power as intercooled P1SC cars. With the intercooler you'll be making even more.

[Shaun03GT]

Yeah your fuel setup is good. The proflow should be fine. Worst case, upgrade it later. Dont need a re-tune. What MAF are you doing?

For power, every car is different. Expect anywhere from 340rwhp to 390rwhp. Depends on type of dyno, air, car itself etc....

[Eagle2000GT]

Zinc, aren't you running 12 psi with that 12 degrees of timing and making 366 rwhp? And if your non-intercooled Vortech was running the same IATs as an intercooled ProCharger your tuner would not have had to pull so much timing. The OP will be around 10 psi. Maybe a tad more with the power pipe.

Twinmill, your final results depend upon a lot of things such as supporting mods, tune and correction factor. I'm running 9 psi with a fairly conservative tune. (mods listed in garage).That puts my car around 396 rwhp STD or 383 SAE. If I were running 10 psi it would be at or over 400 (depending upon correction factor). My guess is that you will be around 370-380 rwhp through an auto. (400 / .85 x .80 = 376).

[twinmill]

Ya I was guessing 380 because of the smaller pully and I had read somewhere the gator belts produce a little bit higher boost due to less belt slipage. Once again I dont know this to be true.

So would headers be more beneficial then nitto555r's ? I ask because I wil be doing runs from a dig and messing around at stoplights ... from time to time.

[Shaun03GT]

Youll see about 10psi with that setup.

Go with 555Rs. Headers are cool, but spinning sucks. Its cute at first because your roasting the tires in 2nd gear, but after a couple days it gets old.

[CobraStang161]

Originally Posted by Shaun03GT Youll see about 10psi with that setup. Go with 555Rs. Headers are cool, but spinning sucks. Its cute at first because your roasting the tires in 2nd gear, but after a couple days it gets old.

yea...roasting tires at 80mph isnt fun lol.

[Nitmare67]

The focus pump and a bap will work just fine for now. The SVT pump will take you to 450rwhp on a stock motor with nothing but boost. Sometimes a little higher on a modded motor with less boost. If you want to get all of it you can out of it PM and I'll give you a list of mods to do when you install the pump that will help.

[blownstang]

Originally Posted by twinmill I had read somewhere the gator belts produce a little bit higher boost due to less belt slipage. Once again I dont know this to be true.

I highly doubt that. Most run Gates or Dayco belts. Not too many are a fan of Gatorback belts. One of the main reasons is because the cross hatch design of the Gatorback actually causes belt slip.

Originally Posted by twinmill So would headers be more beneficial then nitto555r's ? I ask because I wil be doing runs from a dig and messing around at stoplights ... from time to time.

In this case you want to be able to put the power to the ground so yes drag radials would be more beneficial, but with stock gearing you won't really be getting much wheel spin. The blower won't be making boost till you get over 3k rpm so you have some time to get moving before the power starts kicking in. See how it feels on your current tires and then get drag radials if you feel they are needed.

[zinsavage123]

Originally Posted by Eagle2000GT Zinc, aren't you running 12 psi with that 12 degrees of timing and making 366 rwhp? And if your non-intercooled Vortech was running the same IATs as an intercooled ProCharger your tuner would not have had to pull so much timing. The OP will be around 10 psi. Maybe a tad more with the power pipe. Twinmill, your final results depend upon a lot of things such as supporting mods, tune and correction factor. I'm running 9 psi with a fairly conservative tune. (mods listed in garage).That puts my car around 396 rwhp STD or 383 SAE. If I were running 10 psi it would be at or over 400 (depending upon correction factor). My guess is that you will be around 370-380 rwhp through an auto. (400 / .85 x .80 = 376).

yes well 11.8psi to be exact. I am intercooling in a couple weeks. I f I was intercooled on that much boost and had more timing id be over 400whp for sure wouldnt I?

[blownstang]

Originally Posted by zinsavage123 yes well 11.8psi to be exact. I am intercooling in a couple weeks. I f I was intercooled on that much boost and had more timing id be over 400whp for sure wouldnt I?

If you kept the boost at 12psi intercooled and bumped the timing to 15* you'd definitely be over 400rwhp. Probably ~ 415rwhp.

[momogt]

Originally Posted by twinmill Well Im beyond excited now, I woke up yesterday and realized my tax return had been deposited in my bank Act. First thing I did was visit american muscle's website and order a dual guage pod and a boost guage. Called up procharger afterwards and ordered the oil, hardware kit, and off set spacer I'm either going to have RET or IZZY's Performance tune the car. The set up is Going to be the following P-1sc 3 core intercooler - New style svt focus pump KB 40 amp Boost-a-pump 42lb injectors. 3.6 pully Goodyear gator back 108" belt. I'm wondering what numbers I should expect and be happy with? The car is automatic and has no other mods w/ the exception of LCA's, Springs, Shocks and weld-ins. I am running the stock proflow valve. Will it be ok to wait until march to pick up a vortech mini race valve or is that something I really should order before the tune gets done? I currently have 275 hancock v12s on the back, do you guys believe I should buy a drag radial and run those instead? The v12's are fairly new and have 70% tread left I will have around 500$ left after everything so im trying to figure out another good supporting mod

thats good man i got my tax return deposited yesterday also i ordered some goodies to for my auto shift kit,tranny cooler,78mm tb/plenum but tomarrow im calling up revmax to order a stall dont know what size im going with i will see what he recommends but good luck on your build im going to stay n/a myself and get a good head and cam setup 300rwhp is good for me im not going to the track its my every now and then weekend ride