i think i got screwed on this motor

cschoening09 · February 5th, 2012, 02:41 PM

i bought a 90K mile motor off ebay. was said to be "tested, inspected and runs very good." i put a new timing chain and guides in it and when i got it installed and im pretty sure the damn think has a rod knock. i thought it was a dent in the oil pan hitting rods when i installed it. but the shape of oil pan turns out to be normal. how should i go about contacting the seller and/or ebay. id like to keep the engine and do an underhaul on it. rod and mains. total of about $150 bucks in parts. rod bearings and bolts, main bearing and bolts, and oil pan gasket.

Cabikejumper · February 5th, 2012, 03:05 PM

Was there warranty on it? Contact them and PayPal. Go from there. May be worth it to just throw 150 at it and replace it. Saved some time. But in other hand got screwed.

bandity2k00 · February 5th, 2012, 03:09 PM

Maybe its something with the valve train components that you changed?? Make sure its in the bottom end..if so good luck cause your going to have hell probaly..they pull those motors from wrecked cars and sell them on ebay and they usually cant check them cause the car is screwed up or no keys or bad battery and such and they just assume it ran fine since it was on the road when it got in a wreck...which is usually correct but some people drive with rod knocks lol

Cabikejumper · February 5th, 2012, 03:27 PM

^^
My friend bought a motor for his camaro. Dropped it in and had a knock. Drove it for a week until he blew it. On purpose since it had a warranty. Guy came and picked it up and have cash refund.

95mustangGT/SVT · February 5th, 2012, 03:30 PM

This blows a lot! I have a motor known to be questionable you can buy cheap!

SSG Pate · February 5th, 2012, 04:00 PM

Pay Pal will force them to give your money back!! contact seller and see what they say if they wont work with you tell them to suck it, and call paypal. I bought something from a member on here a few months ago I paid, then nothing ever showed up. three weeks later when thier bank account was short cause paypal took the money back they got the part to me in a hurry. Always use pay pal simply for the protection.

95mustangGT/SVT · February 5th, 2012, 04:07 PM

^+1 Just never send money as a gift! Pay the taxes and cover your ass.

cschoening09 · February 5th, 2012, 04:57 PM

I used PayPal at least lol.

carney714 · February 5th, 2012, 05:02 PM

Contact the seller and maybe workout a deal. Since he did say it worked and ran perfect he must back that up. Since it isnt working fine its false advertisement and paypal will work with you for a refund if you two cant work out a deal.

I worked for my cousin's Autoparts business and ran his ebay account. Paypal always favors the buyer.

bandity2k00 · February 5th, 2012, 05:06 PM

Paypal onlu covers that the item got there. They say it everytime..i got something that was scratched all up and it was supoosed to be new. They said they only make sure the item gets to you and if seller provides tracking then they always win. They said the condition and stuff is not in there control..call em up and ask

mustanginky · February 5th, 2012, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by bandity2k00

Paypal onlu covers that the item got there. They say it everytime..i got something that was scratched all up and it was supoosed to be new. They said they only make sure the item gets to you and if seller provides tracking then they always win. They said the condition and stuff is not in there control..call em up and ask

not necessarily true, i had a set of pistons that i bought on ebay that were SCREWED up badly that were supposed to be like new diamond's .020 over. i ended up getting a full refund.

paypal normally requires you to ship it back to them though, which with an engine would SUCK, and i believe you are responsible for that. call the seller and try to work it out is my suggestion.

cschoening09 · February 5th, 2012, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by mustanginky

not necessarily true, i had a set of pistons that i bought on ebay that were SCREWED up badly that were supposed to be like new diamond's .020 over. i ended up getting a full refund.

paypal normally requires you to ship it back to them though, which with an engine would SUCK, and i believe you are responsible for that. call the seller and try to work it out is my suggestion.

You had to return them right?

cschoening09 · February 5th, 2012, 06:44 PM

I wanna work out a deal with the guy, I wanna keep the motor, I only paid 1000 for it complete, since it will need rod bearings, I'd be happy with getting about 300 back to cover parts and labor pulling the engine back and and going back in. I'd say that's very fair on his end.

N20zuki · February 5th, 2012, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by cschoening09

I wanna work out a deal with the guy, I wanna keep the motor, I only paid 1000 for it complete, since it will need rod bearings, I'd be happy with getting about 300 back to cover parts and labor pulling the engine back and and going back in. I'd say that's very fair on his end.

Yea spitball repairing is easy... But what if the crank is grooved and then it needs to be cut .010.... What if its a hard spun bearing and the bearings have stacked on each other and screwed the big end on the rods and then you need reconditioned rods... Then theres the fact that he could of known and all those little chunks and bearing material is circulating through the motor tearing up everything or clogging the oil pump pick up starving the engine of oil...

I would try to full refund it, or get more then a 1/4 of the selling price back.

cschoening09 · February 5th, 2012, 08:12 PM

and keep the motor? or will i have to return it. shipping willl screw me. thats why i wann keep it

cschoening09 · February 5th, 2012, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by 95mustangGT/SVT

This blows a lot! I have a motor known to be questionable you can buy cheap!

how cheap?

CobraStang161 · February 5th, 2012, 09:07 PM

Sorry but once you start changing things they will say it was something you did.

95mustangGT/SVT · February 5th, 2012, 09:23 PM

If you send the entire motor back I have one that runs without a knock I am offering to members on here. If nobody wants it I will sell it to the junkyard for $400. So it's really cheap. It definately will at least need a lifter and I believe an oil pump. If you don't want it I really don't care because I planned on getting $400.

cschoening09 · February 5th, 2012, 09:51 PM

How many miles

JustRight · February 5th, 2012, 10:24 PM

Going into the motor most likely voided the warranty. Kind of curious why the timing chain was messed with----90k isn't enough to wear one out normally.

Put a video clip on here with the engine running. Someone may be able to identify the noise.

February 5th, 2012, 02:41 PM	#1
cschoening09 Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT 9.30 @ 77mph-1/8th mile 2.2 60' Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Council Bluffs, IA Posts: 1,704 iTrader: 3 reviews	i think i got screwed on this motor i bought a 90K mile motor off ebay. was said to be "tested, inspected and runs very good." i put a new timing chain and guides in it and when i got it installed and im pretty sure the damn think has a rod knock. i thought it was a dent in the oil pan hitting rods when i installed it. but the shape of oil pan turns out to be normal. how should i go about contacting the seller and/or ebay. id like to keep the engine and do an underhaul on it. rod and mains. total of about $150 bucks in parts. rod bearings and bolts, main bearing and bolts, and oil pan gasket. __________________ 01 GT. 5spd , 03-04 cobra clutch, on its 2nd 4.6l motor2nd tr3650 too,JLT CAI,UPR o/r x, magnapack catback, predator tuned, H&R ss 10.5" bullitts w/ nt555r DR's

February 5th, 2012, 03:09 PM	#3
bandity2k00 Baker Jr. 2002 Mustang GT Coming after build!! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Gambrills,MD Posts: 2,913 iTrader: 3 reviews	Maybe its something with the valve train components that you changed?? Make sure its in the bottom end..if so good luck cause your going to have hell probaly..they pull those motors from wrecked cars and sell them on ebay and they usually cant check them cause the car is screwed up or no keys or bad battery and such and they just assume it ran fine since it was on the road when it got in a wreck...which is usually correct but some people drive with rod knocks lol __________________ MMR-Modular Mustang Racing Phils Machining-For your ABS Module Delete Manifold! American Muscle-www.Americanmuscle.com HorsePower By Hermonn-TUNER THANKS TO ALL SPONSORS,READY FOR THIS 2012 RACING SEASON!

February 5th, 2012, 04:00 PM	#6
SSG Pate Premium Member 00 Mustang GT Vert/88 5.0 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,766 iTrader: 3 reviews	Pay Pal will force them to give your money back!! contact seller and see what they say if they wont work with you tell them to suck it, and call paypal. I bought something from a member on here a few months ago I paid, then nothing ever showed up. three weeks later when thier bank account was short cause paypal took the money back they got the part to me in a hurry. Always use pay pal simply for the protection. __________________ Proud Iraq and Afghanistan War veteran Powered By MMR 4.75L Stroker, Tuned at Kurgan Motorsports

February 5th, 2012, 04:57 PM	#8
cschoening09 Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT 9.30 @ 77mph-1/8th mile 2.2 60' Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Council Bluffs, IA Posts: 1,704 iTrader: 3 reviews	I used PayPal at least lol. __________________ 01 GT. 5spd , 03-04 cobra clutch, on its 2nd 4.6l motor2nd tr3650 too,JLT CAI,UPR o/r x, magnapack catback, predator tuned, H&R ss 10.5" bullitts w/ nt555r DR's

February 5th, 2012, 05:06 PM	#10
bandity2k00 Baker Jr. 2002 Mustang GT Coming after build!! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Gambrills,MD Posts: 2,913 iTrader: 3 reviews	Paypal onlu covers that the item got there. They say it everytime..i got something that was scratched all up and it was supoosed to be new. They said they only make sure the item gets to you and if seller provides tracking then they always win. They said the condition and stuff is not in there control..call em up and ask __________________ MMR-Modular Mustang Racing Phils Machining-For your ABS Module Delete Manifold! American Muscle-www.Americanmuscle.com HorsePower By Hermonn-TUNER THANKS TO ALL SPONSORS,READY FOR THIS 2012 RACING SEASON!

February 5th, 2012, 03:30 PM	#5
95mustangGT/SVT Enthusiast 2001 Gt Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: PA Posts: 915 iTrader: 0 reviews	This blows a lot! I have a motor known to be questionable you can buy cheap!

February 5th, 2012, 04:07 PM	#7
95mustangGT/SVT Enthusiast 2001 Gt Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: PA Posts: 915 iTrader: 0 reviews	^+1 Just never send money as a gift! Pay the taxes and cover your ass.

February 5th, 2012, 05:02 PM	#9
carney714 Regular Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 223 iTrader: 0 reviews	Contact the seller and maybe workout a deal. Since he did say it worked and ran perfect he must back that up. Since it isnt working fine its false advertisement and paypal will work with you for a refund if you two cant work out a deal. I worked for my cousin's Autoparts business and ran his ebay account. Paypal always favors the buyer.

February 5th, 2012, 06:44 PM	#13
cschoening09 Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT 9.30 @ 77mph-1/8th mile 2.2 60' Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Council Bluffs, IA Posts: 1,704 iTrader: 3 reviews	I wanna work out a deal with the guy, I wanna keep the motor, I only paid 1000 for it complete, since it will need rod bearings, I'd be happy with getting about 300 back to cover parts and labor pulling the engine back and and going back in. I'd say that's very fair on his end. __________________ 01 GT. 5spd , 03-04 cobra clutch, on its 2nd 4.6l motor2nd tr3650 too,JLT CAI,UPR o/r x, magnapack catback, predator tuned, H&R ss 10.5" bullitts w/ nt555r DR's

February 5th, 2012, 08:12 PM	#15
cschoening09 Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT 9.30 @ 77mph-1/8th mile 2.2 60' Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Council Bluffs, IA Posts: 1,704 iTrader: 3 reviews	and keep the motor? or will i have to return it. shipping willl screw me. thats why i wann keep it __________________ 01 GT. 5spd , 03-04 cobra clutch, on its 2nd 4.6l motor2nd tr3650 too,JLT CAI,UPR o/r x, magnapack catback, predator tuned, H&R ss 10.5" bullitts w/ nt555r DR's

February 5th, 2012, 09:07 PM	#17
CobraStang161 Hardcore Enthusiast 4V twin turbo 2000 GT I live my life a quarter mile at a time xD Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 1,739 iTrader: 0 reviews	Sorry but once you start changing things they will say it was something you did. __________________ 2000 Mustang GT Built 4V Motor with Sullivan Single Plane Intake Custom 66MM BB TT kit Borla XR-1 Dumped before rear Moser built 9" Rear 35 spline WaveTrac Diff with 3.75s 35 spline Moser axles 14PT roll cage and minitubbed

February 5th, 2012, 09:23 PM	#18
95mustangGT/SVT Enthusiast 2001 Gt Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: PA Posts: 915 iTrader: 0 reviews	If you send the entire motor back I have one that runs without a knock I am offering to members on here. If nobody wants it I will sell it to the junkyard for $400. So it's really cheap. It definately will at least need a lifter and I believe an oil pump. If you don't want it I really don't care because I planned on getting $400.

February 5th, 2012, 09:51 PM	#19
cschoening09 Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT 9.30 @ 77mph-1/8th mile 2.2 60' Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Council Bluffs, IA Posts: 1,704 iTrader: 3 reviews	How many miles __________________ 01 GT. 5spd , 03-04 cobra clutch, on its 2nd 4.6l motor2nd tr3650 too,JLT CAI,UPR o/r x, magnapack catback, predator tuned, H&R ss 10.5" bullitts w/ nt555r DR's

February 5th, 2012, 10:24 PM	#20
JustRight Premium Member 01 GT Conv Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NW Fl Posts: 169 iTrader: 0 reviews	Going into the motor most likely voided the warranty. Kind of curious why the timing chain was messed with----90k isn't enough to wear one out normally. Put a video clip on here with the engine running. Someone may be able to identify the noise. __________________ Official member of the anti ethanol-laced gas crusade.

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